When is Vulkan or When is VR help coming?

[Flarpt]

I have failed in searches for info here.

Finding a lot of conflicting posting about it, but no solid facts yet. It has been almost 2 years now hearing about it in I think late 2017 maybe? I am hoping to learn something from a Dev or something that is factual and not opinion.

 

Please do not convert this thread into a, "Post your Specs so we can tell you to buy more expensive hardware" thread. Which is pretty much 98% of all forum material summed up. My kind request is only wishing to learn of any factual DCS engine Specs change, not my specs.☺

 

I am only interested in learning about actual and literal Vulkan implementation info or other update type that will improve the VR framerates for us non-elite hardware owners☺.

 

I thank you ahead of time and hope for a FUN and surprising answer☺

[dburne]

Search turned this thread up pretty quickly. Might have a read through it, consists of many pages...

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217784&highlight=dcs+vulcan+support

[Mr_sukebe]

See the interview with Matt W and mud spike. That suggested that it would be Vulkan with a new/updated engine, potentially next year.

[Flarpt]

Search turned this thread up pretty quickly. Might have a read through it, consists of many pages...

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217784&highlight=dcs+vulcan+support

 

Yep, read that too thanks, took me no time to find as well. It is a Vulkan thread but does not answer anything I asked about. So, not really an answer that satisfies anything as most of the posts are people bickering over whether or not Vulkan is valid, even though it drastically HELPS all the new games I have played with it. And alothough Fly Inside, Xplane etc many others benefit massively from it. Who has time to waste reading 30 pages of bickering back and forth?

 

Also we had all heard last year that it might be this year.

Now you are saying maybe next year...

That's just not really good enough of an answer. "Maybe next X-year" is not honestly a valid answer to customers investing thousands into planes, maps and equipment for the privilege of playing DCS. Just speaking straight here.

 

The answer for DCS customers owning mid-range systems should never be,

"Buy more expensive hardware and wait 3 years",

when the answer COULD & SHOULD BE, "Lets unclog this decades past engine of the new stuff not really working for low to mid-range rig customers and somehow provide the other 50+% of gamers & simmers a means to play too.

More players = more $$.

This way DCS wins making more $$$,a nd low to mid range customers can fly above slideshow levels.

* The tech is there already to profit from in older versions of DCS back to Lomac and Flogger.

* Lots of producers are bringing back old titles for VR and making $$$

Just like IL2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad.......

 

So once again I submit to the Devs, Wags and those in the know and control:

 

* While all of us invested players await "next year maybe" for yet another year, Why not consider one of my solutions to help make DCS more playable on Low to mid-range systems?

 

Maybe some things to consider might be:

1. Increase the VR options that cull out the major fps killer things.

 

2. A VR version that runs with lesser graphics, view/lod distances and more VR fps shader friendly substitutes.

 

3. Perhaps some rollback to 2.1 or another more VR/fps friendly version of DCS

 

Until Vulkan is released, some day maybe next year, everyone could be a winner if players with lesser rigs could run the game like the rest of us flyers. And more options ain't a bad thing.

[Dagger71]

So what are your hardware specs and what settings are you currently using in VR?

[Sniper175]

You act as if your suggestions are original? They have been suggested for years.... Vulcan is either coming now or will be much down the road. No one knows except the coders.

 

VR runs amazing on my end. They can take as long as they need so it’s a well finished upgrade when it does come out in a couple year.

 

 

Again you sound and act like a troll, what are your specs........

[Svsmokey]

I bought a NEW Ryzen 5, 1050ti with 4mb, 16 gb ram on pc, SSD drive instal, win 10, and I have everything off in background just to run dcs....]

 

Well , there is this from last year

[Dagger71]

I bought a NEW Ryzen 5, 1050ti with 4mb, 16 gb ram on pc, SSD drive instal, win 10, and I have everything off in background just to run dcs....]

 

Well , there is this from last year

Ouch! That would crawl on a single monitor cant imagine that working in VR at all

[kunos]

That's just not really good enough of an answer. "Maybe next X-year" is not honestly a valid answer to customers investing thousands into planes, maps and equipment for the privilege of playing DCS.

 

You are not "investing" in anything, you are buying a product in order to use it, as it is.

 

If you are buying planes and maps because you think something will happen in 1,2,3 years you are doing it wrong.

 

When I order a pizza I am not "investing" in the pizzeria, I am buying a pizza to eat it.

[BIGNEWY]

 

Maybe some things to consider might be:

1. Increase the VR options that cull out the major fps killer things.

 

2. A VR version that runs with lesser graphics, view/lod distances and more VR fps shader friendly substitutes.

 

3. Perhaps some rollback to 2.1 or another more VR/fps friendly version of DCS

 

Until Vulkan is released, some day maybe next year, everyone could be a winner if players with lesser rigs could run the game like the rest of us flyers. And more options ain't a bad thing.

 

Hi

 

to try and answer your points here

 

1. we have a VR preset in settings. this is a good starting point for VR settings, removing shadows will help on low end systems.

 

2. It would not be possible to run a different version just for VR it would take to many man hours to implement and check in parallel with our other versions ( release / open beta )

 

3.Rolling back would not help, it would also mean that modules not built for that version would not work. So it is not an option that we would entertain.

 

 

Vulkan will make things much better, but it is a very difficult process changing DCSWorld over to run it.

It is a high priority and the team are working very hard for it, but it will take time.

When we have more to share with you all we will.

 

Even with Vulkan, if you system is low end you will still have to make compromises to get the best out of DCS

 

DCSWord specification, these are unlikely to change for when Vulkan is implemented.

 

Minimum system requirements (LOW graphics settings): OS 64-bit Windows 7/8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Intel Core i3 at 2.8 GHz or AMD FX; RAM: 8 GB (16 GB for heavy missions); Free hard disk space: 60 GB; Discrete video card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 / AMD R9 280X or better; requires internet activation.

 

Recommended system requirements (HIGH graphics settings): OS 64-bit Windows 8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i5+ at 3+ GHz or AMD FX / Ryzen; RAM: 16 GB (32 GB for heavy missions); Free hard disk space: 120 GB on Solid State Drive (SSD); Discrete video card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 / AMD Radeon RX VEGA 56 with 8GB VRAM or better; Joystick; requires internet activation.

 

Recommended VR systems requirements (VR graphics settings): OS 64-bit Windows 8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i5+ at 3+ GHz or AMD FX / Ryzen; RAM: 16 GB (32 GB for heavy missions); Free hard disk space: 120 GB on Solid State Drive (SSD); Discrete video card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 / AMD Radeon RX VEGA 64 or better; Joystick; requires internet activation.

 

 

Thanks for your patience

[Gnadentod]

You are not "investing" in anything, you are buying a product in order to use it, as it is.

 

If you are buying planes and maps because you think something will happen in 1,2,3 years you are doing it wrong.

 

When I order a pizza I am not "investing" in the pizzeria, I am buying a pizza to eat it.

 

I've literally waited months until the first one comes around to correct the ones always saying "investing" rather than buying. There he is. Kudos, if I'd wear hats I'd probably pull mine off for you.