SkateZilla Posted July 8, 2016 Author Posted July 8, 2016 I don't want to sound pessimistic but I'm starting to lose hope that ED will make this game better. I seems like every new version that comes out is worse than the last as far as fps. They say they got all the bugs fixed in this version and released it to the public today but the forum is riddled with posts about 1.5.4 being broken. I hope next time I startup DCS world I have an option NOT to update to 1.5.4. Can someone tell me how I can keep it from updating I don't want what I have to get worse. Not updating option is an obvious Button on the update prompt. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Gliptal Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Im not re producing the track IR Face in the HUD problem here, nor the offset positions. This received ALOT of attention. Before you go criticizing testers.I wasn't criticizing anyone, I'm sure the testers are working at the best of their ability. Still, issues are bleeding through for a lot of people, hence something wrong is happening somewhere down the line. EDIT: Look, I'm sorry, as a programmer myself I have a lot of respect for you guys, testers and devs. It's just I came home after a long day hoping to fly around, and ended up fighting and dealing with bugs and bug reports instead. Edited July 8, 2016 by Gliptal
Bluelight Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 What are your specs? You're gonna see a different regardless. 1.5.3 MiG-29A = 6,402 Polygons 1.5.4 MiG-29A = 441,153 Polygons WHY!?!?!?!? Skate, please tell me the logic behind increasing the poly count of a model SO much when the game engine is only using half of most people's GPU to render the model and not running the main CPU core at 100% either?? I wish you would look at my thread about this with the videos I showed running MSI afterburner proving it. Unless 1.5.4 is going to run a gpu at 99% like most other games, how could such a huge increase in polys do anything but hurt the performance of the game... especially in VR where every little FPS matters? HTC Vive, Saitek X52 Pro, i7-950 Overclocked to 4ghz, Noctua NH-D14 cooler, ASRock x58 Extreme MB, EVGA GTX 970 FTW, 24GB G Skill Sniper DDR3 1600 RAM, EVGA 650-GQ (650 watts) PSU, Windows 10 Home
Gliptal Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 WHY!?!?!?!? Skate, please tell me the logic behind increasing the poly count of a model SO much when the game engine is only using half of most people's GPU to render the model and not running the main CPU core at 100% either?? I wish you would look at my thread about this with the videos I showed running MSI afterburner proving it. Unless 1.5.4 is going to run a gpu at 99% like most other games, how could such a huge increase in polys do anything but hurt the performance of the game... especially in VR where every little FPS matters?I'm not an expert in modeling, but nowadays I really don't think 400.000 polygons are that many. Having played around with Maya myself, I'm actually surprised they managed such a good looking aircraft with only 6000.
SkateZilla Posted July 8, 2016 Author Posted July 8, 2016 WHY!?!?!?!? Skate, please tell me the logic behind increasing the poly count of a model SO much when the game engine is only using half of most people's GPU to render the model and not running the main CPU core at 100% either?? I wish you would look at my thread about this with the videos I showed running MSI afterburner proving it. Unless 1.5.4 is going to run a gpu at 99% like most other games, how could such a huge increase in polys do anything but hurt the performance of the game... especially in VR where every little FPS matters? 500K is AvG for 2010 3D Models. the old MiG 29 Model was from Lock On, very very old. As for the GPU usage, that issue is a draw command overflow issue not a polygon rendering issue. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Bluelight Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 500K is AvG for 2010 3D Models. the old MiG 29 Model was from Lock On, very very old. As for the GPU usage, that issue is a draw command overflow issue not a polygon rendering issue. Well that makes sense, long over due on that model. I would really appreciate it if you could pop over to my thread about performance and help us with this draw command thing when you have a moment. I really want to get some answers to questions there and hopefully a solution. Thanks http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=169738 HTC Vive, Saitek X52 Pro, i7-950 Overclocked to 4ghz, Noctua NH-D14 cooler, ASRock x58 Extreme MB, EVGA GTX 970 FTW, 24GB G Skill Sniper DDR3 1600 RAM, EVGA 650-GQ (650 watts) PSU, Windows 10 Home
RivalryRUS Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Power lines disappeared for me. Flying under the power lines was one of my favorite things to do in DCS, but for some reason after update they became not visible. Does anybody else have this?
Knock-Knock Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Power lines disappeared for me. Flying under the power lines was one of my favorite things to do in DCS, but for some reason after update they became not visible. Does anybody else have this? Yea, gone for me too. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals |
SkateZilla Posted July 8, 2016 Author Posted July 8, 2016 Yea, gone for me too. Power lines disappeared for me. Flying under the power lines was one of my favorite things to do in DCS, but for some reason after update they became not visible. Does anybody else have this? PowerLines and fences etc, already reported. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
scotchegg Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Interesting to see the Mig29A update. Does this mean a standalone release is closer?
Barao Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I have a doubt: I don't have VR Headset, now we have a new option about this kind of equipment and for default the option "enable virtual reality headset" is set, I need to disable this. Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
Bluelight Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I have a doubt: I don't have VR Headset, now we have a new option about this kind of equipment and for default the option "enable virtual reality headset" is set, I need to disable this. Pretty sure it doesn't affect anything if you don't have a VR headset. Don't worry about it. HTC Vive, Saitek X52 Pro, i7-950 Overclocked to 4ghz, Noctua NH-D14 cooler, ASRock x58 Extreme MB, EVGA GTX 970 FTW, 24GB G Skill Sniper DDR3 1600 RAM, EVGA 650-GQ (650 watts) PSU, Windows 10 Home
dburne Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I have a doubt: I don't have VR Headset, now we have a new option about this kind of equipment and for default the option "enable virtual reality headset" is set, I need to disable this. I saw that as well and disabled mine first thing. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
cichlidfan Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I saw that as well and disabled mine first thing. Just like FFB, it should not be enabled by default in the first place. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Barao Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Thanks:thumbup: Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
SkateZilla Posted July 8, 2016 Author Posted July 8, 2016 Just like FFB, it should not be enabled by default in the first place. If a Supported Devices is not Detected during boot up, then the Value has no Effect, so it's not enabled. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Barao Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) If a Supported Devices is not Detected during boot up, then the Value has no Effect, so it's not enabled. But it is checked, VR. I saw problems (I have logs): 1) TrackIR was horrible if I enable full screen (Alt Enter) with nvidia Adaptive (Half Refresh Rate 1/2) Vsync 2) TrackIR center makes the vision get up I also saw that the Su-25T flies more smoothly now. Edited July 9, 2016 by Barao Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
sazerituop Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 I don't have yet the update on my system. I'm still on 1.5.3 but the dcs updater is skipping the update like if there was no current update. Any help would be appreciated. Thk
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 9, 2016 ED Team Posted July 9, 2016 I don't have yet the update on my system. I'm still on 1.5.3 but the dcs updater is skipping the update like if there was no current update. Any help would be appreciated. Thk hi and welcome to the forum. if you look in your dcs directory you will find a file called autoupdate_log.txt attach it here it will give us some clues Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Whirley Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Like the new looks of the menus and all the nice improvements to the game. Awesome work, thanks to everyone involved!
sazerituop Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 hi and welcome to the forum. if you look in your dcs directory you will find a file called autoupdate_log.txt attach it here it will give us some clues Here is my autoupdate_log.txt, thanks for your help. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B13vJRFUh9uedm9WS0NVcHh2b1E
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 9, 2016 ED Team Posted July 9, 2016 Here is my autoupdate_log.txt, thanks for your help. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B13vJRFUh9uedm9WS0NVcHh2b1E Thanks, Strange, last update was 2016-05-27 from your log. Are you using the update shortcut from your windows start menu\programmes\eagle dynamics ? Things to try make sure dcs has admin rights add dcs to your anti virus exclusion / whitelist ( which antivirus are you using ? ) download and replace your updater here at the bottom of the page in case it has become corrupted http://updates.digitalcombatsimulator.com/ Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
sazerituop Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Thanks, Strange, last update was 2016-05-27 from your log. Are you using the update shortcut from your windows start menu\programmes\eagle dynamics ? Things to try make sure dcs has admin rights add dcs to your anti virus exclusion / whitelist ( which antivirus are you using ? ) download and replace your updater here at the bottom of the page in case it has become corrupted http://updates.digitalcombatsimulator.com/ Ok, so i'm not using the update shortcut from the windows start menu but directly from the DCS directory. DCS has the admin rights like also the updater. For the antivirus, i'm using the internal Windows Defender. I added DCS to the exclusions but it make the same thing. I replaced the updater and same thing.
sazerituop Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Ok, so i'm not using the update shortcut from the windows start menu but directly from the DCS directory. DCS has the admin rights like also the updater. For the antivirus, i'm using the internal Windows Defender. I added DCS to the exclusions but it make the same thing. I replaced the updater and same thing. SOLVED! i found the solution by reading this thread :. I think it could solve some update issues. You only need to force the updater to update to the last version by doing a command prompt as mentioned in the thread. Thank you BIGNEWY to spending time with me and thank you ED for this amazing flight sim. Wish you all the best !
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