Flagrum Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Fans finally functioning! Thanks BST! So, I was under the impression that this was one of the last "tiny" additions that we are gifted with as the remaining features (bomb sight, etc.) require some DCS ground work (i.e. MP cockpits)? So, then all that is left is ... News 26: English Cockpit News 27: English Manual (finalized) ... riiight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Fans finally functioning! Thanks BST! So, I was under the impression that this was one of the last "tiny" additions that we are gifted with as the remaining features (bomb sight, etc.) require some DCS ground work (i.e. MP cockpits)? So, then all that is left is ... News 26: English Cockpit News 27: English Manual (finalized) ... riiight? English cockpit is allready available! click it in the "special/Mi-8mtv2" options menu. Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence44 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Thank you again Bst for your work ! :) The Gunners and some feature from here:http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=129988 would be also really cool :D [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic104172_5.gif[/sIGPIC] Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/terence44/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 English cockpit is allready available! click it in the "special/Mi-8mtv2" options menu. No. Not with the BST standard installation, i.e. without Devrim's mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarres Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Edit: it seems that the installation copies the files under cockpit/english from the beta... So no oficial english cockpit. Edited January 23, 2016 by Tarres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skjold Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Any plans on implementing more variety of rockets? S-5's? S-24's? Door Gunner? Front PKT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle0110 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Any plans to eventually implementing lose of tail rotor effectiveness effects? Currently there isn't seem to be much point of paying attention to wind direction :music_whistling: Edited February 1, 2016 by Eagle0110 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aircraft I have thoroughly studied: A-10C, Ka-50, Mig-21bis, UH-1H, Boeing 737-800/900, Dash-8Q400, Bell-407 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i7-8750H@2.2GHz 6 Cores turbo up to 4.1GHz, GTX1070 Max-Q@8GB GRAM, 16G RAM, 512G SSD, 500G SSD, CH Product Fighter Stick, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind, TrackIR 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atonium83 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Any plans on implementing more variety of rockets? S-5's? S-24's? Door Gunner? Front PKT? Adding cockpit fans is more important..... :music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle0110 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Adding cockpit fans is more important..... :music_whistling: That's why they have already added the fan Sent from my SM-N9002 using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aircraft I have thoroughly studied: A-10C, Ka-50, Mig-21bis, UH-1H, Boeing 737-800/900, Dash-8Q400, Bell-407 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i7-8750H@2.2GHz 6 Cores turbo up to 4.1GHz, GTX1070 Max-Q@8GB GRAM, 16G RAM, 512G SSD, 500G SSD, CH Product Fighter Stick, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind, TrackIR 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socket7 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Any plans to eventually implementing lose of tail rotor effectiveness effects? Currently there isn't seem to be much point of paying attention to wind direction :music_whistling: Mi-8's tail rotor is so strong it can damage things, which is why you have a pitch limiting system for it. It's not like the UH-1 where a 10 knot wind will give you trouble if you try and push the tail into the wind. I'm not sure there is anything wrong there, but if you've got some evidence current behavior is wrong, I'd love to hear it. :) Practice makes perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Any plans on implementing more variety of rockets? S-5's? S-24's? Door Gunner? Front PKT? You mean this? It is allready possible to have different rockets on the Mi-8. Look here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=151729 Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle0110 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Mi-8's tail rotor is so strong it can damage things, which is why you have a pitch limiting system for it. It's not like the UH-1 where a 10 knot wind will give you trouble if you try and push the tail into the wind. I'm not sure there is anything wrong there, but if you've got some evidence current behavior is wrong, I'd love to hear it. :) I was thinking the same for a while, until I saw this: So apparently it is possible to get Mi-8 into LTE. Or perhaps our newer veriant of Mi-8 has a much more powerful tail rotor than the older one (which has it's tail pointed to the right instead) shown in the video? Appariciate for enlightenment And by the way, LTE is not implemented even in UH-1 is it? I'll be very happy to know I am wrong Sent from my SM-N9002 using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aircraft I have thoroughly studied: A-10C, Ka-50, Mig-21bis, UH-1H, Boeing 737-800/900, Dash-8Q400, Bell-407 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i7-8750H@2.2GHz 6 Cores turbo up to 4.1GHz, GTX1070 Max-Q@8GB GRAM, 16G RAM, 512G SSD, 500G SSD, CH Product Fighter Stick, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind, TrackIR 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 So apparently it is possible to get Mi-8 into LTE. Or perhaps our newer veriant of Mi-8 has a much more powerful tail rotor than the older one (which has it's tail pointed to the right instead) shown in the video? Appariciate for enlightenment That's exactly it! According to a great documentary I watched, early Mi-8 models had problems with LTE, and the engineers realized that the problem was massively reduced as they simply flipped the tail rotor 180 degrees to the left side. Here are the links: Mi-8 The Magnificent Eight (Film 1/2) Mi-8 The Magnificent Eight (Film 2/2) AFAIK the tail rotor was changed with the Mi-8MT, and was placed like this for the export variant known as the Mi-17 right from the beginning (at least that's what it says in the documentary, around the 33 minute mark in part 1). And by the way, LTE is not implemented even in UH-1 is it? I'll be very happy to know I am wrong Never experienced it myself, good question if it's modeled and how to get into it if it is. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle0110 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 That's exactly it! According to a great documentary I watched, early Mi-8 models had problems with LTE, and the engineers realized that the problem was massively reduced as they simply flipped the tail rotor 180 degrees to the left side. Here are the links: Mi-8 The Magnificent Eight (Film 1/2) Mi-8 The Magnificent Eight (Film 2/2) AFAIK the tail rotor was changed with the Mi-8MT, and was placed like this for the export variant known as the Mi-17 right from the beginning (at least that's what it says in the documentary, around the 33 minute mark in part 1). Never experienced it myself, good question if it's modeled and how to get into it if it is. ;) Wow thanks for the great source! That answered exactly my question :D And for the LTE on UH-1, well, before the release of UH-1 module Belsimtek give a very verbal statement saying they will not simulate "complex LTE effect" (http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1744396) due to them "too complex to simulate", which I was a bit surprised, I though such a aerodynamic condition would be exactly the advantage of DCS' real time calculation. But in such a statement it's not clear whether they are not simulating only more complex types of LTE effects (as there can be three different ways you get into LTE) or they are not simulating any possible LTE effect at all... Yet in another post, Belsimtek gave an also very verbal statement indirectly indicating the effect is included exactly as an advantage of DCS' real time calculation: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1581092 I am confused :( And in my own tests I could not get UH-1 into LTE either, though I could have missed many things.... Here in another post someone did an apparently more conclusive test for LTE on UH-1 but the result is not very promising: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1970625 I'm hoping things have changed a little in all these years though... Sent from my SM-N9002 using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aircraft I have thoroughly studied: A-10C, Ka-50, Mig-21bis, UH-1H, Boeing 737-800/900, Dash-8Q400, Bell-407 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i7-8750H@2.2GHz 6 Cores turbo up to 4.1GHz, GTX1070 Max-Q@8GB GRAM, 16G RAM, 512G SSD, 500G SSD, CH Product Fighter Stick, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind, TrackIR 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperwolfpk5 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I was not aware of LTE. Very Nice Eagle0110 you have enlighten this topic. I would like lose of tail effects Win10, Intel 3rd Gen. Core i7 3.8Ghz, 20GB ram, Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB Opentrack (Download it from HERE), PS3 Eye, Saitek x52-pro Joystick, DIY Rudder Pedals, Google Cardboard with DCS World English is not my native language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The switching of the Mi-8 tail rotor from the right to the left had a pretty big impact on tail rotor effectiveness. All they did was flip the tail rotor gearbox over. The effect of this was that the fron of the tail rotor now spins up into the downwash of the main rotor, instead of before where the fron edge of the tail rotor was spinning in the same sirection as the main rotor downwash. This is what make it so much more effective than previous versions. As far as I know, this was another of the Mi-14 upgrades that was "ported" back to the Mi-8MT/Mi-17 versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askerov24 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 LTE is not implemented yet, BST is working on it, so lets be patient. They wrote it in Russian section of our forum. And, BTW, the helicopter on the video is Mi 8T, and someone wrote in comments section that it might be tail rotor gearbox destruction. Acer Aspire E5-571G-713W/Intel® Core™ i7-4510U 2.0-3.1GHz/12 GB DDR3 L Memo/NVIDIA® GeForce® 820M 2 GB/1000 GB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle0110 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 LTE is not implemented yet, BST is working on it, so lets be patient. They wrote it in Russian section of our forum. And, BTW, the helicopter on the video is Mi 8T, and someone wrote in comments section that it might be tail rotor gearbox destruction. Wow thanks for the info, I'm so happy to know they are indeed working on the LTE. Yes, like mentioned in a previous post, our newer Mi-8 is not really affected by LTE, but the lighter UH-1 definitely have missed it. I will be patiently and excitedly awaiting for BST's implementation to arrive Sent from my SM-N9002 using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aircraft I have thoroughly studied: A-10C, Ka-50, Mig-21bis, UH-1H, Boeing 737-800/900, Dash-8Q400, Bell-407 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i7-8750H@2.2GHz 6 Cores turbo up to 4.1GHz, GTX1070 Max-Q@8GB GRAM, 16G RAM, 512G SSD, 500G SSD, CH Product Fighter Stick, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind, TrackIR 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle0110 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The switching of the Mi-8 tail rotor from the right to the left had a pretty big impact on tail rotor effectiveness. All they did was flip the tail rotor gearbox over. The effect of this was that the fron of the tail rotor now spins up into the downwash of the main rotor, instead of before where the fron edge of the tail rotor was spinning in the same sirection as the main rotor downwash. This is what make it so much more effective than previous versions. As far as I know, this was another of the Mi-14 upgrades that was "ported" back to the Mi-8MT/Mi-17 versions. You are right, some previous post also concluded that our newer Mi-8 are not affected much by LTE, but the lighter UH-1 definitely missed this simulation. Good thing is, as Askerov mentioned (http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2664064), BST is working on this feature so we will eventually see them to come Sent from my SM-N9002 using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aircraft I have thoroughly studied: A-10C, Ka-50, Mig-21bis, UH-1H, Boeing 737-800/900, Dash-8Q400, Bell-407 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i7-8750H@2.2GHz 6 Cores turbo up to 4.1GHz, GTX1070 Max-Q@8GB GRAM, 16G RAM, 512G SSD, 500G SSD, CH Product Fighter Stick, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind, TrackIR 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socket7 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm so glad I asked for more information about the tail rotor. So much good info comes out of asking "can you show me why you think that?" :) Practice makes perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askerov24 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 :) The thing is, Mi 8MT or Mi 17 modifications and later are affected by LTE, but not that much like Mi 8T or other right sided tail rotor modifications. BST knows how to implement it theoretically :) so, ))) they are working on it Acer Aspire E5-571G-713W/Intel® Core™ i7-4510U 2.0-3.1GHz/12 GB DDR3 L Memo/NVIDIA® GeForce® 820M 2 GB/1000 GB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle0110 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Exactly, you can always be amazed by how much you can learn just from asking in this amazing forum And I'm so happy to know BST will eventually implemente LTE Sent from my SM-N9002 using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aircraft I have thoroughly studied: A-10C, Ka-50, Mig-21bis, UH-1H, Boeing 737-800/900, Dash-8Q400, Bell-407 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i7-8750H@2.2GHz 6 Cores turbo up to 4.1GHz, GTX1070 Max-Q@8GB GRAM, 16G RAM, 512G SSD, 500G SSD, CH Product Fighter Stick, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind, TrackIR 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperwolfpk5 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Happy to hear that BST is working hard Win10, Intel 3rd Gen. Core i7 3.8Ghz, 20GB ram, Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB Opentrack (Download it from HERE), PS3 Eye, Saitek x52-pro Joystick, DIY Rudder Pedals, Google Cardboard with DCS World English is not my native language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 This girl is working hard too: http://www.russianhelicopters.aero/en/press/news/Peruvian+Army+Mi-171Sh+pilot+Melody+Moon+Torres/ :thumbup: Just wonder what she'd think of our MTV2... 1 The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 This girl is working hard too: http://www.russianhelicopters.aero/en/press/news/Peruvian+Army+Mi-171Sh+pilot+Melody+Moon+Torres/ :thumbup: Just wonder what she'd think of our MTV2... My Peruvian chick thinks DCS is a childish hobby. But she prefers me having this hobby much more then other hobbies like drinking and chasing other women. So I am in the clear. :music_whistling::lol::thumbup: Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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