Fubuki Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I don't know if this is a bug or the actual F-5E have this issue, the attitude indicator will become inaccurate after some maneuvers, even you made a shallow continuous bank on one side for a while the attitude indicator will incline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoGas Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Same here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolfo Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Old instruments do drift, you have a fast erect button next to the ADI should you wish to correct it; just note that the photo posted looks about right, ADI consistent with visual horizon and radar horizon. The standby horizon is left caged in the photo? There is a red flag showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoGas Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Old instruments do drift, you have a fast erect button next to the ADI should you wish to correct it; just note that the photo posted looks about right, ADI consistent with visual horizon and radar horizon. The standby horizon is left caged in the photo? There is a red flag showing. You mean a Gyro drift! If a horizon instrument hooks up...you stay in the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolfo Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 You mean a Gyro drift! If a horizon instrument hooks up...you stay in the ground... If you are still on the ground and you have a choice, then yes, of course. In our example I believe it happens after airborne, quite often too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 While the attitude indicator can get inaccurate after heavy maneuvering, the one we currently have in F-5 is pretty bad. It has exactly the same error rate as the backup ADI, which, obviously, wouldn't happen in real life. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries144 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Yeah, this doesn't seem correct. What's the point of a backup that experiences the same error all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Well, it might be a problem, but the back up ADI needs to be uncaged! Gyro drift under heavy manoeuvreing is definitely something to be aware of. As for both instruments having identical errors - clearly not true to prototype. I'd like to test it a little more before I come to a conclusion on that. Would we go as far as declaring it a bug? I believe they behave as totally separate entities in the A-10C, so it should be possible in the F-5E3 as well. So yes, I would see that as a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoGas Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Seems to be fixed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries144 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Seems to be fixed ! Was there an update I didn't catch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 It's still the same, at least in 1.5.6. Just make one 180 turn or Immelman after take off, and the ADI becomes erratic. Which is more annoying is that if the pitch information is wrong, then the radar antenna is not levelled correctly. Funny though, netiher L-39 or MiG-21 have this issue, despite being equipped with a simpler AGD-1 gyro horizon instead of integrated AHRS unit like F-5. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Case Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Still present, even when flying smooth IFR it can't do the job properly. http://www.masterarms.se A Swedish Combat Flight Simulator Community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golo Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 You know el. gyro-motor of the attitude indicators needs some time to spin up after start up? Are you giving it enough time to spin up to working condition? My F-5 startups usually last about 10 min since switching battery on with all the checks and so and I have never had problems with attitude indicators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Case Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Giving the gyros a long time for spin up doesn't help, it still topples after an IFR departure with speed below 250 knots and less than 30 degrees of bank. http://www.masterarms.se A Swedish Combat Flight Simulator Community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cicimicikiller Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Any news on this? Attitude indicator is basically useless right now (1.5.6) Smash 1-1 | Hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid84 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I have experienced the same issue both on 1.5 and 2.1. Main attitude indicator, backup ADI and radar antenna becomes inaccurate after several minutes of flight. I5-7600K@4,8Ghz - G Skill TridentZ 16Gb 3200 CL14 - Aorus GTX 1080TI - Samsung 950 PRO 512GB NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 - Lenovo 24'' 1440p - Hotas Warthog - TrackIR 5 DCS 2.5 OB - M2000C - Mig21Bis - A10C - FC3 - AJS37 Viggen - F5E - AV8B N/A - F/A18 C - L 39 Albatros - Bf109 - Spitfire - P51D - Black Shark 2 - Nevada - Persian Gulf - Normandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Horizontal, high AoA maneuvers seems to generate the error faster. Maybe it's supposed to be like this, but it doesn't make it less annoying. I have experienced the same issue both on 1.5 and 2.1. Main attitude indicator, backup ADI and radar antenna becomes inaccurate after several minutes of flight. They all, AFAIK, get information from the same gyro. Someone correct me if i am wrong. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cicimicikiller Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Still not fixed Smash 1-1 | Hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Still not fixed :( Just tried, and even during a normal traffic pattern with 30° AOB turns the attitude indicator is wrong after touchdown. Pitch error of 8° after nosewheel touchdown. i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 31, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hey guys, I cant replicate, can you guys give me a track? I am especially interested in seeing the error after a normal traffic pattern. Thanks! Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex854Warrior Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Hey guys, I cant replicate, can you guys give me a track? I am especially interested in seeing the error after a normal traffic pattern. Thanks! I will try to provide one today, maybe with a video, what do you want me to do in it ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted August 2, 2018 ED Team Share Posted August 2, 2018 I will try to provide one today, maybe with a video, what do you want me to do in it ? The F-5, are you seeing it in other things as well? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex854Warrior Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) The F-5, are you seeing it in other things as well? Well in the F-5 it's a problem but I didn't notice it in any other aircraft that I own. I would like to know if the same bug happens in the F-86F, being the closest aircraft to the F-5. Edited August 2, 2018 by Rex854Warrior [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex854Warrior Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) Here is the video, it's a "Quick" flight from Kerman to Bandar Abbas, with a few hard maneuvers. Loaded with 100% Internal fuel, 3x150Gal Tanks and 2xAIM-9P5. I do adjust the ADI a few times, after takeoff is the where is saw a ridiculous amount of error (around 9°), it seems to accumulate error particularly at low speeds. ${1} EDIT : Forgot to save the track like an idiot. This isn't really a very good report, I'll try to make something shorter and that showcases the problem instead of having 30 minutes of raw footage. Edited August 2, 2018 by Rex854Warrior [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) Hey guys, I cant replicate, can you guys give me a track? I am especially interested in seeing the error after a normal traffic pattern. Thanks! Here it's is (and it also shows that the previously fixed gear warning bug is back) The pitch error seems to start already when rolling out on final at approx 700ft and becomes more noticable at 500ft. Couldn't get the total error to exceed 5° on the first try, but I think it shows the problem(s).F5_AI_bug.trk Edited August 3, 2018 by bbrz i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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