Witchking Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Hey guys, check this out: sorry if its old. I never saw this. :) ------------------------------------- On a side note, http://www.checksix-forums.com/showthread.php?t=134251 check the video in that first post....how come falcon 4 has better ground explosions than lomac. Lomac's ground and vehicle explosions suck compared to this....this is soo much better....the Il2 style debris spewing explosions cheers, witchking WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
Pilotasso Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Falcon 4 better explosions than LOMAC?! their all low res 2D sprites. .
Trident Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 He's got a point though, I've posted it before and I'll now link to it again ;) : http://www.forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=11981
tflash Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Pilotasso beat me to it: what do you mean about ground explosions in Falcon F4 being better than in Lomac? I know that explosions are supposed to be ugly, but THAT ugly? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Witchking Posted April 3, 2007 Author Posted April 3, 2007 what I mean is now in lomac....u get a vehicle explosion that is like " MISSILE HIT.......FIREBALL" ... skeleton of vehicle burning. The whole satisfaction in blowing up stuff comes from the debris that spews around like those in the IL2 series....... ...or a better idea.....LIKE EXPLOSIONS OF the ammmo bunker....OR as trident here shows...those explosions which occur once in a while in the current lomac are waaaay better...as it looks more rrealistic. ED knows, and many ppl know here that I have ranted about explosions, debris before.....I just hope that thy can get to change some effects of this......add random debris like in Il2 to the explosion and add sprites. Personally I NEVER played falcon 4....that video I saw...I saw the explosions and they are personally in my opinion better since if I bombed a target and saw that effect...that would be more exhilerating than in lomac..... a fireball and then skeleton.... ;) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
Program2 Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 That was a nice falcon video Witchking. I would have to agree that the explosion in that video looks a lot better with the amount of debris flying.
thesystem Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 falcon!? I like more the Jet Thunder movie....i would love to buy that one!!!:thumbup: DCS World, A10C, AV8B, M2k, FA18C, FC3, MIG21
Pilotasso Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 what I mean is now in lomac....u get a vehicle explosion that is like " MISSILE HIT.......FIREBALL" ... skeleton of vehicle burning. The whole satisfaction in blowing up stuff comes from the debris that spews around like those in the IL2 series....... ...or a better idea.....LIKE EXPLOSIONS OF the ammmo bunker....OR as trident here shows...those explosions which occur once in a while in the current lomac are waaaay better...as it looks more rrealistic. ED knows, and many ppl know here that I have ranted about explosions, debris before.....I just hope that thy can get to change some effects of this......add random debris like in Il2 to the explosion and add sprites. Personally I NEVER played falcon 4....that video I saw...I saw the explosions and they are personally in my opinion better since if I bombed a target and saw that effect...that would be more exhilerating than in lomac..... a fireball and then skeleton.... ;) I know EXACTLY what you mean, its one of the things that apeals to me in a SIM or a space shooter as well apart from FM, however its still different than detail. Falcons are ugly, if more satisfying, LOMAC are in 3D but somewhat sterile. Its not quite ugliness that you mean. I have never seen any SIM depict pyrotechnic efect that I would like to see. Smoke from damage in aerial intercepts are good but leaves alot to desire in fire trails and missile detonations. .
VMFA-Blaze Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Well to get back to the original post regarding Jet Thunder.. Even from viewing it in the very poor resolution of utube I just got to say the sim looks cool... I can't believe that its almost if not ready to be released... Man!!! its been a long time since I first saw this posted on the UBI forums.. Sure I'll buy it.. ~S~ Blaze intel Cor i7-6700K ASUS ROG MAX VIII Extreme G.Skill TridentZ Series 32 GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA II ASUS GTX 1080/DIRECTX 12 Windows 10 PRO Thrustmaster Warthog Oculus Rift VR
Force_Feedback Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Is that real in-game footage, or is it a render, because if that's in game, then, then, then.... REAL HARRIER, MIRAGE AND SKYHAWK carrier ops, omg. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
airea Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 It seemed more like a render the a in-game footage. But I really appreciate these guys, as they have made this sim real in such a short time. Think about the fighterops guys... It has been years I guess...
VMFA-Blaze Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 I just went to their site and was again disappointed... The clip apparently was created for viewing only and was not the real deal... Oh man.. Its still not available.. I wounder if we'll ever get a new sim to fly from anyone.. The newest one that I can recollect is FSX.....:) ~S~ Blaze intel Cor i7-6700K ASUS ROG MAX VIII Extreme G.Skill TridentZ Series 32 GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA II ASUS GTX 1080/DIRECTX 12 Windows 10 PRO Thrustmaster Warthog Oculus Rift VR
Aeroscout Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 FSX is a sim. DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
thesystem Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Well, look on Youtube for more jet thunder movies...the sim realy rocks.....and not just a Render! DCS World, A10C, AV8B, M2k, FA18C, FC3, MIG21
VMFA-Blaze Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 I thought you said sim... You can't actually blow things up... But FSX it is a simulator, in the broad sense.... If you have the system to handle FSX. its really not a bad simulator either.. I've been flying the missions with everything on high and really enjoy it.... ~S~ Blaze intel Cor i7-6700K ASUS ROG MAX VIII Extreme G.Skill TridentZ Series 32 GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA II ASUS GTX 1080/DIRECTX 12 Windows 10 PRO Thrustmaster Warthog Oculus Rift VR
VMFA-Blaze Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Well, look on Youtube for more jet thunder movies...the sim realy rocks.....and not just a Render! Yes I was viewing them as well.. I guess there doing a fantastic job considering that their a smaller team then ED is.... I think that this is only a part time effort for them.... But I'd really like to see a demo anyway.... ~S~ Blaze intel Cor i7-6700K ASUS ROG MAX VIII Extreme G.Skill TridentZ Series 32 GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA II ASUS GTX 1080/DIRECTX 12 Windows 10 PRO Thrustmaster Warthog Oculus Rift VR
Witchking Posted April 3, 2007 Author Posted April 3, 2007 apparently some of it is in-game and some is rendered. However, all the models are in-game models. WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
Aeroscout Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Ya, I went to their website and it looks real good. Dinamic campaign and everything. even a fairly well modeled harrier. (Maybe even really realistic. sounds like it!)Only thing I couldn't find was wether it was Track IR supported. anyone know? i hope so. DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
VMFA-Blaze Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 apparently some of it is in-game and some is rendered. However, all the models are in-game models. Yes your right ... You know that this sim was conceived about the same time as Lock On ..... So considering all of that I imagine that all of their flight models and avionics should be spot on.. I mean they even seem to have some decent skeletal models for the ground troops... I'm betting that once they finally get the Demo out of the door were all going to be in for a real treat... And this will most likely be a real HI Fi type of simulator... ~S~ Blaze intel Cor i7-6700K ASUS ROG MAX VIII Extreme G.Skill TridentZ Series 32 GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA II ASUS GTX 1080/DIRECTX 12 Windows 10 PRO Thrustmaster Warthog Oculus Rift VR
MBot Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 Here is what Dante-JT said on SimHQ about the video: P.S.: some shots are 'anim' and some are in-game, but all use original Jet Thunder flight sim models and its textures - it's just a matter of time for our 3d engine do all this for real even the Exocet shot with lighting and all. I am realy looking forward to JT. How long have I been waiting for a Falklands sim. I still remember how I almost freaked out when Jet Thunder was anounced in Summer 2003 ( man, almost 4 years ago... ). I hope their development speed will go up now, as I have heard that they found a publisher and are about to be working full time on the sim. It is about time someone does a sim about the conflict that has the potential for the best dynamic campaign imagible :)
Mizzy Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 There are a lot of by standers watching and waiting for JT who say nothing ... like me. This looks a wonderful development and straight from the heart but I only hope that shitty politics (which was what the war was all about... then again arn't all wars ;-) ) does not enter this games development. Having said that Lock on seems to have escaped this to a certain degree, even though we do get the 'I am from the USA and the F15 is dumbed down cos its Ruskies who developed this'.... crap crap crap. I suppose its the same with all war games really, look at IL2 and the Luftwankers! Mizzy.
Snowcat Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 Hey guys, check this out: sorry if its old. I never saw this. :) ------------------------------------- On a side note, http://www.checksix-forums.com/showthread.php?t=134251 check the video in that first post....how come falcon 4 has better ground explosions than lomac. Lomac's ground and vehicle explosions suck compared to this....this is soo much better....the Il2 style debris spewing explosions cheers, witchking That video is from FreeFalcon4 or RedViper as it is know. It has a hugely modified graphics setup. Nothing like the original Falcon [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
hitman Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 Its technically not a sim until the realism is as close as you can get technological wise. Micro$oft makes you pay more for that. X-plane is even worse than that...but with X-plane you get added sweetness. :) Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
VMFA-Blaze Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 Well I finally got the Red Viper footage to work, and I just have to say the graphics seem to have improved considerably.. But you know its really hard to determine just how much with all of the editing and special effects that were used there... I'm still waiting to see what happens to Falcon AF... I did find out that Stopworks has come out with a patch for the Block 52 cockpit.. So I guess I'll spend a little more time over on the dark side tomorrow:hehe: and learn a little more about the avionics while waiting for LOBS to become available... I like comparing the AtA systems in the F-15 here in Lock on to the F-16 over there... ~S~ Blaze intel Cor i7-6700K ASUS ROG MAX VIII Extreme G.Skill TridentZ Series 32 GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA II ASUS GTX 1080/DIRECTX 12 Windows 10 PRO Thrustmaster Warthog Oculus Rift VR
192nd_Erdem Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 what I mean is now in lomac....u get a vehicle explosion that is like " MISSILE HIT.......FIREBALL" ... skeleton of vehicle burning. The whole satisfaction in blowing up stuff comes from the debris that spews around like those in the IL2 series....... ...or a better idea.....LIKE EXPLOSIONS OF the ammmo bunker....OR as trident here shows...those explosions which occur once in a while in the current lomac are waaaay better...as it looks more rrealistic. ED knows, and many ppl know here that I have ranted about explosions, debris before.....I just hope that thy can get to change some effects of this......add random debris like in Il2 to the explosion and add sprites. Personally I NEVER played falcon 4....that video I saw...I saw the explosions and they are personally in my opinion better since if I bombed a target and saw that effect...that would be more exhilerating than in lomac..... a fireball and then skeleton.... ;) I've posted exactly the same thing a while ago, maybe it's time to bring it up since we're constantly having delays :) http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=11939
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