Why we need a Sparrowhawk HUD

[viper2097]

Seems reasonable to me:

 

 

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[QuiGon]

Indeed, you can't do that with our current HUD :D

[Strikeeagle345]

I can get on this train.

[Sonoda Umi]

To be serious, I am really, really eager that Heatblur creates a Upgraded F-14B which has Sparrowhawk HUD, PTID and more newer display.

[viper2097]

To be serious, if you need a HUD and MFD's, fly a bug.

;)

 

Tomcat is perfectly fine as it is with the B, and it will be very puristic when the A comes...

[Sonoda Umi]

In addition, I have noticed an F-14B without Sparrowhawk having more information HUD reading(like F/A-18C), seeing 0:13. IMO this F-14B version would be a relatively realistic option for DCS F-14B.

[Sonoda Umi]

To be serious, if you need a HUD and MFD's, fly a bug.

;)

 

Tomcat is perfectly fine as it is with the B, and it will be very puristic when the A comes...

 

In fact, I have both F/A-18C and F-14B, and both of them have hundreds of flight hours.

[razo+r]

In addition, I have noticed an F-14B without Sparrowhawk having more information HUD reading(like F/A-18C), seeing 0:13. IMO this F-14B version would be a relatively realistic option for DCS F-14B.

 

that one also has a Sparrowhawk HUD. Look to the right, there you see the HUD frame.

[lunaticfringe]

In addition, I have noticed an F-14B without Sparrowhawk having more information HUD reading(like F/A-18C), seeing 0:13. IMO this F-14B version would be a relatively realistic option for DCS F-14B.

 

That's a Sparrowhawk with the camera shoved right up next to the glass. You can see the collimating glass frame on the sides.

[lunaticfringe]

Nice quickdraw, razo+r.

[Sonoda Umi]

That's a Sparrowhawk with the camera shoved right up next to the glass. You can see the collimating glass frame on the sides.

 

Acknowledge

[Sonoda Umi]

that one also has a Sparrowhawk HUD. Look to the right, there you see the HUD frame.

 

yea, I ignored it just now.

[ebabil]

what is the key for turning pages? shift+alt+p?

[Strikeeagle345]

what is the key for turning pages? shift+alt+p?

 

Up key + P then Down key + P. repeat until you reach the end. :thumbup::joystick:

[Gunslinger22]

Honestly since getting VR I have found the Tomcats HUD to hardly be an issue and have found it to be actually less stressful that I’m not getting information saturation like I get in the Hornet.

 

It performs perfectly for what it is required to do, in the A2A mode it gives you all the information you require for weapons employment. As for general flight, quickly glancing at the Mach Wheel or Altimeter is not even remotely an issue like it is with TrackIr. It actually feels very natural to glance at the flight instruments.

 

The complaints you see some people cry about on here though make you wonder how the aircraft was even able to stay in service for so long with its apparent ‘terrible cockpit layout’? :helpsmilie:

[Hummingbird]

I like the current HUD quite a lot myself, but I wouldn't say no to an upgraded F-14B with DFCS, IR TCS & Sparrowhawk HUD, that would be amazing.

[Pikey]

In addition, I have noticed an F-14B without Sparrowhawk having more information HUD reading(like F/A-18C), seeing 0:13. IMO this F-14B version would be a relatively realistic option for DCS F-14B.

 

 

I kept thinking this about my first wife and upgraded her too.

 

 

Then I realised that constant upgrades are incompatible with what I was originally looking for and began to want polygamy.

 

 

Then I realised having 7 different things I could never combine them into one to focus on as I couldn't spend time with more than one at a time when I wanted to.

 

 

And then it hit me. Perhaps I was never satisfied with what I had. There was always something different or better I wanted.

 

 

 

From that moment on, I calmed down and stopped wanting so much and I had peace of mind, which was all that I ever needed.

[lunaticfringe]

Honestly since getting VR I have found the Tomcats HUD to hardly be an issue and have found it to be actually less stressful that I’m not getting information saturation like I get in the Hornet.

 

There is a purity in its simplicity of what is presented head's up that is in many ways more effective than what came later, insofar as the process of doing the jet's actual job (ie, killing). The directness and clarity in the limited cues focuses the pilot on the task at hand. And to be honest, I find the three dimensional picture of an intercept as presented on the VDI plus TDI repeater more effective for prosecution than any MFD/HUD combination, in no small part because they're immediately adjacent.

 

As to the difference between TiR and VR, I've never had a problem seeing in the jet with the former, and to be honest suspect that it's as much of a user settings issue as the complaints about the jet lacking feedback. It's all there- you just have to tailor your setup accordingly.

[Eagle7907]

I think it would be okay to make it an OPTION. But I do like the antiquity of the current HUD. It makes dogfighting more interesting. Now, if I can just get my RIO to maintain lock then my heart will probably belong to this airframe for a long time.

 

 

 

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[Larkis]

It reminds me about archery.

 

Having a vusor, stabilizers and other supporting items gives you the pressure to hit the center. While shooting with a traditional bow gives more freedom and fun, cause its just your feelings and no science.

 

The planes feel similar. Getting all that sensor information in the F18 HUD gives me the feel that i MUST be good, that my Case1 is perfect and i catch the 3-wire. While flying Tomcat is moar like "yeah, hit the boat, where is the barbershop for my mustache and the volleyballfield?

 

And the old style HUD support that Feeling massivly. :D

[Chaogen]

I flew the 18 yesterday, pretty much for the first time since I got the Cat. Even though I fly the Harrier regularly as my A/G goto, the 18's HUD just is so cluttered. The F-14's instruments are clearly visible, as opposed to for instance the obscured RWR on the 18 forcing you to overlay it on the HUD, or lose a MFD, which is now even less of an option with the Targeting Pod. The E-Bracket on the Velocity vector is nauseating. And then to top it off I'm watching the airspeed dropping and getting nervous I'm going to stall it even though the AOA indicate say Fast. 6 months in and I still don't know the Cat's approach speed. I just don't reference speed when landing. It's all AOA and velocity vector.

 

As someone else said in another thread the 18 feels like a science experiment that you have to input just the right controls, read the exact measurements, have the perfect environmental variables and observe the plane doing its thing.

 

In my opinion the Cat is much more symbiotic, seat of your pants, Mk1 Eyeball, lets be spontaneous, I DON'T NEED A SHOOTING QUE, my speed is irrelevant, type flying that doesn't need a information overloaded HUD to make the magic happen.

[Eldur]

It reminds me about archery.

 

Having a vusor, stabilizers and other supporting items gives you the pressure to hit the center. While shooting with a traditional bow gives more freedom and fun, cause its just your feelings and no science.

 

 

That is some great experience to be made. I was a total newbie when I was one of 2 ppl in a group of 16 that even managed to hit the target at 40m distance. And it was twice with 3 shots. One was just 10cm off of the bullseye. I was proud. Never tried with any helping things and I don't want to, that all was just the traditional archery with an awesome Bodnik American Longbow.

 

 

I flew the 18 yesterday, pretty much for the first time since I got the Cat. Even though I fly the Harrier regularly as my A/G goto, the 18's HUD just is so cluttered. The F-14's instruments are clearly visible, as opposed to for instance the obscured RWR on the 18 forcing you to overlay it on the HUD, or lose a MFD, which is now even less of an option with the Targeting Pod. The E-Bracket on the Velocity vector is nauseating. And then to top it off I'm watching the airspeed dropping and getting nervous I'm going to stall it even though the AOA indicate say Fast. 6 months in and I still don't know the Cat's approach speed. I just don't reference speed when landing. It's all AOA and velocity vector.

 

But nevertheless I like having good HUDs, but as others already have said, it's better to have VR if you're not going to have a decent HUD. Getting off course/alt or even los without a butt meter while being heads down just for a glance is very easy, less so in VR though because it gives at least some peripheral vision.

 

 

But I never get the clutter thingy... never had problems with too much information on any screen, and I've yet to find a declutter switch that doesn't remove some of the most essential information when being switched on. I never use those because of that... guess I'm just good at sorting out things myself. The only things I don't like are dovetails covering up my TVV/E-Bracket on finals which is why I always disable the HUD EW when going for mother's. Oh, and I disable that useless clock in my startup procedure

 

 

And I still don't know the landing speed of my Eightteen. Why should I? Just guessing it's somewhere around 120-140ish, but I never really check it even though it's up there...

[viper2097]

I'm pretty sure that the F-14 makes you a mich better Pilot because you need a lot more senses to fly it. Not just watching the HUD.

I still like the comparsion of the F-18 as minivan and the F-14 as muscle car.

Not because it down sets the bug, just because it is really applicable.

[IronMike]

The version (timeframe) of the B we created simply did not have a sparrowhawk hud, so that will not be an option, sorry about that.