Weasel Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Hi all Just read an interesting article about an upcomming new huge 49" QLED HDR 144 Hz Gaming Monitor from Samsung with FreeSync 2: http://www.144hzmonitors.com/reviews/samsung-c49hg90-review-c27hg70-c32hg70/ What do you think about it? Cheers Weasel Edited June 12, 2017 by Weasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backy 51 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Nice, but very expensive compared to similar 4K HDTV options. I don't need no stinkin' GPS! (except for PGMs :D) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sea2sky Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 just 1080 vertically?? i5-9600K@4.8GHz ★ 32Gb DDR4 ★ Asus TUF rtx3080 OC ★ Quest Pro ★ Warthog on Virpil base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Nice, but very expensive compared to similar 4K HDTV options. what I was thinking too. Nice looking monitor. I would probably pay 1/2 that price for it. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadwell Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 TVs generally have a lot slower processors, and you get a huge delay between when you press a button and the screen actually showing it... your average PC monitor has around a 4ms delay, your average TV has between a 20 and 50ms delay My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) TVs generally have a lot slower processors, and you get a huge delay between when you press a button and the screen actually showing it... your average PC monitor has around a 4ms delay, your average TV has between a 20 and 50ms delay +1....actually plus 1k !!! Input lag is your worst enemy in DCS, racing sims, FPS etc. Come and play at 144Hz Gsynced and then move back to the TV, you will feel like set back to stoneage, hands down. TV's use a variety of embedded chips to enhance the picture quality, thus the signal gets delayed by a few ms within every chip. To correct this issue ( which is no issue if you watch a DVD or TV etc.. ) most TV's feature a GAME MODE. What this is is pretty simple, it TURNS OFF all those chips and bypasses those circuits to save those few milliseconds. I have a TV, played on it a few weeks and NAAAHH what a BS !! Like Day & Night compared to my Gsync 144Hz screen with 1ms GTG. With good systems and fast FPS you can get a frametime around 7ms. If your TV has a higher input lag then your frametime then....HELLO UGLY GAMEPLAY. You always have a delay into the next frame..hmmmm that is ok for round based games or Desktop usage but not for fast pace games. If that TV is "made" for gaming, then it should have very little GTG response time, no lag on its circuit board due to useless chips etc.. *edit: followed the link: 144Hz, yes..but still...I would not buy a TV for gaming unless I had tested it 1st hand. For that much money you can buy an Asus 4K Gsync HDR screen, curved...anything. Edited June 13, 2017 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konovalov Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 TV's are great for consol gaming and that is about it. As mentioned earlier response times on TV's suck. If they were so great then we all would have gone out and bought a 40 to 50" TV to flight sim on. Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David OC Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 My Sony BRAVIA does a half decent job in sim with it's built in Motionflow 200Hz Still no where near my ASUS 144Hz 1ms. Older pic before 2.1 i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston 60 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Nice, but very expensive compared to similar 4K HDTV options. Does any 4K HDTV have a 32:9 aspect ratio or even 21:9? CPU: i7 980x @ 4.2GHz RAM: 24gb Corsair Vengeance MB: Gigabyte Sniper X58 w/onboard Soundblaster X-Fi HD: SanDisk 480gb SSD OS: Win7 Pro 64bit VIDEO CARD: EVGA GTX 980ti FTW MONITOR: LG 34" Ultrawide 2560x1080 MP SERVER: ibuypower i7-4810MQ w/Win7 Home 64bit GEAR: Saitek X-52 Pro; Combat Rudder Pedals; Throttle Quadrants. Thrustmaster MFD's, TrackIR 5 w/Pro Clip, Turtle Beach X-12 Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Does any 4K HDTV have a 32:9 aspect ratio or even 21:9? Wouldn't 32:9 be the least one wants for DCS ? I can see the benefit for DiRT4 or F1-2016 but not for "us" who need to look down at the gauges and outside !? I would even prefer a 4:3 ratio of my screen just for the gauges, like 2560x1920. But hey, we are a colourful bunch and taste does differ :thumbup: Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 32:9? Good for cars racing but not for flight sim when the vertical view is what you need. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 32:9? Good for cars racing but not for flight sim when the vertical view is what you need. I have been saying that about UW monitors since they first came out. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 32:9? Good for cars racing but not for flight sim when the vertical view is what you need. YOU SEE !!! There are things we both can agree on ! haha :smilewink: Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Pre ordered already. Expected June 20th. This definition and ratio totally make sense for simulation. I have been flying 3840x1080 on triple screen for years. Of course, I am using a 4th screen for the panel otherwise, indeed you would have to choose between looking outside and looking at your instruments. https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 Pre ordered already. Expected June 20th. This definition and ratio totally make sense for simulation. I have been flying 3840x1080 on triple screen for years. Of course, I am using a 4th screen for the panel otherwise, indeed you would have to choose between looking outside and looking at your instruments. I'm very interested in your experiences with this 49" monitor, please keep us informed :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Pre ordered already. Expected June 20th. This definition and ratio totally make sense for simulation. I have been flying 3840x1080 on triple screen for years. Of course, I am using a 4th screen for the panel otherwise, indeed you would have to choose between looking outside and looking at your instruments. Interesting setup indeed ! I assume the 4th screen down low is also not of the smallest resolution, so may I ask what GPU you are using to drive all those panels on ? I thought about Multi Monitor too but I neither have the space for 3 x 27" nor do I think I would like it. Never liked two screens for the PC either. VR will fit into my space and may be my next "monitor" choice for DCS once they as well as GPUs have matured a bit further. Still, I guess its a blast with 3 x 4k :pilotfly: Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Right now I am flying this: You can easily imagine the three center screens will be replaced by the 49 inches. The instrument panels are using Helios. So there no need to generate a picture here (except for some displays, but it is limited), it's very light on the CPU/GPU. All the current screens are touch screens. With the 49', I will move the remaining screens for Helios. I am thinking two at the bottom, one for the overhead and one for the pedestal on the left. I am still not sure how I will do that though. :| https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Fu$$ing NICE MAN !!!!!! I dream of such a place, hidden deeep in the cellar where kids no find me for hours ! HAHA Keep that spirit alive :thumbup: edit*: dumb question...how do you connect that many screens ?? Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remon Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 +1....actually plus 1k !!! Input lag is your worst enemy in DCS, racing sims, FPS etc... Can you explain what made you think this is a TV? Hadwell was answering to the people above him that compared this to 4K TVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Fu$$ing NICE MAN !!!!!! I dream of such a place, hidden deeep in the cellar where kids no find me for hours ! HAHA Keep that spirit alive :thumbup: edit*: dumb question...how do you connect that many screens ?? Thanks. I got two GC. 3 outputs per card. This gives me an extra screen if needed. :P Edited June 15, 2017 by BaD CrC https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG14_Smil Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Outstanding Bad_CrC!! Looking forward to hearing how much I will want to get one. I've been at a crossroads with my PLP setup and it might be the way I go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj_pt Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hi all Just read an interesting article about an upcomming new huge 49" QLED HDR 144 Hz Gaming Monitor from Samsung with FreeSync 2: http://www.144hzmonitors.com/reviews/samsung-c49hg90-review-c27hg70-c32hg70/ What do you think about it? Cheers Weasel I'm inclined to order the C32HG70 as soon it is available at the Iberian shops. Considering I'm currently stuck with a 22", it's easy to see this will be a big change :huh: : http://www.displaywars.com/22-inch-16x10-vs-31,5-inch-16x9 My main issue is with that 1800R curvature. Won't it be too much for other stuff, besides DCS? [sIGPIC]http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/images/userbars/A-10C_UserBar_01.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David OC Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 That is one nice big monitor! I would definitely consider it if they make a G-Sync version. bbN2Yi6paXc i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Can you explain what made you think this is a TV? Hadwell was answering to the people above him that compared this to 4K TVs. Maybe the 40+" size ;) Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Maybe the 40+" size ;) I would still prefer my 40" 4k @16:9, which is also a monitor, not a TV. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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