NooB: I fly terrible in A10 and F15...am I missing something?

[--Randy--]

I am new to FC3 but am a real world pilot and fly Flight Simulator a lot.

 

The flight characteristics of FC3 are terrible. The planes wiggle and wobble all over the place and it is impossible to hold it straight to shoot at anything.....am I missing some kind of setting to settle these planes down?

 

Thanks for any help.

[Texac]

Well here you are flying high maneuverable Fighter aircrafts in the best combat Simulator... I think you just have to learn how to fly these planes. Im playing DCS since 3-4 months it was my first simulator and I have no problems flying these planes expect the Sukhoi aircrafts.

[Angel101]

Check your setting and axis of your joy in the options tab. I find F-15C very stable.

[--Randy--]

Thanks...will give it a try.

[ShuRugal]

As others mentioned, these are very high-performance aircraft. I'm sure, as a pilot, you are familiar with the concept of "less is more" when controlling an aircraft? It applies double to these birds.

 

Best thing to do is go into your axis settings and set all your axis to have 15% curvature to them. This will soften your input around center. Also, set dead zone as small as possible (i use zero deadzone with my X55) to give yourself more precise control.

[--Randy--]

Thanks ShuRugal....I also have an X-55....will try it right now.

 

Much better....thanks a lot guys.

Edited January 16, 2016 by --Randy--

[scarecrow101]

Flaps up?

 

Wheels up?

 

Air brake on?

[--Randy--]

Air Brake ON????

 

Really?

 

Will give it a try.

 

Too bad about the Chiefs yesterday.

[Ultra]

You might need to just get used to the way DCS handles. Since real world movements don't translate correctly to a game joystick, there's some muscle memory involved unique to DCS, I think.

[Ironhand]

I am new to FC3 but am a real world pilot and fly Flight Simulator a lot.

 

The flight characteristics of FC3 are terrible. The planes wiggle and wobble all over the place and it is impossible to hold it straight to shoot at anything.....am I missing some kind of setting to settle these planes down?

 

Thanks for any help.

If you are still having issues, you might want to save and upload a short flight as an example of what you're experiencing. To save a track, when you hit ESC to exit the mission, the next screen you come to will have a SAVE TRACK button just above the FLY AGAIN button. Just click SAVE TRACK and follow the prompts.

 

To upload it here, write your message and click the paper clip icon on the message options bar.

 

Rich

[--Randy--]

I found out that if I set the Curvature settings in Axis Tune for Pitch, Roll and Rudder to +30 that the A-10A and the F15Cfly like a dream. I don't get all the rocking back and forth every time I touch my joystick or rudder like I was getting.

 

Thanks for all your help everyone.

[Ironhand]

I found out that if I set the Curvature settings in Axis Tune for Pitch, Roll and Rudder to +30 that the A-10A and the F15Cfly like a dream. I don't get all the rocking back and forth every time I touch my joystick or rudder like I was getting.

 

Thanks for all your help everyone.

Great! glad you got it sorted. Enjoy the sim.

[ShuRugal]

Glad to hear you found a setting that works. That's really the biggest hurdle in DCS: finding input sensitivities that smoothly translate the 3-4 inches of travel a PC joystick has into the 5-8 inches a real flight stick would.

[Eihort]

Best thing about the Su-27: It will do whatever you tell it to.

 

Worst thing about the Su-27: It will do whatever you tell it to.

[Angel101]

Best thing about the Su-27: It will do whatever you tell it to.

 

Worst thing about the Su-27: It will do whatever you tell it to.

 

 

:megalol::megalol::megalol:

[jcbak]

When setting up an aircraft's controls, you need to clear each category on the controls menu. If you didn't, you could find that you have pitch mapped to each controller instead of just your joystick. Same thing with all other axis controls. I would double check your control settings to be sure that isn't the case.

[JazonXD]

Best thing about the Su-27: It will do whatever you tell it to.

 

Worst thing about the Su-27: It will do whatever you tell it to.

 

It will do whatever you tell it to 30x if you have direct control on... and remember to map that trim hat kids, cause you'll need it :D

[PiedDroit]

Air Brake ON????

 

Really?

 

Will give it a try.

 

Too bad about the Chiefs yesterday.

 

lol do not try that :)

better put it that way: is your airbrake on? put it off.

[NeilWillis]

There is always a period of getting the feel for things, and setting up controllers so they do what you want them to. Also, whenever you get a new module, you have to spend a few minutes setting up the control inputs, because there are always duplications - probably because we all have multiple controllers. It all just makes it very hard to jump into a pit and go flying. Add to that, the fact that some of the modules have some very sophisticated flight modelling, and you have a recipe for a lot of frustration at first.

 

When you get it right though, it's excellent stuff.

 

Best advice is to stick at it, and don't worry if you end up ploughing into the ground a lot. We have the luxury of hitting Esc and starting over. It just takes a little perseverance to master it.

[RazorTM]

It will do whatever you tell it to 30x if you have direct control on... and remember to map that trim hat kids, cause you'll need it :D

 

You reminded me... I was looking for a way to reset the trim to neutral/takeoff trim but couldn't find it in game. Guess it doesn't exist?

 

Edit: actually, I've been playing nothing but SU-25T lately so it might only be that module

Edited January 20, 2016 by RazorTM

[scarecrow101]

I set the trim after I clean up the SU-25T, no flaps, wheels up, NO air brake, and it is pretty squirrely at times. You can't over fly the aircraft, it will rip the wings off or lose all lift. It is hard to fly in a steep dive.

 

Maybe it because I have never looked to see what the curvature settings in Axis Tune are. I need to check into that.

[PiedDroit]

You reminded me... I was looking for a way to reset the trim to neutral/takeoff trim but couldn't find it in game. Guess it doesn't exist?

 

Edit: actually, I've been playing nothing but SU-25T lately so it might only be that module

 

Use the level autopilot on the SU-25T to trim it (LAlt+3 I think). The autopilot will trim it for you, just make sure to enable while flying straight, it will settle more easily.

Other planes have a trim recenter function.

[Vitormouraa]

What problems are you having with F-15C? The easiest aircraft in DCS to fly is the F-15! so I don't see reasons. as you said, you are a pilot, you know how to pilot an aircraft, and you use FSX as well, so, knowing that, what exactly are you having? Well, the Su-27S is a bit different, because you have to use a lot, every single time the Trim.

[golani79]

I found out that if I set the Curvature settings in Axis Tune for Pitch, Roll and Rudder to +30 that the A-10A and the F15Cfly like a dream. I don't get all the rocking back and forth every time I touch my joystick or rudder like I was getting.

 

Thanks for all your help everyone.

 

Could probably also be a missing deadzone - I´m also using a X55 and my stick is slightly loose on the X axis in the center.

So it more or less makes inputs all the time if you don´t hold it 100% accurate in the center.

This gave me a very unstable performance for the planes but setting a small deadzone fixed this for me.

 

Could be worth for you checking out.

[Oceandar]

I tried flying Su-27 with keyboard the other day and I'm surprised to see how stable it flies. I could maintain steady turn and I didn't even need to trimm it. I also noticed the joystick will keep maintain its position when I give it input for up or down. I just hope my X52 could that....sorry for the OT

 

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