WHOS ready for this!

[Devil 505]

WHOS excited?

[1stBEAST]

me! i like the reaction from arni after "thats a negativ!"

[JIMJAM]

Previous Harriers in Fs9 and FSX had horrible VTOL modelling. Any complaints were written off as "real pilots train for years". When transitioning from FF to hover there was a abrupt pitch up and the overall handling felt scripted. Cheats and tricks were used to achieve the appearance of VTOL. Curious to see how they pull it off. Harriers were very common around here and I often flew into fields where they operate so I have a good idea of how they should handle and what they are capable of.

I understand DCS is a completely different engine and will throw $60 at it to support the effort but I am going to be restrained in my excitement. I do expect many patches and a long continuing development time after release. Simulating the Harrier would be a monumental effort for even the largest of developers so we shall see .

Edited November 6, 2017 by JIMJAM

[WarHawk72]

Previous Harriers in Fs9 and FSX had horrible VTOL modelling. Any complaints were written off as "real pilots train for years". When transitioning from FF to hover there was a abrupt pitch up and the overall handling felt scripted. Cheats and tricks were used to achieve the appearance of VTOL. Curious to see how they pull it off. Harriers were very common around here and I often flew into fields where they operate so I have a good idea of how they should handle and what they are capable of.

I understand DCS is a completely different engine and will throw $60 at it to support the effort but I am going to be restrained in my excitement. I do expect many patches and a long continuing development time after release. Simulating the Harrier would be a monumental effort for even the largest of developers so we shall see .

 

Never flown a real harrier myself so it's hard to make a judgement, but i can assume it will be the closest thing to it with the resources and technology DCS and Razbam have at there disposal.

[BIGNEWY]

Previous Harriers in Fs9 and FSX had horrible VTOL modelling. Any complaints were written off as "real pilots train for years". When transitioning from FF to hover there was a abrupt pitch up and the overall handling felt scripted. Cheats and tricks were used to achieve the appearance of VTOL. Curious to see how they pull it off. Harriers were very common around here and I often flew into fields where they operate so I have a good idea of how they should handle and what they are capable of.

I understand DCS is a completely different engine and will throw $60 at it to support the effort but I am going to be restrained in my excitement. I do expect many patches and a long continuing development time after release. Simulating the Harrier would be a monumental effort for even the largest of developers so we shall see .

 

If my word means anything it feels good to me, and does not feel scripted. It is using EFM which is needed for vectored thrust in DCS ( first of its kind ).

 

I am enjoying it, but I do not think my ground crew are, testing its limits has produced many a broken under carriage :)

[Soundwave197]

Previous Harriers in Fs9 and FSX had horrible VTOL modelling. Any complaints were written off as "real pilots train for years". When transitioning from FF to hover there was a abrupt pitch up and the overall handling felt scripted. Cheats and tricks were used to achieve the appearance of VTOL.

 

I own a Harrier GR1 and Razbarms AV 8B for FSX and the VTOL and i was really disapointed how bad the VTOL was. It looks like the plane is rendered with 5 FPS while the sim running at 60

But i also have a MV-22 with VTOL and is works like a dream. Smooth transition from FF to hover. And the best part is its free and gets regular updates.

[rjetster1]

Extremely excited!!!! With the Harrier/F-18 and 2.5 on the horizon what's there not to be excited about!

[Kayos]

Extremely excited!!!! With the Harrier/F-18 and 2.5 on the horizon what's there not to be excited about!

 

Don't forget the F-14!

I can't wait for the Harrier.

[Fri13]

Previous Harriers in Fs9 and FSX had horrible VTOL modelling

I understand DCS is a completely different

 

Then don't judge yet.

 

FSX is already known to have a bad flight physics, but it is great for cockpit operation simulations.

DCS is known to have great flight physics, but terrible combat operation simulations.

 

There are always some drawbacks.

 

Current in DCS you can have great flight characteristics, or terrible one, as every module has basically its own physics engine and DCS just offers weather and terrain. So you can make an aircraft that flies like no physics would exist, or make it very scripted one. But DCS ain't holding back like FSX was.

 

If DCS would just get the "Combat" simulation right, it would go far far forward from what it is now.

[MstrCmdr]

Then don't judge yet.

 

FSX is already known to have a bad flight physics, but it is great for cockpit operation simulations.

DCS is known to have great flight physics, but terrible combat operation simulations.

 

There are always some drawbacks.

 

Current in DCS you can have great flight characteristics, or terrible one, as every module has basically its own physics engine and DCS just offers weather and terrain. So you can make an aircraft that flies like no physics would exist, or make it very scripted one. But DCS ain't holding back like FSX was.

 

If DCS would just get the "Combat" simulation right, it would go far far forward from what it is now.

"DCS is known to have great flight physics, but terrible combat operation simulations" What? This has gotta be a misquote. DCS has amazing combat operations. The mission editor is superb albeit difficult to learn at first. But aside from non-prescripted helo inserts it is great. I can think of no other sim that I'd rather play. Anytime I want to fly I jump on and have pretty much neglected 'the other sim' for years. Razbam is great and i'm excited for their flight model. Magz and DDG have some EA videos out and I'm frothing at the chops.

 

However, I would definitely love to see a living map like a certain other sim in Korea. I fly with my brother and right now we have to close the mission, delete what we destroyed, add units if we want, and then restart the mission. Not too bad.

[rjetster1]

Don't forget the F-14!

I can't wait for the Harrier.

 

Yes!!! and the F-14! We are really spoiled!!!:thumbup:

[Vinny002]

I am looking forward to flying the harrier!

 

Cheers,

Vincent

[bbrz]

FSX is already known to have a bad flight physics...

That's complete nonsense. Apparently you have never flown a plane in FSX with a very good FDE.

[Fri13]

That's complete nonsense. Apparently you have never flown a plane in FSX with a very good FDE.

Okay, so you claim it has superior flight physics for helicopters, VTOL etc?

 

There is a reason why DCS and X-Plane has better flight physics....

 

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I usually post from my phone so please excuse any typos, inappropriate punctuation and capitalization, missing words and general lack of cohesion and sense in my posts.....

[BIGNEWY]

1.15

 

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