Katmandu Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 When dropped on landing, real AV8 bounces clean off the ground with both the rear mid wheel and the wing wheels. Look closely at 0:20 Our DCS Harrier sticks to the ground like glue, neither the rear or the side wheels bounce up E.g. at 0:31 here, the only way to make them bounce is to land diagonally forwards, e.g. at 1:01 above. But vertical landings never do that, it is almost like suspension dampers are too aggressive in killing recoil.
Shadow_1stVFW Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 I'll add to this, if you look at the stance the Harrier in the video has, it squats a lot more than ours does. Like the in game suspension is more robust. Is something that's I've always noticed. I don't think they look as aggressive in the ground because the sit too high. And yes I know it's a plus, but look at the profile on the ground if you load 6 MK83s, two full fuel tanks an 2MK82s. You will still sit higher while WELL overweight. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Aurora R7 || i7K 8700K || 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s || 2TB M.2 PCIe x4 SSD || GTX 1080 Ti with 11GB GDDR5X || Windows 10 Pro || 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2667MHz || Virpil Warbird Base || Virpil T-50 Stick || Virpil MT-50 Throttle || Thrustmaster TPR Pedals || Oculus Rift
Sadist_Cain Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Explains the off putting nose high feeling I get when landing, good spot.
Shrike88 Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Also Largest difference for me in those videos is the amount of throttle response between RL and DCS. Sounds like they are able to bring the engines to ilde much much faster than in DCS where is a very slow reduction of power. Im sure this would greatly help VL also if it was implemented correctly.
bkthunder Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Also Largest difference for me in those videos is the amount of throttle response between RL and DCS. Sounds like they are able to bring the engines to ilde much much faster than in DCS where is a very slow reduction of power. Im sure this would greatly help VL also if it was implemented correctly. The real harrier has a thing called fast deceleration solenoid, which allows the engine to reach idle very quickly when landing vertically and with weight on wheels. I have posted about this more than once, but unfortunately no one (including razbam) seems to give a damn... Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
Frederf Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 I remember, bk, that was a cool thing to read about. Thanks for sharing it.
DmitriKozlowsky Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 You may well be correct. However the DCS AV-8B and RW one in video may have had different GW on T/D. Additionally LHA , in video, appears to be doing 12-14 knots or slightly faster. Creating more underwing air, and add to that real world turbulent air currents around deck, not present in DCS. Some of that could explain the bouncing that.
Phil73805 Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 The real harrier has a thing called fast deceleration solenoid, which allows the engine to reach idle very quickly when landing vertically and with weight on wheels. I have posted about this more than once, but unfortunately no one (including razbam) seems to give a damn... Could I trouble you to post a link? I'd like to read that. Also, I'm given to understand that the AV8B Harrier II+ is much heavier than the Night Attack variant. Might that explain the bounce? The suspension of the N/A might well absorb the landing better? Windows 10 64bit, Intel Core i5 8600K CPU @ 3.6GHz, 32GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB. 500GB SSD (Exclusively for DCS World), Thrustmaster Warthog, Logitech G Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals. Track IR 5 with Pro Clip. Vaicom Pro. EASA PPL(A), Glider Aerobatics. Modules: A-10C, F/A-18C, F-5E, Mirage 2000C, AV-8B N/A, Yak 52, Flaming Cliffs 3, Heatblur F14B/A, UH-1H Huey, SA342 Gazelle and all but one of the warbirds. Caucuses, Persian Gulf, NTTR, Normandy, Channel and Syria.
TheSkipjack95 Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 Could I trouble you to post a link? I'd like to read that. https://info.publicintelligence.net/AV-8B-000.pdf page 83.
jeffyd123 Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 in my opinion, I would say this is a low priority for our harriers. I seem to bounce pretty well sometimes on the carrier i7 8700K @ 4.4Ghz, 16G 3200 RAM, Nvidia 1080Ti, T16000 HOTAS, TIR5, 75" DLP Monitor
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