Sydy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Hi guys, I am looking for your thoughts about a decision I’m about to make. I have a pretty nice rig with a 1080 installed. It runs nicely at 4k (32in monitor+TIR) and I’m happy with it so far, but I think it can run smoother. The main problem is that it is hard to find a 2080TI and the price is around 1400USD when we find it. I was thinking about upgrading to a 2080, because of the price is around 800˜900USD. Do you think 1080 to 2080 worths it or do you think I should go for a 2080TI paying around 1400usd? I really appreciate your thoughts. Tks in advance. All the best, Sydy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David OC Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) From all these test it's around 25 to 30% better at 4K. Not sure what DCS would be? I'm guessing you should wait to see someone post some results. Then again, how much can you get a 1080ti? It's not that far off at 4K.... Edited October 1, 2018 by David OC i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhus Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 For now, (without DLSS option, or RTX option) for DCS, the 2080ti is about 5% better than a 1080ti ... (on my PC for VR use) Maybe yes when DLSS will be added. Specs: Win10 64bits Pro, Intel i9-9900K | 32Go | RTX 2080 Ti | M.2 SSD 850go x2 Hardware: HTC Vive Pro + X56 Maps : Normandy + Assets | Gulf | Nevada DCS Modules: FC3 | UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2 | A-10C | F/A-18C | Ka-50 | SuperCarrier | F-14A/B | F-5E | F-86F Sabre | MiG-15bis | Mig-19 | MiG-21bis | AV-8B | Fw 190 D-9 | SA342 | P-51D | Bf 109 K-4 | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | M-2000C | F-16C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hargreaves Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I've just gone from a 1070 to a 2080, and it has been about 50% improvement, so the 25-30% mentioned above sounds about right. In DCS I am still on quite low cpu/gpu usage, as the game engine can't make use of all the available power at this time. It did however get me over the magic 45fps in VR, so I'm generally pleased with the difference. My honest opinion is that if I had a 1080 I probably wouldn't have done it, as it is a lot of money for a fairly modest performance boost. If we get Vulkan/DLSS down the line it might be a different story however. i7-7700K/Gigabyte RTX2080/Win10 64bit/32Gb RAM/Asus Xonar DX+Sennheiser HD380pro headphones/LG 34" UM65 @2560x1080/TM Warthog+VKB MkIV Rudder pedals/Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz_44 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Thinking about upgrading my 1070 to a 2080, I have a similar system to yours, John, but my CPU is much older - i7-4790K. Only playing in VR, so interested to know if my CPU will limit the full potential of the 2080. In the past, upgrading from a 970 to a 1070 was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomer Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Thinking about upgrading my 1070 to a 2080, I have a similar system to yours, John, but my CPU is much older - i7-4790K. Only playing in VR, so interested to know if my CPU will limit the full potential of the 2080. In the past, upgrading from a 970 to a 1070 was worth it. I have the same 4790k OC to 4.6ghz @1.25v. My cpu usage in DCS is just over 20% while playing in VR with a 1070 OC. The 4790K can handle the 2080ti w/o breaking a sweat, it could handle two in sli if needed running at 4k. The issue is the software and optimisation. I`m looking to upgrade but may go for the 1080ti over the 2080 due to the 11 v 8 gb of vram and higher cuda core count. I notice DCS using all of the 8gb vram on my 1070. If you run out of vram it more or less kills performance dead regardless of the GPU power. 12gb vram should have been the standard for the 2080 and 2080ti at today's prices. Edited October 1, 2018 by Zoomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydy Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 Thank you, guys. I will watch the videos and give it a thought. I still don’t know if 20-30% more worths 800USD... Thankt you all! Sydy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydy Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 Guys, Send it all to hell and just bought a 2080 AMP... the TIs are costing 2200usd. 2080 are at 830usd range... As they say YOLO - You Only Live Once! Tks, Sydy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joca133 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Guys, Send it all to hell and just bought a 2080 AMP... the TIs are costing 2200usd. 2080 are at 830usd range... As they say YOLO - You Only Live Once! Tks, Sydy 1080ti is still half the cost of a 2080, aparently with similar performance. I guess the answer depends on 1) use with other games (dlss enabled) and 2) available $. I had neither and very happy with the 1080ti for now, and hopefully another year or two. Congratz on the purchase, the result will be good regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydy Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 1080ti is still half the cost of a 2080, aparently with similar performance. I guess the answer depends on 1) use with other games (dlss enabled) and 2) available $. I had neither and very happy with the 1080ti for now, and hopefully another year or two. Congratz on the purchase, the result will be good regardless. Hi joca, If I had a 108Ti I wouldn't upgrade at this moment. I got a good deal (quite fair, I'd say) on my 1080 (300 bucks), so my upgrade will cost me 540Usd in the end and I will be future ready. The 2080 has a pretty similar performance if compared to a 1080ti, but it is 20-30%ish better than my 1080, so, I'll give it a go. I will post the results in a month. All the best, Sydy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) If I had a 108Ti I wouldn't upgrade at this moment. I got a good deal (quite fair, I'd say) on my 1080 (300 bucks), so my upgrade will cost me 540Usd in the end and I will be future ready. What do you mean by future ready? DLSS? It might be useful, but it might not be supported by DCSW.. And without it, IMHO it would be better to add a bit more to the amount you've got for the 1080 and upgrade to a used 1080Ti which gives you the same performance levels as 2080. Edited October 2, 2018 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 why pay extra for a DLSS card when you can’t use it for anything? and might not be able to use it for anything next year either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Fei Mao Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 If only ED use the DLSS, then the RTX1080 has an obvious advantage over GTX1080TI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 If only ED use the DLSS, then the RTX1080 has an obvious advantage over GTX1080TI. ^ IF.... by then, IF, a 3080 or 4080 xGT will be out. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 guys there's no need to update from a 1070 to a 2080ti, in 2D there are zero differences between the 2....... CPU : Intel i7 8700k@5.0ghz cooled by Noctua NH-D15 / Motherboard:Asorck Z370 Taichi / RAM: 32GB GSkill TridentZ @3600mhz / SSD: 500GB Nvme Samsung 970 evo+1 TB Sabrent Nvme M2 / GPU:Asus Strix OC 2080TI / Monitor: LG 34KG950F Ultrawide / Trackir 5 proclip/ VIRPIL CM2 BASE + CM2 GRIP + F148 GRIP + 200M EXTENSION /VKB T-Rudder MKIV rudder /Case: Fractal Design R6 Define black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hargreaves Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 why pay extra for a DLSS card when you can’t use it for anything? and might not be able to use it for anything next year either? It buys you a raffle ticket for the DLSS/RTX prize draw; maybe you win, maybe you don't. The RTX cards also have the new USB-C video output for next gen VR headsets, so if they appear during the lifespan of the card then you are good too. Or maybe none of that will happen, who knows i7-7700K/Gigabyte RTX2080/Win10 64bit/32Gb RAM/Asus Xonar DX+Sennheiser HD380pro headphones/LG 34" UM65 @2560x1080/TM Warthog+VKB MkIV Rudder pedals/Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) guys there's no need to update from a 1070 to a 2080ti, in 2D there are zero differences between the 2....... EVERY reviews shows improvements *IF* you use 4K. So if you're using 1920x1080, I'm sure you'll see very little benefit due to other bottlenecks. Also, see this: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3646508&postcount=17 Edited October 7, 2018 by hansangb hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Fact is, if you run TiR you are forced to either get locked at 60fps or have the power to lift yourself up to 120fps or more, but not 1 frame below. The 2080ti got some juice, but not enough to give me 120fps at QHD with the same LOD. I have the option, either 2080ti or a new iPhone. I think I take the iPhone. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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