Missing Low RPM sound effects

[razo+r]

Before someone asks if I got experience, yes, I worked 1 year with them from ground crew distance.

 

Now my complaints:

 

I'd say there are 3 major issues with the low RPM sounds of the Hornet engine, mainly from the rear.

 

1: When they start up the engines, that specific weird sound appears when the engine is close to the stable RPM. In DCS, the sound appears, does it stuff and fades away. While I have also encountered this in real life, it is not the only type of it that can happen. I also wittnessed slowly fading types of this sound and rarely even one that faded away really quickly (

).

 

2: But that's not all. Sometimes, when they throttle up, that specific sound appears real quickly when the engine revs up from idle and higher for a brief second and then dissappears again. See this moment for a reference:

I know this is the F version, but it happens with the C version also (

).

 

3: When they are on idle RPM and you are behind them, they sound similar to the one in DCS. But once they throttle up, there is a whole new sound effect that is completely missing in DCS. Once they throttle up, you kind of can hear the thrust coming out of it (Hard for me to describe it, you should hear it yourself for the best understanding). It sounds like a deep but not loud roar, I'd even go as far and describe it as a hollow sound, that's coming out and it is missing completely in DCS. See this moment (

) , pay attention to the sounds as he throttles up. This hollow sound is hearable as long as they move the throttle up or leave it. When they throttle down, it disappears.

 

You can also hear it a tiny bit in the upper links, but it is more noticable when they taxi away. But honestly, it is hard to find good videos with nice sound quality of it, but you can definitly hear it in the linked videos. If you still don't hear it, go to your next airbase which operates Hornets and you will definitly notice.

[Eldur]

Good point there. The sounds are awesome already, but this is the 20% on top needed to make them even more impressive and closer to the real thing.

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

yeah, a lot of sounds and details are missing.

 

Also, at the moment, the difference between idle and mil/full power (I think greatly related to what you are talking about) is pretty much none in both intensity (volume) and differentiability. There should be a HUGE difference in volume AND differentiability from idle to higher power states of the engines.

 

Also, something that worked years ago is lacking since a long time now...the distance effect in the sound...even a great distances, the changes in sounds are reflected almost instantly when there should be a proper LAG between power changes and the arrival of these sounds to the external viewer according to the distance. Is like the sound travels at light speed in DCS instead of sound speed.

 

The fade of the different samples playing depending on the aircrafts aspect is also very poor and should have a transient with long fade between them, now they just change almost instantly which makes the sound very odd in many situations, like the sound is cutting abruptly between samples.

[razo+r]

Wow... This is not a wish, it is a report that destinct features of this modelled aircraft is missing. How could this be a wish??

[Damien]

lol.... Can confirm this sound as well.. A low deep moan that you feel deep in your chest on startup.. I was an aircraft director in the Navy.. Started many many C (and later E and F) models on shore duty..

[razo+r]

So, any word on this missing feature / incomplete sounds?

[razo+r]

Still no plans to look into this? Then you might as well just cut this out of the product description: "Authentic Hornet sounds provided with the assistance of Boeing, the Hornet's manufacturer."

[Noluck]

lol.... Can confirm this sound as well.. A low deep moan that you feel deep in your chest on startup.. I was an aircraft director in the Navy.. Started many many C (and later E and F) models on shore duty..

 

Any idea what physically causes that 'whooot' sound when throttling up? Almost every turbine engine does that, even airliners. Change in airflow though the engine?

 

That would be a great sound to add to the F/A-18C in DCS.

 

 

Go NAVY!

 

 

--

[razo+r]

Such a shame that these rather not so small details are simply getting ignored.

[Bobik2002]

Such a shame that these rather not so small details are simply getting ignored.

Yeah maybe we will get it sometime.

[razo+r]

Even after today's sound update, there are still certain sounds missing or that could be improved.

[NoJoy]

The todays update states that sound is WIP still.

 

Edit: I do have some crackling sounds when panning around the plane after 09/18 OB update. Can't tell if it's a bug. Would be the wrong section here anyways...

Edited August 20, 2020 by AnimalMother711

[btd]

Even after today's sound update, there are still certain sounds missing or that could be improved.

 

Please check these videos from the trunk (working) version:

1)

The specific sound on startup now sounds longer. Although I think the problem not in the sound itself, but in the rate of increase of RPMs from 40% to 60%. But I added some solution

2)

Demonstration of missing sound when raise RPM from idle with full throttle + Rear Roar sound that you've missed earlier maybe.

 

Is it good enough?

Edited September 1, 2020 by btd

[razo+r]

1) Sounds good. Just to clarify, the sound on start up can vary between a very brief appearance and a really long appearance

 

Long:

 

short:

 

So, you can hear it's "random" / dynamic.

 

I personally would like to have both versions, but I don't know if it is technically possible and within your business scope. You decide of course.

 

2) I notice you added that specific start-up sound when you are throttling up, sounds good too. As before though, it is "random" / dynamic. Sometimes the sound appears, sometimes not (if I remember it correctly)

 

About the missing sound, I was more thinking of the short sound appearing when they throttle up from idle to XY%:

 

 

and

(Audio not quite good though)

 

I'd say you went into the right direction with the roar, just the very beginning part of it still seems to be either missing or not pronounced enough yet.

[bkthunder]

Would be great if you were able to have 2-3 different samples of those specific sound effects that play randomly, to add variety (e.g. short, long etc)

[btd]

1) So, you can hear it's "random" / dynamic.

Thanks for your message. Ok, I'll try to make different lengths. This is not a complete sample in DCS, but a loop file. I can customize its parameters.

 

2) Sometimes the sound appears, sometimes not (if I remember it correctly)

I think it depends on how quickly you do full throttle. That's how I did it. So if you move the throttle slowly - you will not get this sound.

 

About the missing sound, I was more thinking of the short sound appearing when they throttle up from idle to XY%:

I'm not sure if I understood the request exactly, but I'll try to do it, I'll show it in the video. Thanks

[btd]

About the missing sound, I was more thinking of the short sound appearing when they throttle up from idle to XY%

 

Please check it

Did I understand you correctly and Is that exactly what was missing?

thanks.

[razo+r]

Please check it

Did I understand you correctly and Is that exactly what was missing?

thanks.

 

Awesome! That definitly is going to the right direction.

[btd]

Awesome! That definitly is going to the right direction.

 

Many thanks for your help!

[Alpiinoo]

+1

[Zoli81]

Before someone asks if I got experience, yes, I worked 1 year with them from ground crew distance.

 

Now my complaints:

 

I'd say there are 3 major issues with the low RPM sounds of the Hornet engine, mainly from the rear.

 

1: When they start up the engines, that specific weird sound appears when the engine is close to the stable RPM. In DCS, the sound appears, does it stuff and fades away. While I have also encountered this in real life, it is not the only type of it that can happen. I also wittnessed slowly fading types of this sound and rarely even one that faded away really quickly (

).

 

2: But that's not all. Sometimes, when they throttle up, that specific sound appears real quickly when the engine revs up from idle and higher for a brief second and then dissappears again. See this moment for a reference:

I know this is the F version, but it happens with the C version also (

).

 

3: When they are on idle RPM and you are behind them, they sound similar to the one in DCS. But once they throttle up, there is a whole new sound effect that is completely missing in DCS. Once they throttle up, you kind of can hear the thrust coming out of it (Hard for me to describe it, you should hear it yourself for the best understanding). It sounds like a deep but not loud roar, I'd even go as far and describe it as a hollow sound, that's coming out and it is missing completely in DCS. See this moment (

) , pay attention to the sounds as he throttles up. This hollow sound is hearable as long as they move the throttle up or leave it. When they throttle down, it disappears.

 

You can also hear it a tiny bit in the upper links, but it is more noticable when they taxi away. But honestly, it is hard to find good videos with nice sound quality of it, but you can definitly hear it in the linked videos. If you still don't hear it, go to your next airbase which operates Hornets and you will definitly notice.

 

Ez a legjobb amit találtam!