RedBear Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Well is official our president anounce it today. I saw a post here about the posible sell of ours F16 in favor of the su 37 or something, i imagine that you guys would like to know We will received the firts parts of this shipment before the end of this year the next part will come in 2007. At the moment they have not say how many aircraft they will buy. Two Su 30 will be coming for our independence day parade of 5th july lets see if they do some acrobatics there jeje the pilots on the plane will be venezuelan. If is posible i puit a link for a picture of the parade.
Gazehound Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 If is posible i puit a link for a picture of the parade. :thumbup: Let us know if you get a picture of it in venezualan colours colours before then! VVS504 Red Hammers
*Rage* Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Any idea which version of the Su-30? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
Cobra360 Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 It's probably a customised version of the Su-30MK, customers can basically fit what they want on it and to it. Recently there have been pics of the MKI in India fitted with the Litening II targeting pod.
Stealth_HR Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 May they safely fly, always survive and never take off in aggression. :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Real men fly ground attack :pilotfly: where EVERYTHING wants a piece of you :D
Pilotasso Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 LOL how does it feel to swich from horse to mule? :D .
Stealth_HR Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 LOL how does it feel to swich from horse to mule? :D The Su-30MK is the equivalent of the Su-37 in all terms... even TVC in some models. If they get anything past the 30MK-1, it'll be TVC-equipped for sure with avionics comparable to the 37 demo model. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Real men fly ground attack :pilotfly: where EVERYTHING wants a piece of you :D
GGTharos Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Not quite, the 37 has a better TWR ... but I guess that might be splitting hairs. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
nscode Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Two Su 30 will be coming for our independence day parade of 5th july lets see if they do some acrobatics there jeje the pilots on the plane will be venezuelan. don't think so ;) first they'll need to engage in a sport called training :) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
dynamocl Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Which they could have been doing for a long time due to a hobby called "pilot exchange".
Force_Feedback Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Lets hope they'll get a cool green paintjob, or something radical, not just all these splinter camos (they're nice as well, but I was hoping for some eye candy) Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
RedBear Posted June 15, 2006 Author Posted June 15, 2006 don't think so ;) first they'll need to engage in a sport called training :) There was personal of our air force for almost a year in russia doing training.but i was thinking it was for some helicopters but turns out that they where in sukoi. I have nice that is marry with an air force member (ground crew) I am waiting for this guy to return to know which vertion of the plane is.
RedBear Posted June 15, 2006 Author Posted June 15, 2006 Lets hope they'll get a cool green paintjob, or something radical, not just all these splinter camos (they're nice as well, but I was hoping for some eye candy) i am looking forward to it the the paint job here is us vietnam camo stile. will blue or green ...... lets see....
Pilotasso Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 LOL how does it feel to swich from horse to mule? :D The Su-30MK is the equivalent of the Su-37 in all terms... even TVC in some models. If they get anything past the 30MK-1, it'll be TVC-equipped for sure with avionics comparable to the 37 demo model. LOL, no :D open your eyes :D Horse=F-16, Mule=Su-30. .
tflash Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 What I like about the proliferation of Su-30 is that it is such a beautiful plane. So, I also vote for a nice paintjob! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
NY3D Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Oh Lord..... This is going to be quite an experience for the pilots that are use to the western technology.But what I wanna know is does the president realize how much its gonna cost to train these pilots,also money for simulators and the works that go along with it.??I really wanna see how this turns out,sounds like a real challenge to me,also wish no pilots get hurt in this phase of their training.I think this is a great opportunity to fly such a beautifull bird,man it would be nice if we had some SU-27's and 30's in our arsenal.Im not too crazy about our Invisible fighter,for $355 million a bird is to much for a fighter that aint even gonna be use for A2G missions...strictly a air superiority role.Dont get me wrong I think the Raptor is an excellent bird,I just dont think it's worth all that money.:pilotfly: Im not an expert,so my opinion carries very little weight.But these russian fighters are down right nasty,The last thing i wanna see on my tail is an SU-35 or 37.Has anyone seen these bad boys in action ??? They are DEADLY.Anyway thsnx for sharing the info,please keep us posted,you have better access to these articles...thanx for sharing.
RvETito Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 LOL, no :D open your eyes :D Horse=F-16, Mule=Su-30. No matter how hard I'm trying to "open" my eyes I see nothing but a quiet rediculous comparison. If you really think that the Su-30 is the mule and the F-16 is the horse- think again.:D "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
Pilotasso Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 This is going to be quite an experience for the pilots that are use to the western technology.But what I wanna know is does the president realize how much its gonna cost to train these pilots,also money for simulators and the works that go along with it.??I really wanna see how this turns out,sounds like a real challenge to me,also wish no pilots get hurt in this phase of their training.I think this is a great opportunity to fly such a beautifull bird,man it would be nice if we had some SU-27's and 30's in our arsenal.Im not too crazy about our Invisible fighter,for $355 million a bird is to much for a fighter that aint even gonna be use for A2G missions...strictly a air superiority role.Dont get me wrong I think the Raptor is an excellent bird,I just dont think it's worth all that money.:pilotfly: Im not an expert,so my opinion carries very little weight.But these russian fighters are down right nasty,The last thing i wanna see on my tail is an SU-35 or 37.Has anyone seen these bad boys in action ??? They are DEADLY.Anyway thsnx for sharing the info,please keep us posted,you have better access to these articles...thanx for sharing. Depending on what it is included on the Su-30, it can be very cheap, infact, not much more expensive than new F-16's. I think the biggest difference for F-16 pilots is how differently the Su-30 flies. It wont be as easy as the F-16 and they will take some time to get used to not overcontroll it and dominate the extra inertia. In Operation I doubt the Su-30 will be better used than the F-16's for the simple reason that they wont be of much use against the rebels terrorizing the countries inhabitants against wich the Flacon had recieved litening POD's and LGB's. I realise the SU-30 can drop smart weapons but they are overkill and much less practical and difficult to use in that scenario when compared to the GBU-12. They will be there to pick on GWB, and if that comes to be a factor the SU-30 VS JDAM and the flanker looses. ;) .
Pilotasso Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 No matter how hard I'm trying to "open" my eyes I see nothing but a quiet rediculous comparison. If you really think that the Su-30 is the mule and the F-16 is the horse- think again.:D I did, the flanker wobbles alot more, like a stuborn mule. :D .
nscode Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 And while some people buy new birds, after 6+ months I saw a MiG-21 fly over me... think we finally got some fuel :D :D :( Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
mikoyan Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Depending on what it is included on the Su-30, it can be very cheap, infact, not much more expensive than new F-16's. I think the biggest difference for F-16 pilots is how differently the Su-30 flies. It wont be as easy as the F-16 and they will take some time to get used to not overcontroll it and dominate the extra inertia. In Operation I doubt the Su-30 will be better used than the F-16's for the simple reason that they wont be of much use against the rebels terrorizing the countries inhabitants against wich the Flacon had recieved litening POD's and LGB's. I realise the SU-30 can drop smart weapons but they are overkill and much less practical and difficult to use in that scenario when compared to the GBU-12. They will be there to pick on GWB, and if that comes to be a factor the SU-30 VS JDAM and the flanker looses. ;) Technicaly we can not tell that the su-30 is a mule or the f-16 a horse because non of us KNOW OR HAVE FLOWN A REAL JET , BUT ...the su-30 looks better than the f-16
mikoyan Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 .........and what is this guy (chavez) Going to do with the flankers , invade Colombia? to create his vision of La Gran Republica Bolivariana ? :noexpression:
Pilotasso Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Technicaly we can not tell that the su-30 is a mule or the f-16 a horse because non of us KNOW OR HAVE FLOWN A REAL JET , BUT ...the su-30 looks better than the f-16 Actualy I have someone on my family who does F-16. .
Shaman Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Actualy I have someone on my family who does F-16. but not latest Su-30, so how he could compare? BTW.. how the hell can you compare planes that are totally diffrent class. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Sleek Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 And while some people buy new birds, after 6+ months I saw a MiG-21 fly over me... think we finally got some fuel :D :D :( Lol :megalol: :thumbup: Be Good..Be Strong..:drink: ;)
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