Surviving in Multiplayer?

[WelshZeCorgi]

Anyone have success in the Harrier online? Flew all day in the Sidewinder server, but cannot get within 5 miles of my target before getting killed by F14s

[Nealius]

Taking a ground-pounder on a PvP server is a recipe for disaster without coordinated human A2A escort or CAP. PvE would be a much better fit.

[Oceandar]

I agree. For the Harrier to survive you need fighters cover. Ask friends to play role as CAP's and make good coordination also one of the keys to success.

[arturojgt]

As a AV8B enthusiast the above statement is totally true, you need an strong CAP.

 

 

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[Captain Orso]

...or you need to avoid the enemy.

 

I've been playing a lot of Georgia At War. There is very little AG-A2A coordination. In fact, at any given time, you can count on at least half the F-14's and FA-18's to be doing your ground-pounding mission, instead of doing CAP. I've been tempted to go out with just 4 sidewinders and two wing tank because the jackasses just won't do their jobs.

 

That being said, depending on when it is in the campaign, there can be a lot of AG work far from the areas frequented by enemy fighters. Having 1 sidewinders on a wingtip for just-in-case is however almost mandatory... oh, and always monitor the AWACS channel.

[Harlikwin]

I dunno, its usually not so bad on GAW. I've even flow CAP for helos using the harrier before from a FARP. AI is usually stupid enough for me to be able to kill em before they kill me.

 

On a PVP server though, the harrier would be among my last choices. The only pro-tip I would offer is to stay low and try to use terrain masking as much as possible.

[Nealius]

GAW is PvE, which is perfectly suitable for the Harrier. OP was talking about PvP.

[Cornelius]

He was talking about Multiplayer:smartass:

[Coxy_99]

Anyone have success in the Harrier online? Flew all day in the Sidewinder server, but cannot get within 5 miles of my target before getting killed by F14s

 

Try 104th server instead targets are more accessible. Sidewinder is just quake 99% of the time.

[Captain Orso]

GAW is PvE, which is perfectly suitable for the Harrier. OP was talking about PvP.

 

There is some PvP on GAW, but you are right; it is mostly PvE

[Harlikwin]

There is some PvP on GAW, but you are right; it is mostly PvE

 

LOL...

[Captain Orso]

HAHAHA.... :huh: waaa....?

[Mecrutio]

I tend to avoid the opposition radar with ground masking.

 

Figure out your target and it's location. Decide on a single strike load out. (You're only getting one shot at it)

 

Figure out fuel.

 

Look at the map and find a good route thru valleys. Enter in your waypoints thru these valleys.

 

During ingress, keep the RWR EMPTY!! Any hits for any length of time procures an opposition AWACS call.

 

Egress back thru valleys. HP should be a waypoint, just steer kinda to it until out of the valleys and within HP SAM coverage.

 

You can do it. Prepare to die a lot. But you can do it, the reward is worth the risk.

 

Practice offline. The Harrier is a straight PIG with a full load out and fuel.

 

Snakeyes + DMT are my choice. Stay 200' of the deck, pop up to 400', aim, pickle, DODGE, DIP, DIVE, DUCK AND DODGE! run home. It's why she is the U.S. Marines choice of CAS.

[Fisu_MAD]

Stay low like a snake if you get rwr contacts in your route

Turn off lights

If you are detected use your BFM and ECM , flares and chaff. Its easy avoid a missile at low altitude

Load at least 1 sidewinder because your gun it's not guide

Use chat for CAP help or SRS o TS

[Harlikwin]

 

Snakeyes + DMT are my choice. Stay 200' of the deck, pop up to 400', aim, pickle, DODGE, DIP, DIVE, DUCK AND DODGE! run home. It's why she is the U.S. Marines choice of CAS.

 

You'd make Patches O'houlihan proud.

 

 

If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a SAM.

[Mohamengina]

I've tried 3 times this week to do the side missions on the growling sidewinder (pvp) server and each time I've been shot down before I even got close to the targets.

 

This is even when I'm flying low to the ground and trying to avoid detection.

[Captain Orso]

Yeah, the idea that you can evade radar that's not 30+ miles away is ... fanciful, unless you are in a deep valley with zero LOS.

 

There is no, nor will there ever be a 100% solution to enemy cap other than friendly cap.

[Harlikwin]

Yeah, the idea that you can evade radar that's not 30+ miles away is ... fanciful, unless you are in a deep valley with zero LOS.

 

There is no, nor will there ever be a 100% solution to enemy cap other than friendly cap.

 

Yup. Flying low and using terrain masking is helpful with ground based radars. Not so much for the god's eye view AWACS has, or enemy CAP. If you can see that bit of sky it can see you too.