what is DCS: NS430

[MikeMikeJuliet]

If you buy this thinking it's 15$ for all airplanes, and it turns out it's 15$ for each, then devs can say it's your fault as you didn't read what you pay for.

 

Confusing, but it is what it is.

 

Which is exactly why I'm not jumping the gun.

 

 

I mean, just because a module is out doesn't mean you need to have it right now.

I have not understood that mentality in a long time... buying "straight out of the oven" with

games (and flight sims) in today's market just burns you... Because nothing ever works before the first 2-3 hotfixes.

 

 

Patience. We will have information.

[Abburo]

I am waiting for some official statements before buying this.

While it is a very great addition, I really hope to not turn the DCS concept in buying airframes by parts and then working on assembly. It may become a "Pimp my Aircraft" . Next module will be 42" TV display for passengers :))) ... Sorry but I cannot stop myself... being so amused :D

[Vitormouraa]

Link for the manual:

 

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1857769391206941&id=1843394515977762&fref=gc&dti=289041797935232&hc_location=ufi

[OperatorJack]

Don't see what the big deal is w/ it being a Paid-DLC.

 

1. The Device itself is a Paid Addon for the Mi-8 in real life, and not Part of the Aircraft's Core Function.

2. The Device is a Complex device, with it's own O/S and Functions.

 

 

If you dont want GPS, dont buy it, Simple.

 

The real Garmin GPS is .8 percent the cost of a real Mi-8. Using the realism of having to buy it seperate as an excuse can allow me to argue the DCS version should be like 4 dollars :music_whistling:

Edited September 6, 2017 by OperatorJack
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[Arsonist]

Well, how about ED wants to release a new feature patch before announcing it, because if they do it the other way round, and it gets slightly delayed for whatever reason, people start complaining?

 

On the other hand, people seem also to complain when it is patched first and communicated two days later. So, yea, not quite sure what to say... :huh:

 

Furthermore, no one is forced to buy this product, especially not in that instant when it gets released. It's not like not having this module prevents you from flying...

[MikeMikeJuliet]

Furthermore, no one is forced to buy this product, especially not in that instant when it gets released. It's not like not having this module prevents you from flying...

 

My point exactly

[NineLine]

The real Garmin GPS is .8 percent the cost of a real Mi-8. Using the realism of having to buy it seperate as an excuse can allow me to argue the DCS version should be like 4 dollars :music_whistling:

 

We can go the other way on that too, so you probably owe ED/BST a lot more for the Mi-8 module... they take paypal.

Edited September 6, 2017 by NineLine

[NineLine]

Well, how about ED wants to release a new feature patch before announcing it, because if they do it the other way round, and it gets slightly delayed for whatever reason, people start complaining?

 

On the other hand, people seem also to complain when it is patched first and communicated two days later. So, yea, not quite sure what to say... :huh:

 

Furthermore, no one is forced to buy this product, especially not in that instant when it gets released. It's not like not having this module prevents you from flying...

 

We dont have anymore info than is currently available. So if you really want this for Mi-8, then buy it, if you want it for more than that, maybe waiting is a better idea, atleast till there is more news.

[OperatorJack]

We can go the other way on that too, so you probably owe ED a lot more for the Mi-8 module... they take paypal.

 

I'm not paying them extra for a module I don't own.

[NineLine]

I'm not paying them extra for a module I don't own.

 

SO there you go, your personal issue is solved, this module is only for the Mi-8 currently. You have no concerns at the moment.

Edited September 6, 2017 by NineLine

[OperatorJack]

SO there you go, your personal issue is solved, this module is only for the Mi-8 currently. You have no concerns at the moment.

 

Ah well excuse me for having a vested interest in a flight sim I've invested a fair bit of money into.

 

You can't really dismiss my opinion on the matter purely because I don't own this specific module, that's just poor argument technique.

 

I suppose you never really practise it though since you normally just suspend posting rights rather than arguing :smilewink:

[NineLine]

Ah well excuse me for having a vested interest in a flight sim I've invested a fair bit of money into.

 

You can't really dismiss my opinion on the matter purely because I don't own this specific module, that's just poor argument technique.

 

I suppose you never really practise it though since you normally just suspend posting rights rather than arguing :smilewink:

 

What opinion is that, that ED should give away anything they develop because you dont feel its worth it?

[SkateZilla]

how can you have an Opinion on something you cannot use because you do not own the module it connects to?

 

 

that's like me saying I hate the Mopar Exhaust for the Viper when I dont even own a Viper.

[OperatorJack]

What opinion is that, that ED should give away anything they develop because you dont feel its worth it?

 

The classic Ad Hominem, good one Sith.

 

No I didn't say that, I'm just concerned that the Combat part of DCS is becoming sidelined and community engagement leaves a lot to be desired.

[OperatorJack]

how can you have an Opinion on something you cannot use because you do not own the module it connects to?

 

 

that's like me saying I hate the Mopar Exhaust for the Viper when I dont even own a Viper.

 

Not an argument

[NineLine]

The classic Ad Hominem, good one Sith.

 

No I didn't say that, I'm just concerned that the Combat part of DCS is becoming sidelined and community engagement leaves a lot to be desired.

 

Because they built a GPS system? Yeah, its not like they are developing a F/A-18C... so I can see how your concerns about combat are warranted...

 

Look at the bigger picture, systems like this can and should lead to a better more evolved ATC system at some point... dont be so narrow minded. Besides, I am sure you can use this GPS in the Mi-8 to get to a location to blow something up....

[Vitormouraa]

And also Garmin is used in a variety of military aircraft. From Mustangs (not an actual military aircraft but still) to Su-25s, Su-24s and many more.

 

This system isn't only used by GA aircraft...

[SkateZilla]

Not an argument

 

Wasn't intended to be an argument.

[flo57100]

DCS: Garmin 430

 

15 Dollars for the Garmin 430 ?

 

I guess in a near future I will be able to buy DCS:Fuel truck to be able to refuel during a mission ?

[Elliot Durden]

I don't see a reason why people who worked on this GPS couldn't be used for 2.5 so it came faster.

[NineLine]

Guys, also understand this isnt an ED product, its a BST product, for a BST module. If another developer wants to add it, I am sure there will have to be some figuring and such to make it happen. So give them time, they probably want to make sure its smooth sailing on the Mi-8 before committing to another module.

[NineLine]

I don't see a reason why people who worked on this GPS couldn't be used for 2.5 so it came faster.

 

Because people working on a GPS system, aren't needed for what is needed to get 2.5 out the door. And they are BST people, not ED people.

 

BST - NS430

ED - 2.5 and DCS World

[Elliot Durden]

Because people working on a GPS system, aren't needed for what is needed to get 2.5 out the door. And they are BST people, not ED people.

 

BST - NS430

ED - 2.5 and DCS World

 

My bad, I thought it's an ED module. Thanks pal

[NineLine]

My bad, I thought it's an ED module. Thanks pal

 

No worries...

[SkateZilla]

15 Dollars for the Garmin 430 ?

 

I guess in a near future I will be able to buy DCS:Fuel truck to be able to refuel during a mission ?

 

Same GPS System for another product platform is $49.99, $64.95 or $149.99