BUY 2080TI FOR VR OR NOT?!?

[doclucio]

Hi guys,first of all merry christmas everyone,

i am currently running dcs in vr with valve index on i7 8700 (OC TO 5GHZ) and 1080ti (OC), i run it pretty well at stable 45fps. I noticed that my gpu usage is rarely above 65%.

The question is: upgrading to 2080ti will give me a stable 90fps or some better graphic candies?!?

As i am now (65%) usage means i can squeeze something more from my card?!? And if yes what are the settings that are used by the gpu only?!?

Thks for your answers

[Eldur]

I guess it's not worth the utterly insane price tag if you already run a 1080ti which is already faster than the 2080. The ti wouldn't be that much better. The whole RTX 20x0 gen is mainly better at doing that RTX stuff the old cards can't do - not very good though as it's the first gen. And the lack of games (won't even dare to say sims) with RTX support though.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Over the past few months my 1080Ti slowly died (faulty VRAM). I started saving some money, but I'm curious myself about VR performance in DCS of a 2080Super vs 2080Ti (the 3080 series is likely at least 6 months away so I doubt I'll wait for that one)...

 

But if you already have a working 1080Ti, I indeed don't see the point in upgrading. I wouldn't have, if I had the choice: I'd wait for a 3080Ti or even 4080Ti...

[TOYKILLA]

I had the 1080Ti Black Edition before and the overclocked 2080Ti was a good Step forward for me. I playing only in VR,Flightsimulation and Simracing.

 

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[webb2526]

I have the RTX 2080 MSI gaming trio, and it's fantastic in VR.

 

Obviously spending more will get you more performance but the 2080 is easily good enough for me!

Edited December 25, 2019 by webb2526
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[Mr. Big.Biggs]

Fwiw I have a 2080ti w

The rest of the components as listed in my signature and a valve index.

I’m on what I would consider low to medium settings and I manage 40 ish fps.

Sounds to me like you got the better value if your really steady at 45

Your mileage may vary

[doclucio]

i am quite happy with the fps, i noticed that my gpu is underutilized so i was wondering if crancking up some settings i can reach 90 or 95% for the graphic card. Do you know what are the settings that are used mainly by gpu?!?

for the graphic card i will wait the next gen and maybe some optimization of dcs engine

[Bearskin]

Here you go mate, a VR benchmark for the 2080 and 1080ti.

 

 

https://babeltechreviews.com/the-rtx-2080-vs-the-gtx-1080-ti-in-vr-revisited/

 

 

Personally if I had a 1080ti I wouldn't have bought the 2080, but coming from a 970, the 2080 was a must for me for VR.

 

 

I am on high settings, medium water and flat shadows, 1024 every frame in the cockpit, MSAA 4X, AA 16X no SSAA and a PD of 1.7 and hold a steady 45 FPS, 90 FPS when I look at a clear sky. :P

Edited December 25, 2019 by Bearskin

[Fri13]

2080 Ti vs 2080 S is more interesting question. I don't see a reason to pay 1200-1400€ for a Ti version when S is for 750-850€. That extra 400-700€ can be far better invested to something else like HOTAS, RAM or even a SSD.

 

When the Vulcan gets implemented, new weather system, new terrain engine, new graphics engine etc. Then we get the status that how much is really required for next 5 years. And at that time when those gets out, 3000 series can be out and 4000 series coming. And then that saved money is just that, saved money for far better card than 2080Ti is.

[TOYKILLA]

For DCS in VR, need every power you can get. My Ti is also 200Mhz Overclocked to squeeze the last FPS out of it.

 

If you have low FPS,Ghosting and Stuttering in VR,the best Hotas System wouldn't make you happy

 

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[doclucio]

the difference between the 1080ti and 2080ti in vr benchmarks is huge, money is not a problem, i saw an msi 2080ti OC ventus at 1070 euros but my doubt was if it can be used effectively in dcs, i play also racing sims like ACC, AC, RRE, PC2. I saw in lots of videos that the gpus (mine 1080ti also) are underused in dcs.

I was thinking if the jump was worth it

[BitMaster]

If it's only pocket money, heck why not ? Sell your old 1080ti and gain some extra fps.

 

Will it solve all your FPS issues ? No, certainly not but it's another step towards your goal.

 

 

Again, this answer is only valid if you pay if with your hobby cash and won't have to suffer elsewhere.

If the price is a significant cut in your monthly budget then my answer would be NO, it's not worth it.

 

Kind of biased here, it's a "how much money can you sink for a hobby"

[Fri13]

With 2080S you get as much stutter as you get with 2080Ti, only when you push to extreme settings that you can't really enjoy visually as difference you start to gain benefits from Ti over S.

 

That is reason why you can save money, as in future the Vulcan is more definitive factor that how much processing is required.

[Bearskin]

I just watched the Dirt rally, iracing benchmark video for the 1080ti vs 2080ti, solid 90fps on high settings on the 2080ti against 45 - 70 on the 1080 ti. If you have the money mate, go for the 2080ti, you have my blessing :) DCS VR is only going to get better with the VR and terrain updates too and TBH who wants to wait for the 30 series NVidia cards when they could be more expensive and not much greater performance.

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

I can give it a slight boost, like 100 and 200 on memory. After that I get random eye black out flashes and outright crashes.

[*Rage*]

A 2080ti will give 20-30% better fps in VR vs a 1080ti. IN absolute terms that means going from 35fps to 42 fps. But it may be enough to give you better experience.

[doclucio]

OK i think i am getting an msi ventus 2080ti oc for 1070 euros, then after the 3080ti i will think about the upgrade...

I was wondering (i am on valve index) maybe on 120hz with reprojection alwais on i could get 60 fps stable with the new 2080ti?!? Anyone tried this?!?

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

I get 40 stable at 60hz on my index fwiw. Pc listed below is no slouch however I may be configuring crap wrong. I have followed a ton of advice on these boards but that’s all she wrote... Not sure I got my money’s worth out of The index but I own it so it is what it is.

Edited December 26, 2019 by Mr. Big.”Biggs”

[Fri13]

A 2080ti will give 20-30% better fps in VR vs a 1080ti. IN absolute terms that means going from 35fps to 42 fps. But it may be enough to give you better experience.

 

Once you hit the lower stable FPS for the VR (like 40 or 45 FPS) then you need to be in near threshold for the 80/90 FPS to get that value of the 2080Ti card over anything else. But as those 40/45 can offer great experience, the key difference really is at the <40/45 range where one would not reach that lower stable FPS level with anything else than 2080 Ti.

[doclucio]

i have solid stable 45fps now with my 1080ti, with reprojection always on (about 45% reprojection), i think with a 2080ti i can reach stable 60fps with reprojection on. I will give you my settings for the index to reach stable 45. This sim rocks, hope they go to the new (better) graphic engine soon and implement the random campaign soon...

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

Would be very interested in your settings.

Thanks

[doclucio]

i am out for holidays, i will post my settings as soon as i can, i will be home on 5 of jan. what i remember is: 90hz with 100% resolution and reprojection always on on steam vr settings, 1.2PD, MSAA off, textures on high, shadows low and flat.

On nvidia control panel fxaa ON, and high perfomance in the various settings. The other settings are coming after 5 of jan.

[dburne]

Yes for VR and especially DCS in VR get the most you can, in this case currently 2080 Ti.

Whether it is worth the high cost is quite subjective to the individual.

 

There is no GPU or rig currently, that will give one constant fps above ASW or Motion Reprojection. All one can do is get as close as can. I found with my 2080 Ti it did not give me so great an increase in FPS per se, but more so allowed me to run higher GFX settings and still be smooth. And I do like me some good graphics.

[Gunnars Driver]

DCS have very high demands on the CPU single core performance for VR.

 

When a 2080ti gives good gains over a 1080ti in other games, you could be sitting with a CPU that limit the DCS performance by single core calculations. In this case you might get a smaller difference in DCS when upgrading the video card.

 

I just when from i7 3770K@4.7Ghz/16mb/GTX1080 8Gb to i9 9900KS@5Ghz/32mb/RTX2080ti 11Gb and with the same settings as before its a bit more prone to keeping 90hz over a flight but the difference isnt huge. I think this small difference comes mainly from the increased clock giving the CPU a greater single core performance. The GTX1080 didnt up at 100% load.

 

I think its good to be aware if the DCS CPU demands setting the limit for performance in VR.

( never really used DCS without VR so I dont know that part).

[TOYKILLA]

For a better Single Core performance in DCS, you have also turn off CPU Hyperthreading before you overclocking to the Maximum.

 

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