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mytai01 · July 24, 2016

For those of you who have never used DCS with Oculus Rift or something else that works. I have to tell you that you have no idea what you are missing. Even if you've heard what you are missing, you still have no idea what you are missing. DCS on a monitor is crap compared to it in the VR world. If you have two nads, then sell one and get he cash to get the rig and VR headset to play DCS. You won't regret it!

My wife is very afraid of heights. She ripped the headset off when I put it on her head. Total immersion so real that you will forget where you really are and what time it really is.

Edited July 24, 2016 by mytai01

yellow_jacket · July 24, 2016

Flying at tree top level can't be expressed in words.

DirtyFret · July 24, 2016

I've been thinking about it but I am bit afraid of how the wifey will react. Still remember her reaction to my 4k 48" monitor/TV setup. :megalol:

In your experience how is the resolution with the head gear? I know the pixel amounts it produces per eye but in your personal view, is it the same or better than with a good (large) HD monitor or 4k?

Are there any noticeable differences to reading the gauges or spotting targets? How about motion sickness?

mr_mojo97 · July 24, 2016

Well, the resolution is terrible, don't expect it to be anywhere near your 4K. And you need to have labels on or your not going to see your opponent. BUT, vr at this post is all about being there. It's simply amazing.

Yeah, I still get option sickness sometimes, depending on what I'm doing, I'm trying to build up tolerance slowly.

Some are saying 3-5 years for the generation of vr to get to a 4K level. It's gonna depend on the cpu and gpu tech. I'm sure vr screens and tech are already available but no pc in the world will run them at a reasonable price point for general consumers at the moment. I'd say anyways.

Enduro14 · July 24, 2016

I would wait for second gen. Immersion is amazing yes but need more resolution to be fully mission capable.

_Randolph93 · July 25, 2016

Just wondering, as I haven't got the chance to try the oculus rift, the mentioned lack of resolution is perceived as blurry image or blocky edges ?

mytai01 · July 25, 2016

Where wife is concerned...man up! Blurry...a little but well worth the immersion. By the time the next version comes out you'll have enough money again. The blur isn't enough reason to wait.

mytai01 · August 17, 2016

My dogfighting skills have improved vastly thanks to being in a true VR environment. I've not plowed into the ground since and it has been mush easier to track the enemy!

HeadHunter52 · August 17, 2016

My next big purchase is the 4K display. My old eyes need help.

Lucky · August 17, 2016

I love the Rift. More times I catch myself reaching out to push a button or move a lever. As said before, there are tradeoffs. Resolution isn't as good as most of our monitors. I use a 28" 1920 x 1200. But, the immersion is incredible. The first thing I noticed going from Trackir 5 to the Rift was the feeling of actually sitting in the cockpit. With the Trackir, when I turned my head the whole screen moved including the cockpit. With the Rift, movememt is as natural as just turning your head in an actual cockpit. I also want to use it in other games as well. I have Elite Dangerous but have yet to really get into it. Can't wait for a decent FPS to use the Rift.

Hadwell · August 17, 2016

the problem with VR is, when you're playing against other people that actually can see stuff on a 2D monitor, while you're sitting there with all this immersion, but blind as a bat...

getting teamkills just because you want to use a VR headset is as unacceptable as getting teamkills because you don't want to learn how to IFF, or don't have the patience to get close enough to ID, or just don't care who or what you're shooting at, just wanna see explosions...

a flat panel monitor lets you actually see whats outside the cockpit other than ground and sky... and no ammount of immersion makes up for being as blind as this guy [ame]

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*Rage* · August 17, 2016

the problem with VR is, when you're playing against other people that actually can see stuff on a 2D monitor, while you're sitting there with all this immersion, but blind as a bat...

getting teamkills just because you want to use a VR headset is as unacceptable as getting teamkills because you don't want to learn how to IFF, or don't have the patience to get close enough to ID, or just don't care who or what you're shooting at, just wanna see explosions...

a flat panel monitor lets you actually see whats outside the cockpit other than ground and sky... and no ammount of immersion makes up for being as blind as...

I'm looking for a reason to not get into VR:) Would you say OR is still not combat ready? Is it a resolution issue (perhaps CV2 will remedy)?

Einherjer · August 17, 2016

the problem with VR is, when you're playing against other people that actually can see stuff on a 2D monitor, while you're sitting there with all this immersion, but blind as a bat...

getting teamkills just because you want to use a VR headset is as unacceptable as getting teamkills because you don't want to learn how to IFF, or don't have the patience to get close enough to ID, or just don't care who or what you're shooting at, just wanna see explosions...

a flat panel monitor lets you actually see whats outside the cockpit other than ground and sky... and no ammount of immersion makes up for being as blind as this guy

There are two different attitudes here.

There are people, playing dcs because flying is their passion, they want to simulate the feeling of flying an aircraft, in bad weather from a to b, or in combat with others or just acrobatics

And there are people they came here for competition, they want to compete with others in a match and win points or respect

The first one loves the VR headset, for the latter it is a handicap.

The first one also loves the L-39, the latter loves the F-15

And both can have fun here

Hadwell · August 17, 2016

There are two different attitudes here.

There are people, playing dcs because flying is their passion, they want to simulate the feeling of flying an aircraft, in bad weather from a to b, or in combat with others or just acrobatics

And there are people they came here for competition, they want to compete with others in a match and win points or respect

The first one loves the VR headset, for the latter it is a handicap.

The first one also loves the L-39, the latter loves the F-15

And both can have fun here

I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about the people who try to do both... VR isn't there yet...

Steel Jaw · August 17, 2016

Lemme know when the price drops to something reasonable.

Dav IRL · August 18, 2016

I am waiting for generation 2 but I am curious to experience it, I wonder if I will be able to help myself when they are for sale locally.

Zimmerdylan · August 19, 2016

Lemme know when the price drops to something reasonable.

My sentiments exactly. I fly DCS as an hour a night hobby. I have already put a lot of $$ into it as it stands. It may be worth it for these guys who put a lot of time into it, but to a guy like me, naaaa. I'm not even a little curious about it. I've heard the negative and the positive, and it's just not worth it at this point.

NeilWillis · August 19, 2016

Have to agree that the Rift or any other suitable VR system is the way to go in DCS World, and I put it down to something very fundamental. Would you rather be in the world, or outside, looking at it through a window? No matter how hi-res the window is, it is still a window.

VR has it's issues, of course, but despite that, it is definitely a huge leap forwards.

We would all of course like to see a much higher resolution display, and much better peripheral vision in a lighter, more comfortable headset, plus hand tracking to replace the mouse, but that will all come in time.

There is however, for me at least, no going back to flat screen 2D displays.

jcbak · August 19, 2016

I'm waiting for the next generation. Guys I've flown with that were using it in MP missions clearly have a disadvantage due to resolution issues. I'll wait and then figure something out about the motion sickness it can cause.

NeilWillis · August 19, 2016

The best cure for the motion sickness is exposure to the sensations you get in VR. I think, apart from a few exceptions, that acclimatization is probably the best cure.

There is no denying that the resolution is a big issue, but I have spotted aircraft at around 15 miles (the tanker at least). So to say that it isn't viable in multiplayer situations isn't really doing it justice. It has it's down sides, and it has it's up sides. On balance, the immersion of sitting inside a cockpit sways the argument totally into the VR camp as far as I am concerned.

I am happy to live with a few issues, and I will be placing my order for 2nd gen and 3rd gen equipment when they become available, but for now, CV1 VR is still the way to go in my opinion. I do of course respect the opinions of those that can't get along with it.

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