A-10C splashes Mig 29 on 104th Phoenix server

[Low Blow]

I was up in a warthog with some buddies. There we were just enjoying the sunshine and removing some Russian tanks from service when lo and behold a red Mig 29 decides he too wants to enjoy the sunshine and kill one or all of us! I am sure he got to enjoy the sunshine from underneath his parachute..:thumbup:

 

 

Enjoy guys

 

Low Blow

[Ultra]

Good kill! Very cool. :thumbup:

[javelina1]

Nice! :thumbup:

[Low Blow]

Cheers guys! :thumbup:

[pepin1234]

Good job.

 

Well the 29 guy maybe shot the R-77 after some change by ED this missile have become a short range missile, I mean that's why you can see the 29 in a WVR combat easily. Inside this Sim this missile is a fake and is obviously downgraded by ED maybe for a marketing proposition. So is obvious this Sim have become a commercial game after the last changes.

 

Right now if you have a good skil A-A with your A-10 into DCS you can beat a Mig-29 with an aim-9. This is ridiculous and unreal.

 

I think ED want this situation for some commercial goals.

Edited April 29, 2015 by pepin1234

[Low Blow]

Yeah Pepin I know what you mean. However, if a mig 29 throws himself amongst 4 A-10Cs like a cat among the pigeons like that he can't look everywhere at once, I don't care how good he is. At some point he is going to get a heater up his tail pipes.

[Exorcet]

I almost did the same, I found myself under a MiG a while ago while heading out to the target. I went vertical and nearly got the AIM-9 off, but somehow I was spotted and took an R-73. The mission must have had AWACS.

 

As for MiG vs A-10, there is nothing wrong with the MiG being shot down. Can't watch the video now, but the plane and missile can't be blamed for a pilot mistake. Missiles need tweaking, but the R-77 is far from useless or unfairly limited. In fact, pitting AI against each other, Russian air power usually wins.

 

I myself keep a good distance from Su-25's when in the F-15, I don't want to deal with the R-73.

[KLR Rico]

lol @ pepin

 

Maybe you're this MiG-29 driver? :D

[HiJack]

As for MiG vs A-10, there is nothing wrong with the MiG being shot down. Can't watch the video now, but the plane and missile can't be blamed for a pilot mistake. Missiles need tweaking, but the R-77 is far from useless or unfairly limited. In fact, pitting AI against each other, Russian air power usually wins.

 

I myself keep a good distance from Su-25's when in the F-15, I don't want to deal with the R-73.

Agree, I have had some bad encounters with both A-10C and Su-25T as well. If you come to close or even overshoot you are in danger but the A-10's and Su-25's don't have any IFF so they to are taking a chance when launching missiles, they need to know it's enemy first.

[pepin1234]

lol @ pepin

 

Maybe you're this MiG-29 driver? :D

 

Have happen to me before, but not I am not this one.

 

I never go close to the A-10 since the R-77 suck. But I have my own tactic and are pretty effective.

[Toxic]

Have happen to me before, but not I am not this one.

 

I never go close to the A-10 since the R-77 suck. But I have my own tactic and are pretty effective.

 

Give a rest about the R-77 mate. I find most fighters that get near a TA to shoot down some ground pounders usually get taken out by a Su-25 or A-10 since the ground attack aircraft can easily spot out the gent going mach 1 in an environment where almost everyone is doing 250KIAS. :pilotfly:

 

great video Low Blow!

[pepin1234]

Agree, I have had some bad encounters with both A-10C and Su-25T as well. If you come to close or even overshoot you are in danger but the A-10's and Su-25's don't have any IFF so they to are taking a chance when launching missiles, they need to know it's enemy first.

 

If you are in a RU fighter fly low very low so you have a better radar picture cuz they are slow and could for the eos. Before you get into the 25 km range radar off, eos on and start a interception fly. No way to scape there :-)

[Pilotasso]

It was easy to get fighter kills in an A-10 even back in FC2 before missiles sucked. All you have to do is to fly in valeys and lure them close in for a turning fight (good pilots extended away to get room for an IR shot).

 

The A-10 does have a much tighter turn radius (both ingame and in real life) than dedicated supersonic dogfighters like the F-16 or the Mig-29 and can easily force an overshoot. I have had plenty "ZOMG cheatorz" kinda comments from people who didn't know this simple fact.

Edited April 29, 2015 by Pilotasso

[Exorcet]

Agree, I have had some bad encounters with both A-10C and Su-25T as well. If you come to close or even overshoot you are in danger but the A-10's and Su-25's don't have any IFF so they to are taking a chance when launching missiles, they need to know it's enemy first.

 

With the way some people fly on open servers, you'd think they have an IFF that marks everything as the enemy.

 

One of the interesting things when fighting these aircraft is that some of their ordinance reflects radar in DCS. The first time I saw a Su-25 shoot while I was watching the radar I got pretty confused when I saw a new contact appear and streak across the scope at super high speed. I've always wondered if, with extreme luck, you could use that as a decoy.

 

Also, having watched the video now I think it was actually a Su-27, even better kill.

[Low Blow]

Give a rest about the R-77 mate. I find most fighters that get near a TA to shoot down some ground pounders usually get taken out by a Su-25 or A-10 since the ground attack aircraft can easily spot out the gent going mach 1 in an environment where almost everyone is doing 250KIAS. :pilotfly:

 

great video Low Blow!

 

Cheers Toxic! :thumbup:

[Cali]

It was easy to get fighter kills in an A-10 even back in FC2 before missiles sucked. All you have to do is to fly in valeys and lure them close in for a turning fight (good pilots extended away to get room for an IR shot).

 

The A-10 does have a much tighter turn radius (both ingame and in real life) than dedicated supersonic dogfighters like the F-16 or the Mig-29 and can easily force an overshoot. I have had plenty "ZOMG cheatorz" kinda comments from people who didn't know this simple fact.

 

Used to do this all the time in the 504 server, always funny to watch the chat log. But I've had my fair share of catching a missile.

[shagrat]

One thing bugs me: the comment about "commercial reasons for ED to deliberately spoof the R-77" are, let's say out of place!

Ever heard about ongoing development causing bugs and imbalances?

I know it sucks when you get shot down by an "supposedly inferior foe", but why on earth would a developer deliberately break something? To prevent mission designers from using Mig-29s in their missions?

You don't really believe that?

Don't you?

[shagrat]

...and just to give another thought: why is it Fighter jets ALWAYS fight as two ships? You know, lead and wingman concept.

Because it is the Wingman's job to watch lead's ass, while he is engaging an A-10.

The lack of judgment and tactics by the Mig-29 pilot, does not necessarily mean there is something wrong with the Sim.

Or would you expect to survive if you run into a small room to fight with 4 guys wielding knifes while you carry a long barreled single shot rifle?

If the gunman uses his wits, though keep out of reach of the knifes, have a buddy watch his back, and carefully takes the guys out, one by one from the distance... Different story.

Bottom line, best weapon in the world needs to be implemented right to win a fight. Just having the superior weapon never guarantees a kill.