Xanix Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) [Solved] z axis bound to throttle and ruder by default. *If anyone is having problems with ‘Flaming Cliff’s’ aircrafts; check ‘Axis Commands’ configuration. Hi. Everyone knows the SU-25T. It’s flight model is superb... this free airplane, had made DCS what it is! I like the Viper so, right now I usually fly the Mirage; the closest thing to it. The flight model is really, really good. I have the “Flaming Cliffs 3” module too. Last night I’ve tried the F-15C. I just can’t fly it! The airplane is “super” sensitive and keeps “jumping” around… I don’t remember it to be like this. Didn’t ‘ED’ made a new PFS for it? I really don’t know what’s going on… I can fly well the Mirage and the Tiger. The F-15 is simply impossible, at least for me… can’t even maintain a level flight! SU-25 = Almost there MIG-29 = Hummm SU-27 = Good A-10 = Ok F-15 = What? *Flaming Cliffs’ F-15C (F15.dll 3 804KB) *Flaming Cliffs’ F-15C (NO F15CCWS.dll) *F-15C (F15.dll 3 804KB) *F-15C (F15CCWS.dll 31KB) User error? Bad HOTAS configuration? How do you manage to fly it like this, online? Kind regards Edited September 22, 2017 by Xanix [Solved]
razo+r Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 if you say it is super sensitive, why don't you put a curve on the joystick input or modify the sensitivity a bit?
Drona Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 User error? Bad HOTAS configuration? Yup, sounds about right. Try what razo+r said. Maybe that's what is needed.
GGTharos Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 User error? Bad HOTAS configuration? How do you manage to fly it like The F-15 does have a PFM and it flies straight and level all by itself thanks to that PTC. It's probably a configuration error. Typically you will find that your rudder might be bound to both rudder and stick axis ... check for that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 right now I usually fly the Mirage; the closest thing to it. The flight model is really, really good. No it isn't. You might want to check the Mirage subforum. About the F-15: it's probably the easiest of the DCS aircraft to fly: you don't even need to trim it, it basically flies itself. I would indeed say it's an improper controls setup. Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
shonist Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 everything feels better than the f15. used a couple of mins, horrible. was like playing battlefield 3 I7 7700k - Msi Z270 Gaming+ GTX 1070ti 16gb @2400 2x Samsung 850EVO 250/500 - 1x HDD 1TB SAITEK-MAD CATZ CYBORG FLY 5 STICK WIN 10
GGTharos Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 I guess Battlefield 3 is real then, because the real eagle flies pretty darn close to what's modeled. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
winchesterdelta1 Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) everything feels better than the f15. used a couple of mins, horrible. was like playing battlefield 3 Edit.. was not very nice how i brought it. Edited September 25, 2017 by winchesterdelta1 Go in close, and when you think you are too close, go in closer.
rogonaut Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 it really is a very nice flight model, dont know how u get to this conclusion.
Shadow KT Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 You got to be bad at BF3 jets as well if you can't keep those in level flight :D :P 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days
Xanix Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 The F-15 does have a PFM and it flies straight and level all by itself thanks to that PTC. It's probably a configuration error. Typically you will find that your rudder might be bound to both rudder and stick axis ... check for that. Hello. You’re completely right. By default, the z axis was bound to throttle and ruder(!). I edited the axis configuration and corrected it; also added some ‘Deadzone/Curvature’…all right now! But I must say, after flying the Mirage and the Tiger; this F-15 doesn’t totally convince me. Anyway, thanks for the help.
Xanix Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) No it isn't. You might want to check the Mirage subforum. About the F-15: it's probably the easiest of the DCS aircraft to fly: you don't even need to trim it, it basically flies itself. I would indeed say it's an improper controls setup. Well, I don’t know if it’s flight model (Mirage) is ‘like/close’ to the real airplane or not. I’m enjoying to fly it a lot… very easy and forgiven airplane. Can you elaborate what’s going on with the Mirage? *If it needs more work; shouldn’t ‘RAZBAM’ concentrate his time to finalize this module (released/on sale), instead of making new models (Harrier)? Regards to all. Edited September 22, 2017 by Xanix
GGTharos Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Flies very close to how the real deal flies. If you're ever curious you can check the performance against the -1 manual (real pilot's manual), as well as the extensive performance studies conducted by NASA. Anyway, glad you got it working! :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Mr_sukebe Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 OP> Might be worth updating the opening post and header to reflect how this has progressed. 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
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