Printed A10C manual

MAS · January 11, 2016

I will buy it for next Christmas, as it will be my longest book to fly with :)

Redglyph · January 11, 2016

Very well put.

I miss the days we had hardprinted manuals in the big boxes we carried home giving us something to read in the bus.

From all the sims i remember the most ofc Falcon 4.0, Flight of the intruder witch also had a copy of the book and the Manual from the A320 on the Amiga. It had the basic, relatively small manual and a yellow pages sized book with all airport charts from Europe from Jeppesen and an assortment of high altitude IFR charts.

As for the A10C manual, i suggest you print it out by yourself using spiral holes to bind it witch makes it allot easier to read. Instead of the spirals though i use cable ties. They never break loose and look cool as a bible out of a Mad Max film.

HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS

Microprose had a great manual, very well done. I'm tempted to buy the BMS 4.33 upates, also available at Lulu.com. Graphically it's not really up-to-date, especially the landscape, but the dynamic campain, the ATC, the updated flight model and cockpit, plus all the little details make it still worthy.

About printing the A-10C manual oneself, that's an expensive experience if you take the cartridges, printer wear and paper into account. I'm not sure that's cheaper than buying the colour version.

pelton · January 14, 2016

Lulu colour manual

Received this today. It's a huge price but around 20% larger page size and twice as thick and hard bound. It's beautiful, I dread to think how much I've spent on this Sim since the LOMAC days!

NineLine · January 14, 2016

Ok, will look into it.

Havent forgotten about this, in fact I was able to fix them, I just need to see if ED can do the same, or I can see if its ok for me to load them here.

hansangb · January 14, 2016

Thanks for this! I just ordered my copy.

dAsReLiCT · January 14, 2016

Who doesn't remember this manual beauty :thumbup:

I got it here, loved this manual and loved this game

pelton · January 17, 2016

Colour Manual from Lulu

Its a beast but great for reading away from a screen.

Vandal71 · January 17, 2016

Havent forgotten about this, in fact I was able to fix them, I just need to see if ED can do the same, or I can see if its ok for me to load them here.

Thanks SiTh,

I am also interested in printing the F-15C manual.

Jateu · January 17, 2016

How much was it?

cichlidfan · January 17, 2016

Paperback (Black & White) is $29.99 (on the left in pelton's pic)

http://www.lulu.com/us/en/shop/eagle-dynamics/dcs-a-10c-warthog-manual/paperback/product-20469424.html

Hardback (Full Color) is $199.99 (on the right)

http://www.lulu.com/us/en/shop/eagle-dynamics/dcs-a-10c-warthog-manual-hardcover/hardcover/product-20474100.html

EDIT: I would like a copy of the third item in his pic!!!

Edited January 17, 2016 by cichlidfan

Johnny Dioxin · January 17, 2016

About printing the A-10C manual oneself, that's an expensive experience if you take the cartridges, printer wear and paper into account. I'm not sure that's cheaper than buying the colour version.

I printed the original myself - and the Ka-50, the FC ones (all of them).

then I found myself a nice 10inch tablet for reading pdf's on the move and now I only print the quickstart manuals.

I still take them everywhere with me - doctor's surgery, hospital (I have a lot of such appointments - bain of having expensive and controlled medication), even took one to my M.O.T. and read it in the clothing section of the bike shop!

My last GP (doctor) was a sim fan, too, and we'd sit going through various manuals and chatting about the latest news at my appointments - no wonder they are always late!

cichlidfan · January 17, 2016

Using my HP Color Laserjet, it wasn't cheap but it didn't cost me half of $200. As for printer wear, 700 pages is nothing for that type of printer. It's current print count is well over 5000 pages.

pelton · January 18, 2016

Pilot's manual also from Lulu, its the A-10A rather than A-10C though.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/united-states-air-force/a-10-thunderbolt-ii-pilots-flight-manual/paperback/product-2496428.html

Much of the DCS documentation comes verbatim from this document.

Johnny Dioxin · January 18, 2016

What puts me off ordering the ones already available from lulu is that they are over 3 years old.

Redglyph · January 18, 2016

Using my HP Color Laserjet, it wasn't cheap but it didn't cost me half of $200. As for printer wear, 700 pages is nothing for that type of printer. It's current print count is well over 5000 pages.

It's quite close if I do the maths:

- the book is 126.88€ plus shipping costs, so 133.87 € minimum.

- it will consume about 55% of the cartridges, which cost (when I last replaced them) 245€ the set.

That's about the same either way, without counting the paper, binding, energy, time, wear, ... venting the room which will stink of ink ;) - which probably doesn't hugely increase the cost.

Close enough I guess, I thought it was less advantageous.

For smaller books like the BMS Falcon, the Lulu prices are more interesting, probably easier for them to manufacture.

What puts me off ordering the ones already available from lulu is that they are over 3 years old.

Good point. And since there's no version number in ED's manuals it's hard to know whether they're up-to-date, which has always bothered me. But was there an update of the A-10C documentation? All I see in the pdf document properties is "Flight Manual .09", and that it was created on 27 August 2012; the one on Lulu has this tag: [082712]. So they should be the same.

NineLine · January 18, 2016

Good point. And since there's no version number in ED's manuals it's hard to know whether they're up-to-date, which has always bothered me. But was there an update of the A-10C documentation? All I see in the pdf document properties is "Flight Manual .09", and that it was created on 27 August 2012; the one on Lulu has this tag: [082712]. So they should be the same.

Version numbers would be nice, but you can look at the info for the PDF in acrobat as far as creation date.

Pineapple Pete · January 18, 2016

Sent you a PM

Redglyph · January 19, 2016

Version numbers would be nice, but you can look at the info for the PDF in acrobat as far as creation date.

Yes, that's what I did here ;)

I'm usually not comfortable with that because that info is not as accessible, also two different dates doesn't necessarily mean two different versions and the other way round. Finally, you don't know the differences between different documents either, nor which version of the product it's referring to; when I create manuals I usually put a version and a history, for the user's sake and also to avoid mixing things up.

NineLine · January 19, 2016

Yes, I would prefer version numbers and revision doc on pages that changed when changes are made, but I might be asking alot :)

cichlidfan · January 19, 2016

Yes, I would prefer version numbers and revision doc on pages that changed when changes are made, but I might be asking alot :)

You must be correct, considering how long we have been asking for it.

Redglyph · January 23, 2016

I received the BMS manuals today - I'm still hesitating about the A-10C, either to buy it b&w or to print the part that I'm really interested in.

They did a very good work, good quality print (this is in colour) and it was pretty quick, I had them in less than one week though that might not be the case when they're overworked.

I think it would be better to get an unbound print, maybe in a binder it would be more convenient to use or with a spiral binding instead of glued spine, keeping the books open to use it while operating on the aircraft is a bit awkward.

The website has some slight issues with information links leading to authentication problems, but the ordering part is straightforward. The support is very responsive and on point. I had some reservations as in the past I bought an electronic book and was disappointed to see it had the annoying print marks with borders and all, but it turned out it was just a botched job from its author (namely the web2py's creator).

I recommend :)

Pineapple Pete · January 26, 2016

If anyone wants a manual PM me....I bought 2 by mistake....I will sell it for $20.00 plus shipping.

Steve

Hi there I sent a pm a few days ago but if you still have the manual for sale, I am ready.

Steve (also)

Matt18C · January 26, 2016

Sent the A-10C PDF manual to this site for Coil Binding, Color, House Laser Gloss 100# TEXT, for $154. Paper is thick so they Split the book into Two.

http://www.shortrunprintingltd.com/Quote/index.php

NineLine · January 26, 2016

Sent the A-10C PDF manual to this site for Coil Binding, Color, House Laser Gloss 100# TEXT, for $154. Paper is thick so they Split the book into Two.

http://www.shortrunprintingltd.com/Quote/index.php

Why such thick paper?

Matt18C · January 30, 2016

Why such thick paper?

Had the P-51D, F-15C, And Uh-1 printed this way and liked how it turned out. Had to split the A-10C Manual into three. Also like this since I can study one at a time. Paper is think, but the quality of how it looks was worth it for me.

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