drPhibes Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 Today's rant: Is it just me, or are nearly all new threads on the forums (and not to mention the DCS FB group) pointless wishlists these days? "Belsimtek, please make acb", "Leatherneck, please make xyz" etc. Am I the only one who is really fed up with this? Is it right to "pollute" the forums with this, drowning out all other relevant and informative content?
OziRekt Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 ****s me off so much. Maybe just have one comprehensive wish list thread, and not allow any more. Maybe even one for all the third party devs at once. "We carried out many trials to try to find the answer to the fast, low-level intruder, but there is no adequate defense." — Air Vice-Marshal J. E. 'Johnnie' Johnson, RAF Can't charge us all
Aginor Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 Meh. it has always been that way and I got used to them over the years I guess. I do find them annoying sometimes, but banning is too much. So no. I'd like to have them in a central place, merged together. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
joey45 Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 Merge them in to one thread.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
MethWolf Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) I agree these don't belong in 3rd party forums. Discussion about what we want is fine, but "x dev make y" is getting annoying, especially when people seem to be confused as to which dev made what. Maybe just have one comprehensive wish list thread, and not allow any more. So no. I'd like to have them in a central place, merged together. Merge them in to one thread.. Setting up a katamari is a good way to make any discussion impossible. You might as well delete them. But we already have a place we could move these threads... That said, does this thread really need to be in the Belsimtek forum? edit: and does this really need to be a fake poll? I think we should ban polls in general from the forum, they're useless even when they are set up well. edit edit: and it looks like the mods have already been moving this stuff there. Edited September 13, 2016 by MethWolf
Aginor Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 well, wish lists aren't for discussions anyway, anyone just posts their favourite planes. So I would say a Katamari thread would be pretty ideal.... DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
MethWolf Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 People obviously like them and they aren't detrimental to when they are in the proper (wishlist) forum. No need to delete, ban, or katamari.
probad Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) wishlists alone are useless but harmless, whats worse are the polls and rallies and the expectations generated from apparent consensus. not talking about the op poll but more in general. Edited September 13, 2016 by probad 1
Wayc00lio Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 I'm quite looking forward to Belsimtek's acb. When is that due? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG Rampage Extreme VI; i9 7900X (all 10 cores at 4.5GHz); 32 Gb Corsair Dominator DDR4; EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid; 1Tb Samsung 960 Evo M2; 2Tb Samsung 850 Pro secondary. Oculus Rift; TM Warthog; Saitek Combat Pros.
MikeMikeJuliet Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Also, wishlists seem to ge flooded with unrealistic expectations on what can be made even optimistically. That, and or a useless collection of "I want THIS version of F-16". We should just for once be happy that this sim even exists in the first place. A ton of interesting aircraft coming in the future. DCS Finland | SF squadron
JNelson Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 'Wishlist will be banned in two weeks' Community A-4E-C
joey45 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Best get them while you can. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
crazyeddie Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 I wish I had £5 for every model request on every wishlist, AND another £5 for every new model that never see's the light at the end of the tunnel. I could stop playing DCS and buy a real aeroplane ... !!!!!!
cichlidfan Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) I wish I had £5 for every model request on every wishlist, AND another £5 for every new model that never see's the light at the end of the tunnel. I could stop playing DCS and buy a real aeroplane ... !!!!!! With that kind of money, you might be able to buy a small country, with an air force. ;) With regard to the OP, banning them is over the top. However, there should be increasing penalties for anyone who creates more than one 'wish list' thread outside of the the correct location. Especially for members who have been around for a while but appear to be unable to comprehend that there is a certain amount of structure and organization to the forum. Every time you see a thread marked 'Moved', someone had to manually relocate a misplaced thread. EDIT: I also think that people that post polls without a balanced set of responses, like this one, should be penalized. If you only want responses from those that agree with you then the poll, and your post, are pretty much pointless. Edited September 14, 2016 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Grimes Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 At their best its just a post to try and raise awareness of something doable like a 'quality of life' feature request or anything relatively small scale. At their worst its a low effort post for a major feature, usually an aircraft, that will inevitably create a side tracked discussion. There isn't a whole lot of harm from either end of the spectrum. When did "Katamari" enter the nomenclature for a forum post? I assume its basically the same as a mega thread or something similar, but I've never seen it used that way. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
Aginor Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 The word is based on a popular console game called Katamari Damacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari_Damacy In that game you have to roll around, accumulating more and more material, avoiding stuff that is bigger than you, until you are huge and can swallow everything. I've first seen it as a word for merging several threads into one huge thread a few years ago. One huge thread swallows all the small ones, which is similar to the gameplay of that game. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
MikeMikeJuliet Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 Well, now we know. I don't really mind wishlists, but I do mind 1) wishlist type posts/comments that clearly show no understanding of the subject matter (i.e. have no idea what they are really asking for). The same with criticism: if you want to change something, you need solid arguments. 2) speaking of criticism, I don't like it one bit when feature requests are stomped to the ground by "get good or get lost" attitude. 3) every single wishlist seems to snowball out of control with zero regards to the original title or post. This is especially the case with aircraft wishlists, not as much with features. There should probably be something done on those fronts, if that's even possible... DCS Finland | SF squadron
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