Rukus Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Im having a issue using TOO mode on the F18 Harm with the Open Beta. I see the emitters on the TOO mode page and I have the diamond on the top right of that page. I can change which emitter that i want to target, however i'll hit the cage/uncage button a dozen times before it will hand off. Once the handoff happens i can destroy the emitter. Most cases im less than 15 miles away and about 4k to 6k altitude. I even have issues at 20K. I'm sure im doing something wrong but not sure what it is. Any help is appreciated.
DutchCoolHand Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 I have a similar issue, I hit the cage/uncage button but nothing happens AMD RYZEN 7 2700 / 32GB / RTX2070 / 500GB M.2 with Windows and DCS / 2 - 500GB SSD / Rift S/ TM Warthog with F18 stick and Virpil WarBRD / Foxx Mounts/ MFG Crosswind rudders + 3 MFD's | Now enjoying VR with PointCTRL controllers + Gamematrix JetSeat
some1 Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Do you have uncage function assigned to your joystick? It seems that sometimes uncage button needs to be held for a moment, and joystick mapping programs release it too soon. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Rukus Posted March 7, 2019 Author Posted March 7, 2019 Great thought....I'll put a delay into my joystick program
Rukus Posted March 8, 2019 Author Posted March 8, 2019 I want to confirm that the joystick keypress was too fast. Added a 500ms delay between press and release. Works fine now.
DutchCoolHand Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 I want to confirm that the joystick keypress was too fast. Added a 500ms delay between press and release. Works fine now. good to know, years ago I used to program my Thrustmaster, I have not done that in years. AMD RYZEN 7 2700 / 32GB / RTX2070 / 500GB M.2 with Windows and DCS / 2 - 500GB SSD / Rift S/ TM Warthog with F18 stick and Virpil WarBRD / Foxx Mounts/ MFG Crosswind rudders + 3 MFD's | Now enjoying VR with PointCTRL controllers + Gamematrix JetSeat
victorlima01 Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Have you guys confirmed that that is the reason?
DutchCoolHand Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 No, I have tested it today but I can't add the delay so I tested it by using the keyboard command C and it did not seem to work either. This is the order in which I do things: master mode to Air to Ground master mode on select HARM select TOO mode select using the RAID/FLIR/FOV switch I can move between different transmitters select Cage/uncage with the button on my throttle or C on the keyboard and fire the missile. But nothing happens, how do I know if the information was downloaded to the missile? AMD RYZEN 7 2700 / 32GB / RTX2070 / 500GB M.2 with Windows and DCS / 2 - 500GB SSD / Rift S/ TM Warthog with F18 stick and Virpil WarBRD / Foxx Mounts/ MFG Crosswind rudders + 3 MFD's | Now enjoying VR with PointCTRL controllers + Gamematrix JetSeat
RaiderOne Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) No, I have tested it today but I can't add the delay so I tested it by using the keyboard command C and it did not seem to work either. This is the order in which I do things: master mode to Air to Ground master mode on select HARM select TOO mode select using the RAID/FLIR/FOV switch I can move between different transmitters select Cage/uncage with the button on my throttle or C on the keyboard and fire the missile. But nothing happens, how do I know if the information was downloaded to the missile? Apparently you have missed a step : betwin 5. and 6. you have to put the focus on the DDI where your HARM page (in TOO mode) is displayed. This is done by using "sensor left" key or "sensor right" key . In other words, you have to put the DDI of the HARM page --> "Sensor of Interest (SOI)" ! And then the uncage of the Harm Missile will work ! :thumbup: Then you can shoot it ! Edited March 9, 2019 by RaiderOne
DutchCoolHand Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 Apparently you have missed a step : betwin 5. and 6. you have to put the focus on the DDI where your HARM page (in TOO mode) is displayed. This is done by using "sensor left" key or "sensor right" key . In other words, you have to put the DDI of the HARM page --> "Sensor of Interest (SOI)" ! And then the uncage of the Harm Missile will work ! :thumbup: Then you can shoot it ! I know what you are referring too so let me double check, I think I did that. the reason I am saying this is that the Raid/Flir switch works fine, so my focus must be on the correct DDI Thanks AMD RYZEN 7 2700 / 32GB / RTX2070 / 500GB M.2 with Windows and DCS / 2 - 500GB SSD / Rift S/ TM Warthog with F18 stick and Virpil WarBRD / Foxx Mounts/ MFG Crosswind rudders + 3 MFD's | Now enjoying VR with PointCTRL controllers + Gamematrix JetSeat
raelias Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 I know what you are referring too so let me double check, I think I did that. the reason I am saying this is that the Raid/Flir switch works fine, so my focus must be on the correct DDI Thanks The raid will work regardless of you selecting the DDI (not sure if it's suppose to), the uncage button on the other hand will not Win10 64, MSI Krait Gaming Z370, I7 8700K, Geforce 1080Ti FTW3 ,32 GB Ram, Samsung 980 EVO SSD Modules: Combind Arms, A-10C, F-86F, F/A-18, F-16, Flaming Cliffs, KA-50, L-39, P-51, UH-1, Christen Eagle II, Persian Gulf
Gunnergolly Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) I have the same problem, pressing either the cage/uncage button (mapped on my Warthog throttle) or the "C" button will not "handoff" the HARM. The RAID/FLIR switch is working fine as i am able to switch between the different emitters. I really can't see what i'm doing wrong with the HARM in TOO mode ??... The cage/uncage button is working fine when used with the Mavericks or with the Sparrows to cycle the "Loft" mode. Edited March 9, 2019 by Gunnergolly Win 11 Home 64Bit, i7-13700K@5.2Ghz Water Cooled, 32 Gb RAM, PNY RTX4090, Pimax Crystal, Quest Pro, Realsimulator FSSB R3 ULTRA, Virpil/Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS combo, MFG Crosswind Pedals.
snarkbomb Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 Same here, no change to those bindings and this was working previously. I'll try to grab a track next time it happens.
RaiderOne Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 Same as said a few post above : You have to put the screen of the HARM page --> "Sensor of Interest (SOI)" ! And then the "uncageing" of the Harm Missile will work ! This is done by using "sensor left" key or "sensor right" key
DutchCoolHand Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 I have the same problem, pressing either the cage/uncage button (mapped on my Warthog throttle) or the "C" button will not "handoff" the HARM. The RAID/FLIR switch is working fine as i am able to switch between the different emitters. I really can't see what i'm doing wrong with the HARM in TOO mode ??... The cage/uncage button is working fine when used with the Mavericks or with the Sparrows to cycle the "Loft" mode. I can confirm that Realis was correct, I did not have the correct DDI selected. I now do the hand-off no problem. So I made a mission and set it to unlimted weapons so I can practice more than 4 times. Bit is did not work. Set the main config to unlimted weapons and still it was not unlimited. AMD RYZEN 7 2700 / 32GB / RTX2070 / 500GB M.2 with Windows and DCS / 2 - 500GB SSD / Rift S/ TM Warthog with F18 stick and Virpil WarBRD / Foxx Mounts/ MFG Crosswind rudders + 3 MFD's | Now enjoying VR with PointCTRL controllers + Gamematrix JetSeat
MrReynolds Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 Well here's a good one. I had this same issue - the "c" not working to uncage. Believe me, I've done everything right. Added an extra bind: Shift+c and ...... everything works fine. C pops up in the command list (key press or joystick press). Just doesn't work in game. The only thing for me is that I'm currently running a hybrid system of Wathog throttle and x56 stick (don't ask, pictures to come if and when I don't get support fgrom Logitech) so there could be some kind of ghost conflict.
PickleMonster Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) I'm getting the same issue. Using the training mission for HARM TOO Checked and tried different keybinds. HARM page selected as SOI. Can change targets normally. Cannot hand-off target to HARM. SP mode works fine. Edit:- Did some more testing. It works fine if starting cold. Appears to be an issue if starting hot or in the air. Edited January 28, 2020 by PickleMonster
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