Garyss Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 Over a week ago I contacted Thrustmaster on their website regarding their plans for a new HOTAS specifically for the DCA F/A-18C. They came back with some indication of this new product being under development. As it will be "a while" I will temporarily need some input stick in order to get off the ground with my F-5 "trainer". Any suggestions? Below is my discussion with Thrustmaster: Garyss: Eagle Dynamics is now taking pre-release orders for their F/A-18C fighter/bomber module which they expect to release mid-2018. Can Thrustmaster categorically state that you will also be marketing a F/A-18 HOTAS specific joystick-throttle similar to your HOTAS Warthog product near that timeframe??? Thanks….. Thrustmaster: Dear Garyss, Unfortunately, we have no information on the releases of a new high end joystick other than the press release (summer 2017). Our R&D department is making sure the new joystick will be just as reliable and feature packed as the current Warthog, if not even more so. This model is still underdevelopment at this point. To ensure the most efficient follow-up of your query, please answer directly to this email (Do not open a new ticket). Kind regards, Your Thrustmaster Customer Support Agent, Emil http://support.thrustmaster.com Clevo laptop: P650HS-G, i7-7820HK 3.9Hz max (+overclock capable), Liquid Metal pasted, 16GB DDR4/2400MHz, 15.6 G-Sync 120Hz 5ms panel, nVidia GTX 1070 w/8GDDR5, 10Pro Installed: DCS World, DCS World 2 with Nevada, F-5; Purchased: F/A-18C
SkateZilla Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 Standard Marketing Reply. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Revvin Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 If they do have a new product they will have invested a fair chunk of money in marketing, lining up preview articles and reviews from trusted websites, YouTube influencers and partners, they would not blow all that just to tell (no offence meant) some random guy who sent in a question from their website who would then release the information in an uncontrolled manner across a flight sim forum.
Jethro11 Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 I’m looking forward to the new stick. Thanks for trying to get some info.
NeilWillis Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 As an alternative, take a look at VKBs website. They have a Hornet style stick too, but it is not yet available in Europe unfortunately.
Sokol1_br Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) ... VKBs website. They have a Hornet style stick too, but it is not yet available in Europe unfortunately. Is know that VKB/HS teaser a F-14 stick "for the future", but an Hornet stick? VKB latest release, the MCG grips has not to do with F-something, but with Su-something. :D Edited January 24, 2018 by Sokol1_br link
simo1000rr Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 As an alternative, take a look at VKBs website. They have a Hornet style stick too, but it is not yet available in Europe unfortunately. it is available its just not from Europe however they deliver to Europe and any part of the world withing a week
Revelation Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 it is available its just not from Europe however they deliver to Europe and any part of the world withing a week There's no Hornet style stick on the website. Further there has not been an announcement that they were working on one. The closest they have is the Modern Combat Grip which is modeled after modern Eastern Block AC. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
Bender_39 Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 So TM said nothing since last year about a new stick and you thought you will get an official answer because you need a new stick? Nice try :) :) kind regards Bender_39
Buckeye Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 As an alternative, take a look at VKBs website. They have a Hornet style stick too, but it is not yet available in Europe unfortunately. Link to the Hornet style stick? Or are you referencing their PAK-FA/Su-57 stick (i.e. the MCG)? Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
airdog Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 TinFoil hat /ON With ED already getting our money for the pre-release buy of the F18....do you think its possible...just maybe a little bit that the release date being so far into the future that ED is holding up the EA release of the F18 to give TM a chance to possibly release their stick at the same time?? I mean ED got their money from those of us that cant wait to throw it at them. Tinfoil hat /OFF Airdog | Asus ROG Strix Z370-E Mobo | i7 8700K @ 4.7 | 32 GB DDR4@3200mhz | Gigabyte 2080Ti OC 11GB| Samsung M.2 960 Evo 250Gb and 500Gb | Win10 Pro | Hotas Warthog #02743 | Track IR 5 | Toshiba 47" 120hz LED | Acer 23" Touchscreen | HELIOS |Oculus Rift-S| http://www.blackknightssquadron.com/
Beamscanner Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 I'm hoping the delay from TM has to do with a new F-18 throttle
sobe Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 I have looked at the Russian HOTAS' and while they are nice, I just don't have the energy to go thru what appears to be a big learning curve with installation and software controls. I would prefer to stick with my WH and hopefully, TM will come out with a new F18 Stick. Trackir4 using the latest Trackir 5 software, Win10 Pro [Creator Update] updated from Win7Pro Pro 64Bit, Intel® Core™ i5-2500 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA115 , GigaByte GA-Z68XP-UD4 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 16GB Ram, GTX MSI Gaming 1060 [6 GB] Video Card, Main Monitor 1 on left 1920x1080 Touchscreen Monitor 2 on right 1920x1080 .
simo1000rr Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 I have looked at the Russian HOTAS' and while they are nice, I just don't have the energy to go thru what appears to be a big learning curve with installation and software controls. I would prefer to stick with my WH and hopefully, TM will come out with a new F18 Stick. What learning curve you talking about , its a plug and play , the calibration software which is wizzo is by far the simpliest software one candeal with . The other hard software you mean is not meant by average user its for very advanced users
TomOnSteam Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 I'd be happy with a mid range stick with two or more hats to go with the FCS throttle, which already seems perfect for the f/a-18 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cockpit Spectator Mode
33-DFTC Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 Word on the street is that something big is coming from Thrustmaster during E3. Let's wait for the announcement. There are only two types of aircraft, fighters and targets. - Major Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson, USMC
3WA Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 Where I"m buying from if I ever win the lottery. :p https://www.bugeyetech.com/
BigDuke6ixx Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Where I"m buying from if I ever win the lottery. :p https://www.bugeyetech.com/ I laugh at stuff like that now I have VR.
Buckeye Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 I laugh at stuff like that now I have VR. What does VR have to do with having a mil-spec HOTAS that is used by the militaries for their simulators? Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
BigDuke6ixx Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 What does VR have to do with having a mil-spec HOTAS that is used by the militaries for their simulators? I laugh at the graphics package ie the monitor.
3WA Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Anyone got a price list for these guys? Especially for their controllers.
Buckeye Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Anyone got a price list for these guys? Especially for their controllers. Roughly around $15k for the HOTAS and they don’t sell to people for personal use. Aerotronics is the same. More detailed info straight from the horses mouth below... Their products are geared towards military simulation. Some of the Flight grips and Throttle grips are of such fidelity that they were controlled by International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), now transferred to the Dept. of Commerce as of 2013. As such they are not inexpensive items, and require the end user be identified. Once identified, an export Licence may need to be issued, which costs a minimum of $275, or 2.5% of the shipment total. The components themselves are quite robust. For instance, some of the four / five -way trim switches run between $275-$650, mostly Otto parts used in the real thing. The radar cursor slew switches on the F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22, F-35 throttle cost $2400 alone. Their grips throttles and rudders run between $4500 - $12,000 depending upon the model and quantities. Ejection seats run between $2.5K - $25K. If you are a home builder and want grade B / C or D castings for your home pit project, at least Aerotronics occasionally has imperfect castings that you can populate with your own switches. The castings range between $150 to $750 depending on aircraft and condition. You many need to sand / and paint. So, not really a viable option for many...but seriously top quality. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
3WA Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Thanks Buckeye! Yeah, that's what I thought. I knew someone here would know. Just looking for something better than overpriced Thrustmaster. You would think with the rise of space simulators like Star Citizen, and DCS coming out with modern jets, we would be getting some better joysticks. Even sims like Steel Beasts need some decent Joysticks. Edited June 28, 2018 by 3WA
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