FAQ: VEAO Typhoon for DCS World

[Pikey]

I suspect the implementation of certain features is actually listed directly in a legal document made between the manuafacturer and the users that provided data and therefore all the conversation about could it or couldn't it is rendered moot because the deal says what they can and can't market, not the technology or software.

 

We aren't close to release anyway, I wish I could channel all this energy and enthusiasm into something like a charity...

[OperatorJack]

Let's get real. The Hawk has quality issues. No sound in cockpit when firing the ADEN. Shell ejection and muzzle flash are located way below the ADEN pod.

I decided to use sidewinders instead. Tried to adjust missile seeker volume by turning the knob. Didn't work.

 

I would say this is fairly basic stuff that should have been fixed by now, but there is always more "critical" bugs to deal with, or Duxford... sigh.

On another hand, the latest screenshots and videos of the P-40F looks very promising and I hope that the "road" will be less bumpy this time around.

 

I will always support a quality product and If the EF turns out great I will buy it.

But unless Veao proves that they can make a quality product (and I hope they will), I wouldn't even get into the discussion of a TGP or other

advanced systems on a Typhoon. First get the basics right, then we can talk about the extras :)

 

This

 

I'm not happy with the state of the Hawk and how long it's taking to be fixed.

[QuiGon]

We aren't close to release anyway, I wish I could channel all this energy and enthusiasm into something like a charity...

 

Are we not? Latest news was still, that they aim for a release this year: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2730229&postcount=157 ;)

 

Yeah, I know this is probably not the case anymore and it's no biggie. :)

An update on the development process would be really welcome though.

[Pman]

Let's get real. The Hawk has quality issues. No sound in cockpit when firing the ADEN. Shell ejection and muzzle flash are located way below the ADEN pod.

I decided to use sidewinders instead. Tried to adjust missile seeker volume by turning the knob. Didn't work.

 

I would say this is fairly basic stuff that should have been fixed by now, but there is always more "critical" bugs to deal with, or Duxford... sigh.

On another hand, the latest screenshots and videos of the P-40F looks very promising and I hope that the "road" will be less bumpy this time around.

 

I will always support a quality product and If the EF turns out great I will buy it.

But unless Veao proves that they can make a quality product (and I hope they will), I wouldn't even get into the discussion of a TGP or other

advanced systems on a Typhoon. First get the basics right, then we can talk about the extras :)

 

This

 

I'm not happy with the state of the Hawk and how long it's taking to be fixed.

 

Can we please keep this thread on topic :)

 

This is an FAQ regarding features and development for the Eurofighter Typhoon :)

 

Pman

[TomCatMucDe]

Are we not? Latest news was still, that they aim for a release this year: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2730229&postcount=157 ;)

 

:megalol:

 

Guess what, they will say 2017

[QuiGon]

:megalol:

 

Guess what, they will say 2017

 

Well, that would be something :D

 

But I'm not really asking for a date. Just some info on how development proceeds would be really appreciated :)

[Pman]

Well, that would be something :D

 

But I'm not really asking for a date. Just some info on how development proceeds would be really appreciated :)

 

Keep an eye on our monthly updates, when there is news to share we will share it there

 

Pman

[QuiGon]

Keep an eye on our monthly updates, when there is news to share we will share it there

 

Pman

 

That's basically what I'm asking. The last one is from August ;)

[Pman]

That's basically what I'm asking. The last one is from August ;)

 

I did say when there is news to share ;)

 

We don't always have news to share on all our WIP, most of the time we focus on currently released products and the next in line - Currently the P-40F

 

Pman

[QuiGon]

I did say when there is news to share ;)

 

We don't always have news to share on all our WIP, most of the time we focus on currently released products and the next in line - Currently the P-40F

 

Pman

 

Alright, just trying to get some info, but your lips are sealed pretty well :P

 

I guess I have to wait then :D

[MemphisBelle]

[...] most of the time we focus on currently released products and the next in line - Currently the P-40F

 

 

so much I´m giving somethings to those who like the Warbirds more than the thesedays fastmover so much I´m really looking forward for "real" Jets. We have some interesting Modules in stock already, thats for sure, but those which I really like to have are always still in development. But those warbirds are growing out of the ground like mushrooms, what reason might that be :)

Edited October 11, 2016 by MemphisBelle

[shagrat]

so much I´m giving somethings to those who like the Warbirds more than the thesedays fastmover so much I´m really looking forward for "real" Jets. We have some interesting Modules in stock already, thats for sure, but those which I really like to have are always still in development. But those warbirds are growing out of the ground like mushrooms, what reason might that be :)

More information, blueprints and accessible planes out there with non-classified stuff.

And the avionics are pretty straight forward. Not saying easier here, as modelling analogue stuff realistically with its quirks or hydrodynamic modeling in fuel and hydraulics systems can be pretty complex. But it is easier to get the basics out there, than for a modern Jet fighter for sure.

 

That is, why the Typhoon is so amazing!

[Spectre11]

Nope. The Jäger 90/TFX design studies were a fighter only.

After the commencing of the "Eurofighter" design and capabilities it was a multirole aircraft, otherwise it wouldn't have been funded.

Germany wasn't planning for air-ground capabilities, but we get a British Typhoon.

The whole production schedule took into account the development of systems and weapons over a longer timeframe, but the plan for the current Eurofighter Typhoon (not the Jäger 90) was a multirole at the end, before the production started. :smartass:

 

Wrong this persistent myth will never die. If you would deal with the TKF90 programme you would know that a dual-role capability was part of the concepts. The Germans only stepped towards AA only when the Cold War was close to be over and Germany was re-united.

[shagrat]

Wrong this persistent myth will never die. If you would deal with the TKF90 programme you would know that a dual-role capability was part of the concepts. The Germans only stepped towards AA only when the Cold War was close to be over and Germany was re-united.

Interesting! So the whole Air-to-air only was never true?

I have indeed only access to a little bit of "internal" info, but was aware, that the German decision for basic A/A capabilities was driven by financial aspects after the reunification, combined with the supposed to be diminished threat of a Warsaw Pact ground offensive.

 

Do you have some source that can convince the guys here, that argue again, and again "the Eurofighter was planned as A/A only"...

 

Because nobody seems to believe me, when I say the Eurofighter was always planned as a Swing role/Multirole Fighter... :dunno:

[TaktLwG 73 Steinhoff]

Will the eurofighter have different pilot models? Afaik the U.K. And for example Germany have different anti g suits etc...

AND: will we get skins of different nations?

[Pman]

Will the eurofighter have different pilot models? Afaik the U.K. And for example Germany have different anti g suits etc...

AND: will we get skins of different nations?

 

 

 

No, currently there is one pilot model

 

Pman

 

 

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[Ells228]

Skins for different nations are planned yes.

 

We will probably release the pilot texture PSD's along with the external texture PSD's so you can change to your hearts content.

[Schnelli]

When we speak about different nations: Is or was the Block 5 Typhoon also used by other nations? And in how far does for example the german Block 5 differ from the british one, you are making? Or are all BLock 5 Typhoons from all nations identical to each other?

Im very curious about this, since I like the idea of flying the same jet as the Luftwaffe. ;)

[Pman]

When we speak about different nations: Is or was the Block 5 Typhoon also used by other nations? And in how far does for example the german Block 5 differ from the british one, you are making? Or are all BLock 5 Typhoons from all nations identical to each other?

Im very curious about this, since I like the idea of flying the same jet as the Luftwaffe. ;)

 

 

 

No they are not the same, main differences include some defensive profiles and available weapons and deployment profiles.

 

We will not be implementing any differences to the standard RAF Typhoon.

 

Iris-t for example is not used on RAF typhoons so will not be included.

 

Pman

 

 

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[HoraZ]

Think Iris-t would be just not fair :D And a later version of the EF too! Think its time to search for member of my EF-demolition team ;D

[Sryan]

will CCIP/CCRP make it in? Any chance for PGM's that do not rely on the LDP such as JDAM's or SDB's? I believe SBD's are cancelled for the RL RAF typhoons in favor of SPEAR-3 missiles though. Any confirmation that we're getting the ASRAAM? I don't think I need to ask for SPEAR-3's :)

[mattebubben]

will CCIP/CCRP make it in? Any chance for PGM's that do not rely on the LDP such as JDAM's or SDB's? I believe SBD's are cancelled for the RL RAF typhoons in favor of SPEAR-3 missiles though. Any confirmation that we're getting the ASRAAM? I don't think I need to ask for SPEAR-3's :)

 

The Asraam should be there (as it served on RAF Eurofighters from the start)so as long as they get the info they need it should probably be included.

 

As for Jdam i would guess not as i dont think it has yet been adapted to any Eurofighter yet alone the pre 2009 Block 5

(Though apparently the Block 2s are supposed to be adapted to carry it in the future)

 

And the Spear-3 is still just in development so for a 2008 specs Eurofighter Typhoon Block 5 its out of the question =P.

 

CCIP and CCRP should both be available as it should be capable of carrying and using dumb weapons (Unguided bombs etc).

[Sryan]

The Asraam should be there (as it served on RAF Eurofighters from the start)so as long as they get the info they need it should probably be included.

 

As for Jdam i would guess not as i dont think it has yet been adapted to any Eurofighter yet alone the pre 2009 Block 5

(Though apparently the Block 2s are supposed to be adapted to carry it in the future)

 

And the Spear-3 is still just in development so for a 2008 specs Eurofighter Typhoon Block 5 its out of the question =P.

 

CCIP and CCRP should both be available as it should be capable of carrying and using dumb weapons (Unguided bombs etc).

 

Oh I see. From the text in post #1 it's possible to gather that that specific typhoon can deploy the enhanced paveway Laser/JDAM bomb. But VEAO has choosen not to develop it. Since it can drop those EPAVs I might have assumed it was still capable of dropping regular JDAMs.

 

I hope we hear, or even better, see something about the ASRAAM some day soon then:)

[mattebubben]

Oh I see. From the text in post #1 it's possible to gather that that specific typhoon can deploy the enhanced paveway Laser/JDAM bomb. But VEAO has choosen not to develop it. Since it can drop those EPAVs I might have assumed it was still capable of dropping regular JDAMs.

 

I hope we hear, or even better, see something about the ASRAAM some day soon then:)

 

The Aircraft we are getting will be a Block 5 before the upgrades that gave it advanced Air-Ground Abilities.

So its not capable of any advanced air-ground weapons.

 

Later Block 5s might be but that is not what is being simulated.

 

But either way the Jdam has not entered service on any Eurofighter yet

 

(even the latest Tranche 2 aircraft cannot carry it yet from what i can find)

[Chrinik]

Do you have some source that can convince the guys here, that argue again, and again "the Eurofighter was planned as A/A only"...

 

Because nobody seems to believe me, when I say the Eurofighter was always planned as a Swing role/Multirole Fighter... :dunno:

 

Who sais that!? It was always "planned" to be multirole...but it was planned to upgrade capabilities later and essentially sell a Beta first that can only do one thing well and worry about the rest later.

 

I mean, the computer doesn´t even seem to have the computation power for proper swing-role. They upped that with Tranche 2, afaik.

Edited October 22, 2016 by Chrinik