Django Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) For anyone running DCS 2.5 at *1440p* on a Ryzen 1500X, 1600 or 1600X system, what kind of performance are you seeing? Particularly interested in those with GTX1070 or better cards, please say if you're overclocking. Edited February 7, 2018 by Django Regards, Django. | BMS | DCS OB | A-10C II | AV-8B | F-16C | F/A-18C | FC3 | Persian Gulf | Supercarrier | Tacview | XP11 | FF A320 | FF 757 | | I7-9700K + NH-D15 | RTX3080Ti 12GB | DDR4-3200 16GB | Aorus Z390 Ultra | 2X Evo 860 1TB | 850W | Torrent Case | | Warthog HOTAS + CH Pedals | 32" TV 1080p 60Hz | TrackIR5 |
Rudel_chw Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 I have a Ryzen 1500X, but with an older card, the GTX970 ... not into overclocking, I'm getting 40-60 fps on Caucasus, 40-80 fps on Nevada and 40-55 fps on Normandy. I'm very satisfied with this performance and happy that this processor seems to be free from Intel's vulnerabilities :) For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Django Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 Is that at 1440p? Regards, Django. | BMS | DCS OB | A-10C II | AV-8B | F-16C | F/A-18C | FC3 | Persian Gulf | Supercarrier | Tacview | XP11 | FF A320 | FF 757 | | I7-9700K + NH-D15 | RTX3080Ti 12GB | DDR4-3200 16GB | Aorus Z390 Ultra | 2X Evo 860 1TB | 850W | Torrent Case | | Warthog HOTAS + CH Pedals | 32" TV 1080p 60Hz | TrackIR5 |
Rudel_chw Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Is that at 1440p? No, my monitor is 1080p .. sorry, I read your original post too fast :( For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
VirusAM Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Sorry I have 1700x with 1080ti I oc it at 3.95 when I use dcs....144hz 1440p monitor all high except shadows (low/flat) I use adaptive sync so 72 mostly on the ground and in the more complex scenes can go up to 144 in some scenarios... anyway the lowest fps I have seen on it is about 55...2.5 is really great for me till now... Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
Django Posted February 8, 2018 Author Posted February 8, 2018 I'd consider Ryzen 7s if the price was lower, now I'm looking at mainly the 1600X. What memory speed are you running? Regards, Django. | BMS | DCS OB | A-10C II | AV-8B | F-16C | F/A-18C | FC3 | Persian Gulf | Supercarrier | Tacview | XP11 | FF A320 | FF 757 | | I7-9700K + NH-D15 | RTX3080Ti 12GB | DDR4-3200 16GB | Aorus Z390 Ultra | 2X Evo 860 1TB | 850W | Torrent Case | | Warthog HOTAS + CH Pedals | 32" TV 1080p 60Hz | TrackIR5 |
VirusAM Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 I'd consider Ryzen 7s if the price was lower, now I'm looking at mainly the 1600X. What memory speed are you running?That's the bad part of the business....the shop where I bought the rig components, sold me a 3200GHz gskill memory kit, but with the wrong chip, so with my motherboard I am able only to run it at 2800GHz.... waiting for bios upgrades or next Ryzen gen rumored to solve memory frequency issue... Anyway it was my mistake because I did not check the motherboard supported chip page..... because I thought that all gskill kit were ok it...but that is true only for skill with Samsung memory chip .anyway the 1600x will be similar to my 1700x for DCS (until multithreading of course) but I use also the PC for other tasks not only simming.... Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
Django Posted February 8, 2018 Author Posted February 8, 2018 I was looking at getting a dual channel 32GB kit but I'm reconsidering, it really depends upon how memory use turns out in 2.5. What CAS is your memory? Regards, Django. | BMS | DCS OB | A-10C II | AV-8B | F-16C | F/A-18C | FC3 | Persian Gulf | Supercarrier | Tacview | XP11 | FF A320 | FF 757 | | I7-9700K + NH-D15 | RTX3080Ti 12GB | DDR4-3200 16GB | Aorus Z390 Ultra | 2X Evo 860 1TB | 850W | Torrent Case | | Warthog HOTAS + CH Pedals | 32" TV 1080p 60Hz | TrackIR5 |
Mr_sukebe Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 A question for you Ryzen users if I may. We're currently trying to understand CPU usage across cores, as it "appears" that 2.5 is making better use of multiple cores than 2.2 or 1.5 did. Would you chaps be kind enough to take a look at the typical usage in game and whether the load is spread fairly evenly across all of your CPU cores or not? 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
VirusAM Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 I was looking at getting a dual channel 32GB kit but I'm reconsidering, it really depends upon how memory use turns out in 2.5. What CAS is your memory?Later I will have a look at it... Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
VirusAM Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 A question for you Ryzen users if I may. We're currently trying to understand CPU usage across cores, as it "appears" that 2.5 is making better use of multiple cores than 2.2 or 1.5 did. Would you chaps be kind enough to take a look at the typical usage in game and whether the load is spread fairly evenly across all of your CPU cores or not?Is there a way to have CPU utilization statistics while in game? I have not a second screen so the only thing I can do is alt-tab every now and then Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
toutenglisse Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Yes afterburner - on settings you tick all cpu cores loads to be "on screen displayed" and so in DCS you have the %usage for every core
VirusAM Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 A question for you Ryzen users if I may. We're currently trying to understand CPU usage across cores, as it "appears" that 2.5 is making better use of multiple cores than 2.2 or 1.5 did. Would you chaps be kind enough to take a look at the typical usage in game and whether the load is spread fairly evenly across all of your CPU cores or not?These are my CPU/RAM settings..first picture is normal use..2nd dcs settings...for Ram is the same... theoretically I can go up to 2800 with Ram but via BIOS.. don't know why but Ryzen master don't have this value...or 1333 (X2) or 1467 (X2) which doesn't work..no 1400 option. for the CPU I can go up to 4Ghz but is not stable.... Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
VirusAM Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Yes afterburner - on settings you tick all cpu cores loads to be "on screen displayed" and so in DCS you have the %usage for every coreOk I will download it and try Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
hansangb Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Or just perfmon http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/E7EC9608932B8E008625763B004AEF51 hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
VirusAM Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Here some statistics... Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
BitMaster Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 add swapfile in OSD your CPU bottlenecks your GPU, that's what I read. How much max GPU usage do you get, no spikes, sustanined load ? Is it that tuff to push the 1080Ti with a Ryzen @ QHD ? If yes, then I am glad I have this Intel with all it's flaws. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
VirusAM Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 add swapfile in OSD your CPU bottlenecks your GPU, that's what I read. How much max GPU usage do you get, no spikes, sustanined load ? Is it that tuff to push the 1080Ti with a Ryzen @ QHD ? If yes, then I am glad I have this Intel with all it's flaws. i don't see it so bad.....i have 100+ fps with quite high settings (minum i saw 50fps in the heaviest situations)....of course my rig will seat down in VR...but i don't care about VR for now...then i made the Ryzen choice for future and because simming is not my only use for the PC and i needed as much core as i could have for my money... When (hopefully soon) DCS will go multithread my choice will pay.... R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
BitMaster Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 i think vr would be the ryzens domain, not the 2d-fps-race. i love our 1600x in da office, those ryzen are little devils, fast, silent, reliable Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Pilotasso Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 add swapfile in OSD your CPU bottlenecks your GPU, that's what I read. How much max GPU usage do you get, no spikes, sustanined load ? Is it that tuff to push the 1080Ti with a Ryzen @ QHD ? If yes, then I am glad I have this Intel with all it's flaws. Is DCS 2.5 using vulkan already? DX11+R7 will bottle-neck the 1080Ti. current Ryzens dont have the single core perf to do keep up. I dont expect this to be an issue with Vulkan because then R7's will be firing on all cylinders (cores). .
VirusAM Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 Is DCS 2.5 using vulkan already? DX11+R7 will bottle-neck the 1080Ti. current Ryzens dont have the single core perf to do keep up. I dont expect this to be an issue with Vulkan because then R7's will be firing on all cylinders (cores).Dcs is not using Vulkan...but it will (I hope soon) Yes r7 single thread perf is inferior to Intel...but speaking about fps in Dcs i am quite satisfied... Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
Pilotasso Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 I was speaking in relative terms of course. :) In my experience my R7 has been pretty snappy in any scenario. The bottleneck is theoretical and measurable but the ingame action is smooth on every title with detail maxed out. .
VirusAM Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 I was speaking in relative terms of course. :) In my experience my R7 has been pretty snappy in any scenario. The bottleneck is theoretical and measurable but the ingame action is smooth on every title with detail maxed out.Infact...that's my experience as well, with 2.5 then I can run with many settings on high...in general higher then 1.5..with other games well....in general is all maxed out Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
BitMaster Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 cores do count meanwhile, just with only 4 you cant find out. Try to explain the colour red to a blind man :( Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Django Posted February 15, 2018 Author Posted February 15, 2018 DX11+R7 will bottle-neck the 1080Ti. current Ryzens dont have the single core perf to do keep up. In that case what cards would you suggest for a R5 1600X, and for R7 1700X? Regards, Django. | BMS | DCS OB | A-10C II | AV-8B | F-16C | F/A-18C | FC3 | Persian Gulf | Supercarrier | Tacview | XP11 | FF A320 | FF 757 | | I7-9700K + NH-D15 | RTX3080Ti 12GB | DDR4-3200 16GB | Aorus Z390 Ultra | 2X Evo 860 1TB | 850W | Torrent Case | | Warthog HOTAS + CH Pedals | 32" TV 1080p 60Hz | TrackIR5 |
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