=DECOY= Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 My thoughts are with the pilot's family, so sad. Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2
Guitrz Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 That's really sad. My condolences to the family and friends. [sIGPIC][url=http://www.blacksharkden.com][/url][/sIGPIC] http://www.blacksharkden.com "Come join us" - Bad Religion
Devrim Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 So sad! R.I.P. But, why no ejection? Any info? Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
=DECOY= Posted September 24, 2017 Author Posted September 24, 2017 So sad! R.I.P. But, why no ejection? Any info? No yet, im wondering if GLOC is a possibility Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2
Kenan Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 My guess is, either of the two things happened: 1. The pilot thought he could pull out in time (miscalculated) 2. G-Loc It's kinda hard to believe, if he was conciouss and aware, that he didn't realize it's time to eject so..my guess is, GLoc (even partial could lead to his belated reaction and fatal crash). It just goes to show how fragile and relative human life is. Lights turn off in a split second. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
Kenan Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 There is another video of the crash, more clearly showing the circumstances: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
QuiGon Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 That was the second deadly Eurofighter crash in less than two weeks. :( RIP Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Bushmanni Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 If you are diving fast towards the ground and too low to pull up you most likely won't have enough altitude to safely eject either. So the third option is that the pilot made a mistake and upon realizing it considered that his only option is to try to pull up rather than eject. In finland there was a Hawk accident where the rear seat guy ejected and pummeled to the ground and died while the front seater survived the crash as the plane managed to straighten just enough to not kill the pilot when crashing. DCS Finland: Suomalainen DCS yhteisö -- Finnish DCS community -------------------------------------------------- SF Squadron
mr_mojo97 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) It looks to me that the AoA changed about 2 seconds or so before impact. If this is true I don't think gloc could be the cause. It looks simply like the pilot was too low (and way too fast) coming out of the loop. RIP anyways. On a side note is it true that the Viper has a system to stop it crashing into the ground? I wonder if the Typhoon has a similar system (but failed). Just wondering. Edited September 25, 2017 by mr_mojo97 MSI M5 z270 | Intel i5 7600k (OC) 4.8GHz | MSI GTX1080ti Gaming X 11Gb | 500gb Samsung 970 Evo NVME M.2 (DCS World) | 500gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD (OS and Apps) | 32Gb 2400MHz DDR4 - Crucial Ballistix | Be Quiet Silent Loop 240mm | NZXT H440 case | Thrustmaster Warthog - 47608 with Virpil Mongoose joystick base | MFG Crosswinds - 1241 | Westland Lynx collective with Bodnar X board | Pilot's seat from ZH832 Merlin | JetSeat | Oculus Rift S | Windows 10 | VA |
shonist Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) just sad like every death :(. a pitty that they risk their lives toynig with planes. hope thats the way he wanted to end. Edited September 25, 2017 by shonist I7 7700k - Msi Z270 Gaming+ GTX 1070ti 16gb @2400 2x Samsung 850EVO 250/500 - 1x HDD 1TB SAITEK-MAD CATZ CYBORG FLY 5 STICK WIN 10
tflash Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 It looks to me that the AoA changed about 2 seconds or so before impact. If this is true I don't think gloc could be the cause. It looks simply like the pilot was too low (and way too fast) coming out of the loop. RIP anyways. On a side note is it true that the Viper has a system to stop it crashing into the ground? I wonder if the Typhoon has a similar system (but failed). Just wondering. You must mean GCAS (Ground Collision Avoidance System): http://aviationweek.com/air-combat-safety/auto-gcas-saves-unconscious-f-16-pilot-declassified-usaf-footage Doesn't work in all circumstances, certainly not if you are diving high-speed into the ground. But it certainly has its merits! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
*Rage* Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I thought modern ejection seats are zero-zero. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
Pilotasso Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 zero-zero when the sink rate is neutral, but it appears to be high in the video and in that case ejection wont save the pilot. .
Goldsmack Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 What about that Thunderbird crash a while back that gave us that amazing photo. I imagine his sink rate was pretty high but was able to clear the aircraft. I have seen other ejection similar but I guess the vertical velocity was within the limit. Windows 10 Pro 64, I5 4690k @4.6GHz with CAPTIAN 240EX AOI, Samsung 850 EVO ,G Skill Ripjaws 16G RAM, Nvidia GTX 970 STRIX, MSI Z97 GAMING 5, WD Blue 1TB HDD, Seasonic M12 II EVO psu, Track IR 5, Pro Flight X-55 Rhino H.O.T.A.S
QuiGon Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 I thought modern ejection seats are zero-zero. Yes, that means they will work at zero altitude at zero airspeed (and above of course). But they won't save you if you're close to the ground and still going down. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Riverseeker Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Think also about the environment: 1) Height Evaluation is more difficult on the sea 2) In general acrobatic on the sea is more "disorienting" 3) It seems to me that there was really shitty ligh that day... 200m butterflier inside :harhar: MERLO forever
mig29movt Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 That was the second deadly Eurofighter crash in less than two weeks. :( RIP Where was the other incident? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Waiting to build a F/A-18C home-pit... ex - Swiss Air Force Pilatus PC-21 Ground Crew SFM? AFM? EFM?? What's this? i7-5960X (8 core @3.00GHz)¦32GB DDR4 RAM¦Asus X99-WS/IPMI¦2x GTX970 4GB SLI¦Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSD¦TrackIR 5 Pro¦TM Warthog¦MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
QuiGon Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Where was the other incident? In Yemen during a combat mission of the RSAF: https://theaviationist.com/2017/09/14/saudi-eurofighter-typhoon-crashes-during-combat-mission-in-yemen-killing-the-pilot/ 1 Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
NeilWillis Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 It isn't a good idea to debate the cause of an air accident. Show some respect for the family of the deceased, and allow the authorities to do their work. It is always sad when an incident like this happens. Condolences to all those affected by this tragedy, regardless of the cause. 2
Hummingbird Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 May the pilot rest in peace, and my condolences to all those left behind.
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Kenan Posted October 1, 2017 Posted October 1, 2017 It isn't a good idea to debate the cause of an air accident. Show some respect for the family of the deceased. I don't see how talking about it in a civilized manner is in any way disrespectful. Of course, to each his own I guess. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
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