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I don't know man, sounds a lot like what you're asking for. The FARP next to the oil derrick would be one of those strategic points you're looking for. I realize you're looking for more than this though I'm not sure how feasible most of it is.

 

Seems there's a lot of complaining about the fuel mechanic from that post. My take, I love it! Gives the choppers something meaningful to do that's a real contribution to the war effort. Reducing the value of the fuel by allowing more to be carried only brings us to the point of irrelevance thus why have the system? There's a fine balance in there. Don't make it too painful, but neither too pointless otherwise we should just go back to air quake.

 

One side not having fuel may prevent that side from opposing a strike package at their front door because of their poor supply chain management. All this is a large part of Blue Flag which a lot of folks want to remove or make irrelevant. In that case just don't play Blue Flag, go play air quake.

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I don't know man, sounds a lot like what you're asking for. The FARP next to the oil derrick would be one of those strategic points you're looking for. I realize you're looking for more than this though I'm not sure how feasible most of it is.

 

Seems there's a lot of complaining about the fuel mechanic from that post. My take, I love it! Gives the choppers something meaningful to do that's a real contribution to the war effort. Reducing the value of the fuel by allowing more to be carried only brings us to the point of irrelevance thus why have the system? There's a fine balance in there. Don't make it too painful, but neither too pointless otherwise we should just go back to air quake.

 

One side not having fuel may prevent that side from opposing a strike package at their front door because of their poor supply chain management. All this is a large part of Blue Flag which a lot of folks want to remove or make irrelevant. In that case just don't play Blue Flag, go play air quake.

 

The fact is...the supply chain as currently modeled is backwards. That's not complaint...that's an opinion based on experience.

 

That being said, your comment "I realize you're looking for more than this though I'm not sure how feasible most of it is." Shows obvious lack of imagination.

If it can be set up so FARPs have unlimited fuel to move around when bases go empty...it can be set up so the opposite is true.

If it can be set up so destroyed bunkers prevent an airfield from repairing...it can probably be set up so a building at a fuel storage facility can accomplish the same task.

Finally my previous posts indicate there should still be work for choppers. I do I fact like flying the Huey.

I guess you missed that.

 

It would helpful if you and your buddy M460 offered your own suggestions verses pontificating on why what I suggest won't work. But judging from the new accounts and confrontational attitudes, I'm pretty sure you're not here to help.

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The fact is...the supply chain as currently modeled is backwards. That's not complaint...that's an opinion based on experience. That being said, you're comment "I realize you're looking for more than this though I'm not sure how feasible most of it is." Shows obvious lack of imagination. If it can be set up so FARPs have unlimited fuel to move around when bases go empty...it can be set up so the opposite is true. If it can be set up so destroyed bunkers prevent an airfield from repairing...it can probably be set up so a building at a fuel storage facility can accomplish the same task. Finally my previous post indicate there is still work for choppers. I do I fact like flying the Huey..I guess you missed that.

 

Perhaps it would help if you and your buddy M460 offered suggestions verses pontificating on why what I suggest won't work. But judging from the new accounts and confrontational attitudes, I'm pretty sure your not here to help.

M460's thoughts are his own. They do not reflect mine.

 

I can be just as confrontational, but I'm not trying to be. You seem to be of the opinion there is one way, and if it isn't this way then it isn't the right way.

 

Fuel IRL doesn't come from airbases so your suggestion of unlimited fuel at specific airbases is no different than unlimited fuel at FARPs. The FARPs are simulating the exact same thing your MOBs are except you want to make your MOBs unconquerable.

 

I'm not really in favor of your concepts because when you take the human component out of it by letting the AI handle things, then you're going to be left with nothing but CAP flights, and you might as well stick to the 104th then.

 

This is just my opinion on an idea for which I've never seen or experienced. I'm all for you fronting your idea as you have, and if Buddy Spike wants to switch over to it, then I'll certainly try it out. Who knows, maybe I'll like it, but then maybe I won't.

 

Edit: Oh, and a suggestion since you've requested: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2754765&postcount=1173

... but wait, there's more:

I'd like to deny airbases the capability of refueling another airbase without removing stock from one to the other. I want to see fuel for FARPs, and whatnot come from designated oil depot's and or refineries placed equal distance across the map such that Bluefor, and Redfor have the same travel time.

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Xcom and Greg you think get 2 L-39ZA at Sochi there postion at anapa way out the front lines provide recon support and fire suppoert or postion them at gelensik airbase slightly closer to Sochi.

 

another important note can please take away all model enlargement completely it kills realisem if flying small airplanes like hawk or choppers and mig-21 and L-39 an so on. Reality mark I eye balls can see as much can but alot pilots have very hard diffcultcalty to spot small aircrafts such as mig-21 and choopers and light attack planes so pilot have use his wits and be closer in be able spot on site.

 

Anyway what i got this eveing testing on Blue flag

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In that case can we think of no 27-ER and 27-ET also no 73 archer

It's amazing to me that you're making this much of a fuss over a change that would return to a situation that gave you a slight advantage, arguably moreso than the one AIM-120C provides over R-27ER.

 

But people don't always argue their own best interests, after all.

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It's amazing to me that you're making this much of a fuss over a change that would return to a situation that gave you a slight advantage, arguably moreso than the one AIM-120C provides over R-27ER.

 

But people don't always argue their own best interests, after all.

 

im being sarcastic if you didn't notice

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im being sarcastic if you didn't notice

 

"I was just pretending to be retarded"

If you're seriously arguing that Blue need an advantage you need to give your head a wobble, don't backpedal when you're called out either.

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Greg do you have a tentative ETA on when the round begins?

 

We are working on some improvements for the fuel process and monitoring some server crashes we have so it may need some more time.

If all goes well we should start next week.

 

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In that case can we think of no 27-ER and 27-ET also no 73 archer

 

you sir need to pull your head out your butt.

 

WHAT are the differences between the 2, Would this break the game? Everyone knows an ER is defeated by about 6 chaff and a turn when it's not lagging. the Russian 77 vs the B, still the B is a better missile.

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Still think Fox 3 should be left out , its just not fair for people who don`t want to fly FC3

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Still think Fox 3 should be left out , its just not fair for people who don`t want to fly FC3

 

We could sit and argue all day about what is fair, how about R-3R overperfroming or Mirage overperforming the list is long.

Personally whatever is put up i'll fly all and anything without a care if i'm outmatched or overpowering, it is all fun so bring it on.

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I have not decided what team to fly on looks like it might be blue and i would BE FINE with 120B.

 

i just think the B variant would be a better overall fit to the campaign.

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We could sit and argue all day about what is fair, how about R-3R overperfroming or Mirage overperforming the list is long.

Personally whatever is put up i'll fly all and anything without a care if i'm outmatched or overpowering, it is all fun so bring it on.

 

The R3R may overperform but it still won't hit further than 10-15km away

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R-3R overperfroming

 

That's fine. Don't cry. Everything gonna be alright. R-3R needs a radar to be fired, and Mig-21 radar is not working anymore. :D

 

I agree with statement tho ;) R3-R clearly overpowered. But since they are things that simulator and campaign doesn't model (cost / availability / fuel / plane and maintenance quality), it's pretty much ok for me :D

 

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The R3R may overperform but it still won't hit further than 10-15km away

Right now you're basically lucky to get the sapphire to lock from that distance..

 

But yeah, the R-3R is overperforming. It won't be doing much of that while its necessary guidance tool is functionally kaput, however.

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Right now you're basically lucky to get the sapphire to lock from that distance..

 

But yeah, the R-3R is overperforming. It won't be doing much of that while its necessary guidance tool is functionally kaput, however.

It is not the radar range that is broke its the fact the radar is not stabilised to the horizon. The radar still sees contacts out to 25km just upwards inline with AoA instead of forwards. The cone direction is why contacts on the nose don't show up until late.

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It is not the radar range that is broke its the fact the radar is not stabilised to the horizon. The radar still sees contacts out to 25km just upwards inline with AoA instead of forwards. The cone direction is why contacts on the nose don't show up until late.

If you've got the exact parameters of the new cone memorized, by all means, do tell. (Seriously, I'd like to be able to fly the MiG again before it gets fixed).

 

For me it's functionally identical to having a reduced range, just sayin'.

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If you've got the exact parameters of the new cone memorized, by all means, do tell. (Seriously, I'd like to be able to fly the MiG again before it gets fixed).

 

For me it's functionally identical to having a reduced range, just sayin'.

There is no need to memorize any parameters the radar is broke, simple. Nose down and you'll see the contacts.

 

If you want to fix it you can just take the mods/aircraft/mig21bis/bin folder from the earliest version of 1.5.3.50487.22 (where it worked correctly)and overwrite it in your latest version 1.5.3. This will require some back peddling to the earliest version of 1.5.3 (1.5.3.50487.22), saving the folder then updating back to the latest 1.5.3 and then adding the folder.

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