D4n Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) It's getting quite boring currently to see EVERY single F-16 player on multiplayer servers with the same "GAMBLER" skin over and over. Please randomize which skin (of all DCS-included F-16 skins + these 3 high-quality skins listed below) gets applied (upon player spawn). https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306811/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306812/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306586/ Edited May 27, 2022 by D4n DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Deano87 Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 Or... the mission designer for the online mission can just set each aircraft in the mission to a unique skin. Saves the Devs having to implement a whole new function where their time can be better spent elsewhere. 1 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
Dagger71 Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 Or... the mission designer for the online mission can just set each aircraft in the mission to a unique skin. Saves the Devs having to implement a whole new function where their time can be better spent elsewhere. ^^^^^^ The availability of skins is 100% left up to the mission designers. 1
D4n Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 Not if ED adds the following 5 realistic F-16 textures into the DCS ASAP, then ED could auto-enable this feature: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306811/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306812/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306484/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306586/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3307037/ DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 Or... the mission designer for the online mission can just set each aircraft in the mission to a unique skin. Saves the Devs having to implement a whole new function where their time can be better spent elsewhere. Our mission designer is busy enough with lots of things. ED has tons of programmers, of which many could add this DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Deano87 Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) I’d prefer they spend time fixing the bugs rather then writing some skin randomisation code. And anyway any pilot can pick whatever skin they like using the rearming window. What you’re asking for will happen by itself as soon as ED start putting in their own skins and mission designers start using them. Also it’s just eye candy so it’s not actually important like getting working IFF / Data Link or having a TLL in the HUD that works correctly, so you can like... actually use the aircraft. Edited December 28, 2019 by Deano87 3 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
D4n Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 What you’re asking for will happen by itself as soon as ED start putting in their own skins and mission designers start using them. exactly, we don't even know if they even started working on their own skins yet... that's the thing DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Deano87 Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 exactly, we don't even know if they even started working on their own skins yet... that's the thing https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4137361&postcount=33 Its coming, as mentioned above. Just have patience. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
D4n Posted December 28, 2019 Author Posted December 28, 2019 I just hope they'll not "waste" time on creating skins from scratch that are already out there in user files... o_o DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Airhunter Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 I just hope they'll not "waste" time on creating skins from scratch that are already out there in user files... o_o They should since the model will most likely change as it's not finished yet. Just like they did for the Hornet. There also aren't that many Blk. 50 operators worldwide so I'd like to see all those done.
D4n Posted December 28, 2019 Author Posted December 28, 2019 There also aren't that many Blk. 50 operators worldwide so I'd like to see all those done. How do you know how many there are? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Jetguy06 Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 How do you know how many there are? It's pretty simple. The USAF has three combat wings flying Block 50s: 20th Fighter Wing, comprised of the 77th Fighter Squadron (currently the default skin for the DCS Viper), 55th FS, and 79th FS, Shaw AFB, South Carolina. The 52nd FW, comprised of the 480th FS, and prior to August 2010, the 22nd FS and 23rd FS, Spangdahlem AFB, Germany. The 35th FW, comprised of the 13th FS and 14th FS, Misawa AFB, Japan. The ANG has only one wing flying Block 50s: 148th FW, 179th FS, Minnesota ANG. There is a Testing and Evaluation Squadron based out of Eglin AFB, Florida (85th TES, 53rd Wing), but they are non-combat. There is also the South Carolina ANG (169th FW, 157th FS), but they fly Block 52s, not 50s. Luke AFB, Arizona also has the 425th FS of the 56th FW, but again, they fly Block 52s. They are also non-combat as they are a training wing. There may be other countries that fly Block 50s, but ED has modeled the USAF/ANG Block 50 Viper, not a foreign one.
Slug72 Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 ISTR a post some time ago that indicated that ED intends including liveries for all period-correct USAF units, with a strong hint that they'll also include some foreign Block 50 operators. We'll have to rely on the many talented community artists to provide for our non-Block 50 needs. Given the current selection available in the User Files section, even at this stage of development, I'd say we have little to worry about. ;) i9-9900K @5GHz, Z390 Aorus Pro, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz, EVGA RTX 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra, Seasonic Focus+ Platinum 850W PSU, TM Warthog HOTAS, CH Pro pedals, 2x MFD's, MT deskmounts, Asus 32" 1440p display, EDTracker Pro Wireless, HP Reverb
JUICE-AWG Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Hurry up and wait! "There are only two types of aircraft, Fighters and Targets." Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
D4n Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 Given the current selection available in the User Files section, even at this stage of development, I'd say we have little to worry about. ;) exactly! :thumbup: DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
carss Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Not if ED adds the following 5 realistic F-16 textures into the DCS ASAP, then ED could auto-enable this feature: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306811/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306812/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306484/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306586/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3307037/ I support that, however I dearly hope each skin is assigned to their respective factions, as I don't want to fly an American F-16 and have the choice of choosing ever single country flying the F-16 on the same side, including Red F-16s. I really hope they don't do what they did with the Mig-21 skins 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry:
Agg Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 Not if ED adds the following 5 realistic F-16 textures into the DCS ASAP, then ED could auto-enable this feature: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306811/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306812/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306484/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306586/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3307037/ To be fair, not a single one of those skins are "realistic", the Dutch, Belgians and Danes fly Block 20 MLUs, the Aviano Vipers are Block 40s and the Pakistani ones are a mix of Block 20 MLUs and Block 52s. I don't mind semi-fictional skins, but let's have the non-fictional ones first.
D4n Posted December 30, 2019 Author Posted December 30, 2019 But aren't all non-fictional skins purely american? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted December 30, 2019 Author Posted December 30, 2019 Turkey + Greece fly Blk 50? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
JUICE-AWG Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) I just hope they'll not "waste" time on creating skins from scratch that are already out there in user files... o_o This would be an excellent opportunity for ED to reach out to the community artists to contribute in projects like this. Compensate them with Miles/Bonus/Contribution Credit by Name, and say thanks to them for volunteering. This same approach could be used to help speed up tutorial missions, campaigns, etc. Quote: Originally Posted by Dagger71 ^^^^^^ The availability of skins is 100% left up to the mission designers. Not necessarily true at the current state of the F-16C. There is only one skin available for the F-16C and if the mission maker adds additional liveries, clients joining the mission without those custom liveries will not see the skins. I think the original request was to please introduce new skins soon with a big thanks on the end! The Skins could cover the Block 50/52 for additional variety. The goal should be to offer a wide selection of skins with a consideration to realism and perhaps some legacy models too. What Blocks are serving in the Thunderbirds now? Also, although an F-16N (Block 30) is used for aggressor navy aircraft, it would be nice to have a skin for that too! We should also consider that the P-51D is no longer in active service, but we have plenty of skins to honor those units of yesteryear. And the fictional skins like RAF, Russia, and such like they did with the F/A-18C would be nice for faction balance of skins available to use. I'm sure ED Devs are working on plenty of skins and just like the external lights, functional systems, and other stuff, we just need to be patient. =JUICE= Edited December 30, 2019 by =JUICE= "There are only two types of aircraft, Fighters and Targets." Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
drPhibes Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 Turkey + Greece fly Blk 50? It's almost impossible to figure this out. Someone should invent a search engine so we could look up stuff on the internet.
D4n Posted May 27, 2022 Author Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) Over 2 years later, still waiting for this massive boredness-factor to be addressed by you, ED. On 12/26/2019 at 7:30 PM, D4n said: It's getting quite boring currently to see EVERY single F-16 player on multiplayer servers with the same "GAMBLER" skin over and over. Please randomize which skin (of all DCS-included F-16 skins + these 3 high-quality skins listed below) gets applied (upon player spawn). https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306811/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306812/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306586/ Edited May 27, 2022 by D4n DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
WHOGX5 Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 16 hours ago, D4n said: Over 2 years later, still waiting for this massive boredness-factor to be addressed by you, ED. This will never be addressed because no one cares about it except you. If you're not happy having everyone fly with the same skins all the time, then join another server, join a community, whatever you need to do to end up in a place where people change skins. Maybe you can even start your own community where the gimmick is that everyone changes skins after each respawn? A livery randomizer will never be implemented so you can stop bumping this thread. 3 -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante
D4n Posted May 28, 2022 Author Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) Where does your hostile attitude come from? Are you related to the Gambler unit in any way in reality? Edited May 28, 2022 by D4n DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
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