joey45 Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 RAF Phantom - beautiful paint scheme, I wish we'd get the RAF's F-4s in DCS, even if just AI: Different engines which meant a change in fuselage.. Completely different radar and avionics suit.. Might aswel Do the K Variant so everyone will be happy. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Pilotasso Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 So we're replacing the Nimrod with a much older aircraft...... Way to go UK Gov't...:thumbup: Not everything is bad. :) you guys got new fighter capability in the last few years something that was absent since the retirement of the lightning, and re-gaining vertical capability in the not too distant future also. .
joey45 Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Got some issues here... you guys got new fighter capability in the last few years something that was absent since the retirement of the lightning I take it that you are refering to the Typhoon 2 Where 2 brand new fighters hot off the production line flew and landed at their new base only to be cannibalised for parts because the UK Gov't can't afford/forgot to order parts... oh and 1 maybe 2 flown to Italy for a short war that were only there for parts??? and re-gaining vertical capability in the not too distant future also. :megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol: etcetc The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Pilotasso Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 be glad your getting them at all. Over here, we have only money for Cessnas as F-16 replacements right now. :D .
Eddie Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Got some issues here... I take it that you are refering to the Typhoon 2 Where 2 brand new fighters hot off the production line flew and landed at their new base only to be cannibalised for parts because the UK Gov't can't afford/forgot to order parts... oh and 1 maybe 2 flown to Italy for a short war that were only there for parts??? :megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol: etcetc There's just a little more to it than that.
joey45 Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 The gov't buy all this kit with no spares for a few months/week/years... Oh and the Supersonic harrier aka F35B is a waste of money. IMHO be glad your getting them at all. Over here, we have only money for Cessnas as F-16 replacements right now. :D Would of been cheaper to buy used F-15/16 with spares then the EF200.... just like our new plane to replace the ageing Nimrod.... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Eddie Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) The gov't buy all this kit with no spares for a few months/week/years... Oh and the Supersonic harrier aka F35B is a waste of money. IMHO Would of been cheaper to buy used F-15/16 with spares then the EF200.... just like our new plane to replace the ageing Nimrod.... You need to stop believing everything you read in the newspapers. Not buying spares isn't the issue, nor has it ever been. The issue is that half the time with a new type you can't predict what spares you will need until the systems are mature. So often there are requirements for spares that haven't even been manufactured in any quantity. There is also the fact that there is little point buying vast amounts of equipment that will be obsolete in a few months. And given the pace of upgrades on Typhoon since it first entered service, that is a constant factor. But the big overriding fact is that quite simply, we are not in the depths of the Cold War anymore. It is simply not possible to have several £Billion worth of "spares" sat in warehouses doing absolutely nothing. Seriously, there are spares for Tornado and other older aircraft that sit on shelves for years, without ever being used. So much so that extra manpower is needed simply to carry out maintenance on spares that have been sat on shelves because their storage life expires. Oh and we didn't take a jet out to Ellamy to be robbed for spares, that is utter rubbish. And the serviceability rate of Typhoon was much higher than the Tornados. Edited May 20, 2013 by Eddie
IvanK Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Lucas the Spit is a MKIIA its got the Coffman starter blister just behind the spinner :)
Lucas_From_Hell Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Cheers IvanK, fixed it and added some info and a nice link :)
marcos Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 The gov't buy all this kit with no spares for a few months/week/years... Oh and the Supersonic harrier aka F35B is a waste of money. IMHO I can't believe we're not even getting that until 2020. I honestly can't figure out which is more of a waste - the time or the money?
Griffin Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150464868594021&set=o.33519393793&type=1&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150458535467613&set=o.33519393793&type=1&relevant_count=1 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150435938166030&set=o.33519393793&type=1&relevant_count=1 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2026859866854&set=o.33519393793&type=1&relevant_count=1 Edited May 21, 2013 by Griffin
112th_Rossi Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Seems odd to me that the Queen Elizabeth class Carrier will be in service years before it has the ability to carry aircraft. I know the old carriers needed replacing but to not have the forethought to have both the aircraft and the carrier operational at the same time is a tad embarrassing.
GripenNG Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Awesome pics you´ve found there Griffin! :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Snooze-81st-vFS
Griffin Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Yeah I just found the Draken Facebook page. So much awesome stuff! Check the Funny Stuff thread for a naughty one. ;)
joey45 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Seems odd to me that the Queen Elizabeth class Carrier will be in service years before it has the ability to carry aircraft. I know the old carriers needed replacing but to not have the forethought to have both the aircraft and the carrier operational at the same time is a tad embarrassing. They [the Gov't] was fart arsing about to which version of the F-35 they would buy. The original contract for the CVF was a quick change to/from a ski resort/proper carrier... We are getting a Helicopter carrier ... :cry: that can have a plane take off under it's own power. But IF the Gov't want to convert it to a proper carrier then it will cost even more money then originally planed.. It'll be the biggest ship in RN history but still smaller then your Nimitz Class. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
marcos Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 They [the Gov't] was fart arsing about to which version of the F-35 they would buy. The original contract for the CVF was a quick change to/from a ski resort/proper carrier... We are getting a Helicopter carrier ... :cry: that can have a plane take off under it's own power. But IF the Gov't want to convert it to a proper carrier then it will cost even more money then originally planed.. It'll be the biggest ship in RN history but still smaller then your Nimitz Class. In hindsight I would have done the following. Instead of developing the EF2000, I would have developed a stealth STOBAR-capable aircraft with EF-like performance (keeping the French on-board with the EF program). That might have taken an extra 5-10 years to build and would have cost more but it would have been: a) Ready before the F-35; and b) Salable. I would have made 2 STOBAR carriers. To allow for bad weather carrier-ops I'd have then purchased maybe 20 F-35Bs, which would be funded by sales of the above aircraft.
topol-m Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) the first one is too big so I'm posting it as a thumbnail Edited May 23, 2013 by topol-m [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Alex_Po Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 the first one is too bit so I'm posting it as a thumbnail What is the missile? Форум DCS Aviasibir Server Канал DCS Aviasibir Server в Telegram MSI P67A-C45 (B3) /Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3 (4.5) ГГц / SSD Plextor M5 Pro 128Gb / 32 Gb CORSAIR Vengeance / ASUS HD 7970 DirectCU II TOP 3Gb / БП Chieftec 750W // DELL U2410 / TrackIR 5 + TrackClip PRO / Saitek X-52Pro (мех-ка BRD-X) + педали BRD-M2 :joystick: :pilotfly:
112th_Rossi Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 What is the missile? Erm looks like 2x AIM 120s and a centre line fuel tank
Lucas_From_Hell Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Thought they were AIM-120B too but the fins were too long. I believe they're actually AIM-7 Sparrows. See the similar long fins and the stripes painted behind the seeker. I knew the Super Hornet could carry them, but I didn't know they were still being used operationally.
aaron886 Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Seeing as it's a blue-banded training weapon, it's just dead weight/drag index. Probably there for that reason.
PeCa_Chuck Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) The AIM-7 is believed for countering cruise missile. NF tail fighters carry it quite often. (except Glowlers) The spotter's blog based at NAF Atsugi, Japan. http://robinbirds.exblog.jp/17726400/ Edited May 23, 2013 by PeCa_Chuck
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