Roadbases

[Survival]

It would be nice do see the option for Roadbases in the Future, for Helos, Harrier and the Viggen.

 

With rearming refueling and Repair options.:thumbup:

[Gierasimov]

Oh yes!

[Baco]

You already have the possibility to include road bases with the ME.

 

It would be nice if every plane could start "on ground" anywhere...

[Fri13]

You already have the possibility to include road bases with the ME.

 

It would be nice if every plane could start "on ground" anywhere...

 

That is asked, that every aircraft that is designed to perform from unprepared strips and grounds should work so. That would drop many Western aircrafts out as they are not designed to withstand suchs operations like Soviets did, nor operate from a totally unprepared strips that has lots of FOD possibilities.

 

These has been requested for the airfields, that has hardened and prepared areas well outside the paved areas. But some people are very much against such and consider it as wasted time or feature, as they only think that everyone should fly and land with a perfect condition aircraft in perfect school manner in every situation, like there ain't war where you are going to come down with a aircraft that will eventually slide at the end well in control to unpaved area, and you still would get rolling there normally with aircrafts designed for it.

 

That same thing leaves that you can't have the expected roadbases for some countries, as you can't operate in the grass.

[Survival]

@Baco I know that but u can´t refuel and rearm there! Only with physical contact with a FARP.

[Baco]

///...But some people are very much against such and consider it as wasted time or feature,.../// .

 

They only need to change a line on a Lua file. thats how hard it its... ;)

 

Regarding Grass or unprepared terrain.. there are a few Mods that give nice solutions to that.

It would be nice that certain Mods, specially Statics and buildings got incorporated into the game, as not to separate mod users form vanilla users...

[Kang]

@Baco I know that but u can´t refuel and rearm there! Only with physical contact with a FARP.

So basically one would need a new FARP type that simply doesn't have this raised terrain bit?

[Tippis]

You already have the possibility to include road bases with the ME.

 

It would be nice if every plane could start "on ground" anywhere...

Has there been any news on making this work in MP as well, or is it still just an SP feature? Searching only seems to lead to that sad old thread.

 

So basically one would need a new FARP type that simply doesn't have this raised terrain bit?

There used to be an ununsed and unimplemented “Grass field” static structure that suggested that something was in the work to do something similar. It was sitting around in the ME for ages until it was removed since it seemed it would not actually see the light of day in any foreseeable future.

[SUNTSAG]

All things are possible with mods and a little effort :thumbup:

 

[Gierasimov]

Sure, mods can achieve a lot.

However if one is not a big fan of mods, this thread talks about just that.

With ED main modules Hog and Hornet it should really be possible to refuel and arm a jet from a function of ground teams and their equipment. Landing on a flat terrain is already possible as well as taking off so would be nice if a fuel truck could give a drink.

[Harlikwin]

All things are possible with mods and a little effort :thumbup:

 

 

Can this work on a MP server?

[SUNTSAG]

Absolutely yes......as with any mod the server and those joining must have the mod installed.

[Kev2go]

It would be nice do see the option for Roadbases in the Future, for Helos, Harrier and the Viggen.

 

With rearming refueling and Repair options.:thumbup:

 

+1

 

This would also be applicable to the a10 by the way since it is capable of deploying from austere conditions so shouldn't have issues deploying from a smooth highway

Edited May 15, 2019 by Kev2go

[Fri13]

+1

 

This would also be applicable to the a10 by the way since it is capable of deploying from austere conditions so should it from s smooth highway

 

There was interview in one A-10 document in Iraq, where the interviewed praised A-10 capability operate on sandy dirtstrips, the wheels buried 30 cm in sand and yet performed all landing, taxiing, turning and taking off in those conditions perfectly.

[Harlikwin]

Absolutely yes......as with any mod the server and those joining must have the mod installed.

 

And therin lies the problem. Maybe ED can incorporate this into the main version.

[Survival]

I have tested the Marsden FARP but the FARP mat is floating and broken my gear.

 

 

 

and sometimes looks like this!

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=209655&d=1556787418

 

 

@SUNSTAG and I have installed you anti-floating hotfix!!

[Xilon_x]

All things are possible with mods and a little effort :thumbup:

 

 

if we were in reality that road in DCS of only 4m is not suitable for achieving a ROADBASE.

the reality is quite different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ELICOPTER

 

 

[Kang]

The actual reality is that the whole concept of roadside bases is meant to give you ever more options on where to operate from. A two-lane country road with no hard shoulders probably isn't quite the optimum choice and exercises and training flights will certainly take place at more advantageous places. That doesn't change the fact that in 'the real deal' people will use whatever they can.

When the RAF brought Harriers to northern Germany in the 70s they'd regularly travel west from their home bases to scout the area for suitable spots to use as bases during the inevitable retreat. Motorways, large parking lots, some clearings... I'm fairly sure they had them mapped out very well and probably ranked for their suitability. So when that highway you wanted to use just isn't a possible choice, you go to the next one on your list.

[Xilon_x]

The actual reality is that the whole concept of roadside bases is meant to give you ever more options on where to operate from. A two-lane country road with no hard shoulders probably isn't quite the optimum choice and exercises and training flights will certainly take place at more advantageous places. That doesn't change the fact that in 'the real deal' people will use whatever they can.

When the RAF brought Harriers to northern Germany in the 70s they'd regularly travel west from their home bases to scout the area for suitable spots to use as bases during the inevitable retreat. Motorways, large parking lots, some clearings... I'm fairly sure they had them mapped out very well and probably ranked for their suitability. So when that highway you wanted to use just isn't a possible choice, you go to the next one on your list.

 

 

 

 

 

in DCS I saw 2 or 3 types of roads but there are no highways

places on the road where to make fuel there are not ------- if you land with a harrier in a city in DCS if you try to land in a field you kick a stadium you will notice that the measurements of the stadium are not proportionate to the measures plane.

Edited May 16, 2019 by Xilon_x

[Harlikwin]

in DCS I saw 2 or 3 types of roads but there are no highways

places on the road where to make fuel there are not ------- if you land with a harrier in a city in DCS if you try to land in a field you kick a stadium you will notice that the measurements of the stadium are not proportionate to the measures plane.

 

Yeah I haven't seen something like a Wide road anywhere in DCS caucus, I think in nevada and PG there are wider roads/highways. The point being for MP we need a "ED supported" system to do it, like the heli-farp. Because at least for casual servers, they aren't going to require "mods".

[SUNTSAG]

Highways on both maps....seek and you shall find :thumbup:

 

 

 

[Harlikwin]

Can ED add this to the core game so it can be used online by all?

[Xilon_x]

I have never seen the English who make the roadbases the English have the harrier and an arrier does not need a highway to take off just a simple helipad I have a small field

[lucky-hendrix]

Ed sais they would add this months ago ! I can't be too complicated surely

 

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[SUNTSAG]

I have never seen the English who make the roadbases the English have the harrier and an arrier does not need a highway to take off just a simple helipad I have a small field

 

I am afriad your statement is incorrect. During the 80s 4 Sqn Harriers (RAF Gutersloh) had the remit to operate from German Autobahns in the event of the break out of hostilities with the then Soviet Union.

 

We also had the capability of operating from woodland hides in locations pre scouted in advance but required the use of AM2 mats as taxing and STOL platforms. Woodland operations were practiced during exercises at RAF Wittering here in the UK.