Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign

[fox3]

add please to the red side UVAF (Ukrainian Virtual Air Force) pilots which took a part in this campaign :)

=UVAF= Rado[418]

=UVAF= Voka[455]

=UVAF= Raven[417]

=UVAF= GregOzby[430]

=UVAF= Peter[404]

=UVAF= Tester[414]

=UVAF= UP[419]

 

s/c special striker wing "Death Wing" as part of UVAF

=DW=Wizard_VVS

=DW=Omny

Edited September 7, 2015 by fox3

[StandingCow]

I got booted twice yesterday with the message "disconnected". Not sure why, my ping was 178 so maybe it crossed the 200 threshold?

[QuiGon]

I noticed a lot of the helos are hot start. Why is that and would it be possible to make ALL aircraft cold start?

[xcom]

We are in the process of testing new features this week.

Next week or by the end of this week the 2nd round will start and the server should be more stable.

 

Helos at FARPs are hot start, at airbases are cold start.

[Jacks]

XCom, have you considered changing the season to winter so the mission will look different from the last. Or use fall season so the desert texture by starway could be used. This will help differsentiate between the two rounds and Add some variety

[gregzagk]

Hello all!

 

As Xcom said we focus on the preparation of the 2nd round in order to ensure stability on its release.

 

We shall really soon ask a moderator to close this thread and will open a new one dedicated to the 2nd round which will contain the changelog and the new pdf guide. Registrations continue with the same way as before.

 

Squadrons and pilots registrations of the 1st round will be transferred for the 2nd round without the need of registering again.

 

If someone wants to remove his name or change sides please post or pm to us and we will take care of it asap.

 

 

 

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Propaganda mode on:

Red side is looking for squadrons and lonewolves mostly available after + 23:00 zulu time (late EU zones) in order to improve balance between the number of pilots during all timezones .

 

Blue registered squadrons and lonewolves that would be interested in deflecting and join us are mostly welcome!

 

 

Propaganda mode off.

 

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Changelog for the 2nd round ( We may still change features or add more based on stability of the server )

- Statistics script added in order to keep stats during the campaign

- Fighters ( F-15C’s / SU-27’s) need to refuel before ramp start

- SU-27’s are now allowed to carry A-G weapons

- When you capture an initially enemy city your side will get SAM & EWR also in it for better defence

- MiG-21’s slots will be available when you capture an initially enemy airbase

- General slots (blue & red) will be available to all airbases even if some of them are dedicated for squadrons

- Squadrons were added to dedicated airbases

- Fixed the bug of radio spamming of the F-4’s (Thanks to Maverick for the tip)

- Ping limit set to 350

- Web based map and gadget will show also the status of Cities, Airbases & FARP's (Closed etc)

 

Greg

Edited September 8, 2015 by gregzagk

[Jacks]

Sounds good, looking forward to the second round since the first was so addictive. Greg, XCom and team well done on such a well organised and enjoyable event.

[QuiGon]

Helos at FARPs are hot start, at airbases are cold start.

Yeah, that's what I meant. I really don't like that to be honest. It takes away all the fun of getting your machine up running (and the thrill when you do this and there is a threat). Also I almost always insta-crash when I join such a helo and forget too instantly move my collective to sync it to keep it away from the fully raised position :joystick:

 

I guess there is a reason behind this decision? I would love it could be changed to cold start though. It's a real bummer for me :(

 

Hello all!

- MiG-21’s slots will be available when you capture an initially enemy airbase

That's nice to hear! Looking forward to the next round.

 

Btw, how's the general balance around european evening (1800Z-2300Z)? I'm asking because i might switch if it makes sense.

Edited September 8, 2015 by QuiGon

[gregzagk]

I guess there is a reason behind this decision? I would love it could be changed to cold start though. It's a real bummer for me :(

 

The reason is that if more than 2 clients try to spawn on FARP's they usually collide and it causes issues such as frame drop etc. You would be more dissapointed if somebody crashes on you as he respawn and fill debris the FARP :D

 

Also if you will find any chopper on hot start at an airbase it's cause the parking slots are not enough for aircraft and choppers at it.

 

Greg

[QuiGon]

The reason is that if more than 2 clients try to spawn on FARP's they usually collide and it causes issues such as frame drop etc. You would be more dissapointed if somebody crashes on you as he respawn and fill debris the FARP :D

 

Also if you will find any chopper on hot start at an airbase it's cause the parking slots are not enough for aircraft and choppers at it.

 

Greg

 

Thanks for answering that :)

It's not really what I hoped for, but it makes sense I guess.

 

Anyways, you guys are doing an awesome job and bring the entire game to a hole new level. Haven't had so much fun in DCS ever before! :thumbup:

[carrollhead]

As I said earlier - put the 31st on red :) we'll try to get on as much as work and wives allow :)

[fox3]

As I said earlier - put the 31st on red :) we'll try to get on as much as work and wives allow :)

 

it would be great :thumbup:

[StandingCow]

I know the server is testing stuff atm, but me and some buddies joined blue side, went to the red airport Sochi-Adler... SAMS were not tracking us, and eventually we found out we couldn't see each other, so I think we were desynced.

 

Just FYI in case that isn't how things should be working.

[gregzagk]

I know the server is testing stuff atm, but me and some buddies joined blue side, went to the red airport Sochi-Adler... SAMS were not tracking us, and eventually we found out we couldn't see each other, so I think we were desynced.

 

Just FYI in case that isn't how things should be working.

 

Thanks for letting us know. It was an issue in the statistics script and stopped the functions. Putting the server up in a few minutes again .

 

Thanks again

 

Greg

[Sierra99]

... AND MEETING AND WORKING WITH NEW FRIENDS! Especially old and new friends of the blue side TAW, the VEAF, IAF, 104th and oodles of lonewolves that came in like Beamrider and all the other names I forgot.

 

Pikey I fly as BeamRider...if you were the controller when the Zues was hiding in the hanger at at Maykop all I can say is thank you. Getting tasked by a human...to go after a human...playing peak-a-boo with AAA is exactly why I fly sims! And people must realize...this is how it's done in the real world!

 

During operation Allied Force in 1999 while flying in a KC-10 over the Adriatic we listened to the following conversation between a set of F-16s.

 

FAC: "Stand by for data"

 

(After a moment...)

 

F-16 "No Data"

 

FAC: "OK...I'll laze it for you"

 

(After a moment...)

 

F-16: "No Joy"

 

FAC "OK...Do you see the town?"

 

F-16 "Affirm"

 

FAC "Do you see the road leading north out of the center of town?"

 

F-16 "Affirm"

 

FAC "Follow it to the freshly plowed field"

 

F-16: "Got it"

 

FAC: See the barn on the north East Corner with a grove of trees next to it?"

 

F-16: "Affirm"

 

FAC: "There is an SA-3 in that barn...drop your GBUs on that barn!"

 

In the end it came down to the Mk1 Mod0 human eyeball to get work done and you did an outstanding job of directing traffic.

[RightStuff]

Squadrons and pilots registrations of the 1st round will be transferred for the 2nd round without the need of registering again.

 

If someone wants to remove his name or change sides please post or pm to us and we will take care of it asap.

 

I'd like to suggest to ask the registrants for their timezone as well.

Makes it easier four you to take care of the "day/night"-oddity and balance the power.

[gregzagk]

I'd like to suggest to ask the registrants for their timezone as well.

Makes it easier four you to take care of the "day/night"-oddity and balance the power.

 

At this time we didn't draw the teams but most of the squadrons and lonewolves joined their sides depending what they fly most (F-15 or SU-27). So it would be up to the squadrons and lonewolves that fly also the SU-27 to join the red side.

 

Greg

[GUMAR]

...

Changelog for the 2nd round ( We may still change features or add more based on stability of the server )

...

Greg

Still no Su-25...:cry:

[RightStuff]

At this time we didn't draw the teams but most of the squadrons and lonewolves joined their sides depending what they fly most (F-15 or SU-27). So it would be up to the squadrons and lonewolves that fly also the SU-27 to join the red side.

 

Greg

 

Hm... I don't think it's a big matter of F-15 or Su-27.

 

All other planes are available on both sides.

IMO there's the chance (or need) to balance the power. :helpsmilie:

[Pikey]

Hey Beamrider!

Happy times indeed. Working as a team to accomplish difficult goals is why I love online gaming I get a real buzz from it. You will be delighted to know that I have introduced Xcom and Greg to the developer of lotATC so we can try to resolve problems using it and extend peoples comms interaction even more.

 

During this campaign I saw both sides setup up contra rotating caps with differing altitudes at strategic points. The finer point of this evil is best seen from radar :). And best accomplished so!

 

Pikey I fly as BeamRider...if you were the

controller when the Zues was hiding in the hanger at at Maykop all I can say is thank you. Getting tasked by a human...to go after a human...playing peak-a-boo with AAA is exactly why I fly sims! And people must realize...this is how it's done in the real world!

 

During operation Allied Force in 1999 while flying in a KC-10 over the Adriatic we listened to the following conversation between a set of F-16s.

 

FAC: "Stand by for data"

 

(After a moment...)

 

F-16 "No Data"

 

FAC: "OK...I'll laze it for you"

 

(After a moment...)

 

F-16: "No Joy"

 

FAC "OK...Do you see the town?"

 

F-16 "Affirm"

 

FAC "Do you see the road leading north out of the center of town?"

 

F-16 "Affirm"

 

FAC "Follow it to the freshly plowed field"

 

F-16: "Got it"

 

FAC: See the barn on the north East Corner with a grove of trees next to it?"

 

F-16: "Affirm"

 

FAC: "There is an SA-3 in that barn...drop your GBUs on that barn!"

 

In the end it came down to the Mk1 Mod0 human eyeball to get work done and you did an outstanding job of directing traffic.

[zaelu]

Sorry to repeat one question in other form.

 

Any chance at least for some testing or public acceptance of a more red versus blue setup?

 

At least the transport choppers (UH1H Blue and Mi-8 Red) and ground attackers (A10s Blue and Su25s Red).

 

My thanks for making at least CAP planes true red and blue!

[Pikey]

Greg/Xcom,

 

I spoke to the troops. If it would suit the balance of the campaign any better, we would be happy to oblige and run Red side. We are pretty crap at air to air anyway.

 

Mike

[gregzagk]

Sorry to repeat one question in other form.

 

Any chance at least for some testing or public acceptance of a more red versus blue setup?

 

At least the transport choppers (UH1H Blue and Mi-8 Red) and ground attackers (A10s Blue and Su25s Red).

 

My thanks for making at least CAP planes true red and blue!

 

Hello. Unfortunately not. Just because it will be nice as a realistic scenario doesn't mean that it will work as a 24/7 campaign for many reasons including for example that the A-10C & KA-50 are owned by a great number of pilots and by dividing them in sides will increase dramatically the balance problem.

 

Greg

[Esac_mirmidon]

Any chance to let A-10 to spawn on shelters?

 

The other planes and helicopters spawned with all systems up and running but the A-10C spawns cold and it takes time, a lot of time to have it all working before take off and beeing destroyed at the parking area is very frustrating sometimes.

[carrollhead]

Any chance to let A-10 to spawn on shelters?

 

The other planes and helicopters spawned with all systems up and running but the A-10C spawns cold and it takes time, a lot of time to have it all working before take off and beeing destroyed at the parking area is very frustrating sometimes.

 

You can always do an in flight alignment :)

 

Just got off the server where there was a bit of a scrap going for Mozdok. It was one of the best nights playing DCS I've had in a long time :) I even bagged an SU-27 from my Hog with a snapshot from the gun, followed by a sidewinder up his pipe:joystick:. (Happens once every century for me!)

 

One thing that I would like to see though is night missions - bad weather would probably hurt performance too much :(. Also maybe a brevity channel on TS - some FAC-A action would be awesome.....