joca133 Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 Thanks for the answers and the video. It looks great and accurate enough to press even small buttons. Regarding the fild of view on the sensor and tracking, let me clarify what I was thinking. And it does make sense what was mentioned that you will probably looking at the button. But there are cases when you are, for example, setting an altimeter and looking up briefly, or to the sides, or to another instrument. In this case, assuming its out of sensor range, will the button clicks still work? Like when mouse clicking while looking elsewhere? 10 hours is a good point for battery life, no concerns from me there.
MilesD Posted September 8, 2018 Author Posted September 8, 2018 Hey Guys, I just wanted to give a quick update on PointCTRL. I have been testing different tactile push-buttons and updating PCB design and code all week. I think I have the finger device nailed down. I really need a name for that part. The original name of PointCTRL was going to be "The Finger" bought to you by "Third Base Industries", but my wife thought it was a little inappropriate. Anyway I am going to try and get another video up tonight showing both finger devices in action as well as rotary knobs and dials. But there are cases when you are, for example, setting an altimeter and looking up briefly, or to the sides, or to another instrument. In this case, assuming its out of sensor range, will the button clicks still work? Like when mouse clicking while looking elsewhere? 10 hours is a good point for battery life, no concerns from me there. The shorter answer is, after you initiate the mouse button hold on dial, then move the mouse off the dial to adjust feature, Only your finger needs to be in the field of view, not the initial dial or knob cockpit control selection. It works just like the mouse except when you move your head the mouse cursor does not move with your head position and generally stays where you are pointing. This was a great question and I will try and address it in the next video. Its down to the two banks of three buttons in the top of the pic. Miles Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
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Ratcatcher Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Hey Guys, I really need a name for that part. Miles Just a couple of thoughts while I'm in a sleep deprived stupor...kreeping in the spirit of your thoughts on "using the finger". :) 1:Digit Selectible Device (DSD) 2: Digit Controlled Device (DCD) 3: Digit-All FCU (Fingertip Control Unit) 4: FCU (as above) If considered rubbish please feel free to ignore! :laugh: Techlabs Chameleon Watercooled Gaming PC - Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.7GHz : Samsung 950 Pro 256GB SSD, Samsung 500 gig SSD, Seagate 1TB 7200RPM Drive : MSI GeForce GTX 1080 "Founders Edition" 8192MB : 800W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply : 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz : Occulus Rift S : TM Warthog : MFG Crosswind V2 : Win 10 64. PointCTRL.
Icebeat Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Hi Miles, I found this in Hackable about laser tracking using SteamVR base stations.
MilesD Posted September 15, 2018 Author Posted September 15, 2018 @Icebeat, Thanks but I couldn't get the link to work. I know there are people a lot smarter than me working on these types of devices. I am just focusing on the flight sim community and what can be an effective alternative for us with the current state of simulator software. Thanks again, Miles Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
MilesD Posted September 15, 2018 Author Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) New PointCTRL Video up Here is a video demonstrating operation of PointCTRL with 2 FCU's (Finger Control Units) Thanks Ratcatcher for the name !! I Hope to show production prototypes shortly. Thanks Miles Edited September 15, 2018 by MilesD Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
Iku_CC Posted September 15, 2018 Posted September 15, 2018 This is on my buying list..:)..simple working device..:). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] HP Z420 | Xeon E5-1650 @3.20GHz/3.70Ghz | 16Gb DDR3-1333 | ZOTAC GTX 980 Ti AMP! | Micron RealSSD C400 256Gb | Sound Blaster Z | TrackIR4 | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog| CH Pro pedals | Win 10 Pro 64-bit
Ratcatcher Posted September 15, 2018 Posted September 15, 2018 Hey Miles, thats looking great! Glad to help! Techlabs Chameleon Watercooled Gaming PC - Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.7GHz : Samsung 950 Pro 256GB SSD, Samsung 500 gig SSD, Seagate 1TB 7200RPM Drive : MSI GeForce GTX 1080 "Founders Edition" 8192MB : 800W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply : 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz : Occulus Rift S : TM Warthog : MFG Crosswind V2 : Win 10 64. PointCTRL.
streakeagle Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 A very nice solution to VR cockpit controls. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
sparkchaser2010 Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 subscribed and eagerly awaiting the results! Looks fantastic so far! ASUS TUF GAMING X670E with AMD RYZEN 5 7600X, 64GB DDR4, ASUS TUF GAMING 4080 Pico 4, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS Formally Known As: wpnssgt (google it )
=Panther= Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 Subscribed and ready to buy. Very awesome project. Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP
joca133 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 Great video, I can clearly see it as a viable solution. Thanks for answering our questions. How/when do you plan to sell it?
jnr4817 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 holy shit, that is great!!! Im definitely interested! one question, is possible to have two trackers, one below and one above the desk, so the desk is not masking it? What chair is this in the pic with the cut out for the joy stick? Thanks 9800x3d|64 GB 6200|4090|m.2 x2 http://www.blacksharkden.com/ Come join us!
FZG_Immel Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Still on it from day one Sell it and I will buy it ! [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70550_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-H - SSD M.2 EVO 970 - Intel I9 @5.0ghz - 32gb DDR4 4000 - EVGA 3090 - Cougar FSSB + Virpil WRBRD + Hornet Stick - Thrustmaster TPR Pedal + WinWing MIP + Orion + TO and CO pannels - Track IR5
schurem Posted September 22, 2018 Posted September 22, 2018 I want it! Have you looked into using oculus tracking camera for tracking? I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL
lolof1 Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 Hello Mr Miles I absolutely need your PointCTRL! It is too genial your product! I live in France, is it possible to deliver it to me? I would pay the delivery of course! You are a genius for the community Virtual CV1! Contact me Mp if you Want ! Great thank you for everything Lolof1 / Laurent. France / C6 Check-six French-website Core I7 4770k/5930k/6700k. All OC 4,5Ghz-Watercooling Corsair H100i/H110i V2/GYGABYTE SNIPER 5/ASUS ROG RAMPAGE EXTRÊME VI/ASUS ROG MAXIMUS FORMULA VIII/32-64 RAM DDR3-4/Alim Enermax Platimax 1200-1500 Watt/GTX 1080TI FE OC +20%/ SLI TITAN X PASCAL OC+20% /Corsair 800D/900D /VIRPIL T50-57 MONGOOST/ Hotas/Cougar/Warthog / MFG rudder pedals / Oculus CV1 ./WHEEL BASE THRUSTMASTER TS-PC RACER-WHEEL ROSOF1 Ferrari modder SIMDISPLAY SIMR-F1/WHEEL MERCEDES F1-HAMILTON 2016 SIMULAJE « AKIRA »...
MilesD Posted September 24, 2018 Author Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) Hey Guys, Just a quick update. I am testing the pre-production FCU prototypes now. I hope to order the production PCBs by the end of the week. I will post a pic of final FCU (Finger Control Unit) design, and the new, and much smaller HMD camera in a few days. My goal is to send out pre-production PointCTRL units for test, evaluation, and feedback to community contributors, and Eagle Dynamics if they want,( I think Wags flys VR ) by the end of October. Based on their feedback, I will make refinements and adjustments to the design and functionality. My goal is to ship production units in December. "Have you looked into using oculus tracking camera for tracking?" @ schurem, thanks for the question. Aside from camera to finger line of sight to issues, one of the design parameters of PointCTRL was to be a completely stand alone device that was recognized as a standard mouse and keyboard without any software running on the PC. Additional I wanted it compatible with any software title that uses a mouse. This would have been difficult for me to achieve using a specific external camera connected to the PC. Another benefit of the stand alone system is zero impact on PC performance, and no additional coding requirement from software titles. "I live in France, is it possible to deliver it to me?" @ lolof1, Thanks for your interest and comments, but I am really not that smart, I just keep breaking things down until I can understand them. Yes I will be shipping worldwide. Thanks again guys, especially for your patience. Miles Edited September 24, 2018 by MilesD Grammar Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
OzWookiee Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 Wow thanks for the update Miles! Can't wait to get these into my cockpit!
lucky-hendrix Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 Great find !does it take long to "reaquire" where you finger is after moving your head ? I am also very interested in this device !
Snapps Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 This is awesome, I’d rather no batteries but 10 hours is enough. been looking for something like this for a while now and I’m sure there are a lot of people here that feel the same way. Start selling them already!
lolof1 Posted September 27, 2018 Posted September 27, 2018 Thank’s Miles for your response !;) Good luck for your project :book: Aplushhhsss Core I7 4770k/5930k/6700k. All OC 4,5Ghz-Watercooling Corsair H100i/H110i V2/GYGABYTE SNIPER 5/ASUS ROG RAMPAGE EXTRÊME VI/ASUS ROG MAXIMUS FORMULA VIII/32-64 RAM DDR3-4/Alim Enermax Platimax 1200-1500 Watt/GTX 1080TI FE OC +20%/ SLI TITAN X PASCAL OC+20% /Corsair 800D/900D /VIRPIL T50-57 MONGOOST/ Hotas/Cougar/Warthog / MFG rudder pedals / Oculus CV1 ./WHEEL BASE THRUSTMASTER TS-PC RACER-WHEEL ROSOF1 Ferrari modder SIMDISPLAY SIMR-F1/WHEEL MERCEDES F1-HAMILTON 2016 SIMULAJE « AKIRA »...
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