3Sqn_Fudd Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 Hey... in my hardware review rounds I came across this X-52 Pro Review. The first couple of sentences made me nearly fall out of my seat. Mind you, I'm an exceedingly happy X-52 owner and user.... http://techgage.com/article/saitek_x-52_pro_flight_control_system/ http://3sqn.com/forum/ Here's to 1.13 -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0488djMDBU
3Sqn_Sven Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 I'm looking at getting a new HOTAS. I have a Top Gun afterburner II which I really like, mainly for its simplicity and the rudder padels mounted on the throttle. I can't find any more of these sticks (the pots on mine are getting pretty crap) and am considering a second hand CH setup or an X52. Is the pro stiffer than the original? I'd need to mod the original if I was to get that, its too loose for my liking. Also, has it got rudder padels like the Top Gun and the X45? Anyone got any suggestions. 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region
Pilotasso Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 I'm looking at getting a new HOTAS. I have a Top Gun afterburner II which I really like, mainly for its simplicity and the rudder padels mounted on the throttle. I can't find any more of these sticks (the pots on mine are getting pretty crap) and am considering a second hand CH setup or an X52. Is the pro stiffer than the original? I'd need to mod the original if I was to get that, its too loose for my liking. Also, has it got rudder padels like the Top Gun and the X45? Anyone got any suggestions. I had TM AB II as well, oh boy will you feel the difference (no mater wich the 2 of the setups you will get)! I dont know how I could survive with the TM piece of crap for so long. X52 realy helped me with increasing the kills (unfortunatly, later FC took the oposite blow). I advise you to change as fast as you can, you wont regret it. .
159th_Viper Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 ......Is the pro stiffer than the original? I'd need to mod the original if I was to get that, its too loose for my liking. Also, has it got rudder padels like the Top Gun and the X45? Stiffer than the original due to dual-spring, but not by much. Difficult to compare/give a definitive answer as it is very subjective. As to Rudder Pedals, has none. Flight-Stick itself has 3D-Twist for Rudder Control. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Force_Feedback Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 Heh, a well-paid guy I guess, writing with so much 'enthusiasm'. I tested the vanilla x-52 is the shop, and I hated it, the thing is way too sloppy, the lights are reatrded. The whole set reminds me of christmas somehow :P Heh, and that all coming from a guy who owns an EVO. Why can't Logitech make durable sticks that don't wear out in 2 months? Those things are stable, give good resistance, giving you the feel that you control something, and not play air guitar. Yet, I hate Logitech sticks wholehartedly. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
S77th-konkussion Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 I don't care for the posting of pricing for a plain X52 in an article about a different system that is much more costly. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 Heh, a well-paid guy I guess, writing with so much 'enthusiasm'. I tested the vanilla x-52 is the shop, and I hated it, the thing is way too sloppy, the lights are reatrded. The whole set reminds me of christmas somehow :P Heh, and that all coming from a guy who owns an EVO. Why can't Logitech make durable sticks that don't wear out in 2 months? Those things are stable, give good resistance, giving you the feel that you control something, and not play air guitar. Yet, I hate Logitech sticks wholehartedly. It can be wroked arround: http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=21199&highlight=improve Tension too light? No problem. http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=21199&page=2&highlight=improve .
hitman Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 This reminds me of a past threadc but i dont recall anything but you can make more compass points on the x52 for more accuracy...is this true? Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
hitman Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 well my stick is brand new and no one else had CH or Cougar products. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
theGozr Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 X52 rotary buttons are so bad... Fly it like you stole it..
Meyvn Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 When I got more money, I might choose a cougar with a force sensor mod. It would be great to play Falcon4 with a cougar. My x52 only last less than one year without very intensive use. X52 is still a very nice stick. But CH is more linear, accurate, with more powerful script function. And also I like its military looking.
rogue_blade Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 anyone here a real pilot?? are joysticks supposed to be 'floppy' like the x52 series or stiffer like the logitech series [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
hitman Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 Thats actually a gripe of mine. This seems to be an example of me after a binge night out at a strip joint...I tell yah. If girls were this loose, Id have a family of 40. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
Skopro_PL Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 i still use the ms precision 2 and the x36 throttle..if u can imagine making those to work as one for a profile is a real nightmare..anyway that IMO is the best stick i have used(MS) its greatly precise and that exactly what i need for flying in formation.. | 8700k @4.9 | Gigabyte Gaming 7 | 32gb Tridentz @3000 | EVGA 1080 TI SC2 | CV1 | VKB MCG PRO [sigpic]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FeLGqKyJ3K08k3z-7XaegWgRuGRGkKUs/view?usp=sharing[/sigpic]
3Sqn_Sven Posted April 9, 2007 Posted April 9, 2007 The X52 is unrealistically sloppy, while the X45 is a bit too stiff. The cougar stick doesn't feel anything like a real controller because of its dual springs however the throttle is quite nice. I haven't tried a logitech. Generally the control feel will stiffen with increasing speed, and because you can't simulate this is why its so easy to over G at high speeds in lomac. In reality the stick would be so heavy that you could move it quite small amounts very precisely. But I just can't use the X52, it's just so sloppy. I think if I mounted it lower and centered it between my legs I could use it. 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region
Colt40Five Posted April 9, 2007 Posted April 9, 2007 X52 rotary buttons are so bad... If you mean the rotaries themselves(not the buttons they surround), I use one for MFD range, and one for 'specified target size'. Works like a charm. What is wrong with them? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Maximus Posted April 9, 2007 Posted April 9, 2007 I am using X52 THROTTLE and Saitek ST290 Joystick!!!, as long it works and basic button will do since I have a touch buddy handy :) the X52 joystick's rudder is screwed, so I have to put aside and plugged in ST290. the difference between X52 joystick and ST290 joystick. the ST290 is mucher more stiffer compare to X52. I might go for X52 pro when I have extra money ready :) Hope that helps. Maximus, The only real Maximus in DCS World. :music_whistling: I am not associated to viper 33 | Maximus. he is the imposter.
theGozr Posted April 9, 2007 Posted April 9, 2007 Colt The rotary buttons yes the two round buttons witch i use for Rudder trim and elevator trim are too small and flat and hard to feel them. the one from Cougar or even the X45 are 1000 % better Big and precise. In th X52 those 2 rotaries make it feel very toyish!! alas. Maybe with a mod ? or if someone did already found a fix for . Fly it like you stole it..
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