Collective stick mods

[hannibal]

hey..urze...i see u are reeling in the customers....

 

urze mod is a good alternative, if you are not technically inclined, or do not want to waste weeks or months building a controller...

 

i spend 8 months building my setup...(collective, torque pedals, and long shaft cyclic)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2673/picture001xv3.jpg

 

and if you happened to have millions to spend..check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2vGwIpegbI

Edited October 1, 2008 by hannibal

[531-Ghost]

:)

 

 

I will not add a twist grip to it - 1.it would raise the costs dramatically - 2.nearly all modern Helicopters have an automated RPM governor and many of them even don't have a twist throttle at the collective stick nowadays (see the KA50 for instance).

 

Don't lump the AH1/UH1 Helicopters in that mix ;)

[urze]

Don't lump the AH1/UH1 Helicopters in that mix ;)

I was talking of modern and nowadays helicopters. -The AH-1 and UH-1 are birds of the 60ies. But AFAIK has the AH-1W "Super Cobra" all this features.

[-Skipper-]

I was talking of modern and nowadays helicopters. -The AH-1 and UH-1 are birds of the 60ies. But AFAIK has the AH-1W "Super Cobra" all this features.

 

I think so, too.

 

 

I'm pretty happy to see you offer the collective at a reasonable price at ebay. Most professional producers of input devices for simulations think there's only Millionairs playing theses sort of games... :mad:

 

Are we going to see a similar release for the stick-extensions, too? Right now, I only play fixed-wings-sims, so this stick-extensions would be more reasonable for my limited gaming-budget, right now. :(

 

 

PS: Nice Avatar. Watched Wall-E yesterday - definitely a movie watch together with your girlfriend :smilewink:

[urze]

I think so, too.

 

 

I'm pretty happy to see you offer the collective at a reasonable price at ebay. Most professional producers of input devices for simulations think there's only Millionairs playing theses sort of games... :mad:

 

Are we going to see a similar release for the stick-extensions, too? Right now, I only play fixed-wings-sims, so this stick-extensions would be more reasonable for my limited gaming-budget, right now. :(

 

 

PS: Nice Avatar. Watched Wall-E yesterday - definitely a movie watch together with your girlfriend :smilewink:

 

Thanks-

 

Yes - I'm working right now also on an extension for the HOTAS-Cougar.

Please watch my site for news - or drop me your e-mail over my guestbook and I will inform you about availability.

 

The Avatar: I used Doc Brown for a rather long time but my Girlfriend convinced me to use Wall-E after watching it together:).

[stswrebel]

Thanks-

 

Yes - I'm working right now also on an extension for the HOTAS-Cougar.

Please watch my site for news - or drop me your e-mail over my guestbook and I will inform you about availability.

:notworthy:

 

This is good hear, I have both the cougar and the x52, but I perfer the feel of the cougar. I have been thinking of doing and extention, I just havn't sat down and opened it up yet.:D:joystick:

[-Skipper-]

 

The Avatar: I used Doc Brown for a rather long time but my Girlfriend convinced me to use Wall-E after watching it together:).

 

:D

 

Thanks-

 

Yes - I'm working right now also on an extension for the HOTAS-Cougar.

Please watch my site for news - or drop me your e-mail over my guestbook and I will inform you about availability.

 

Cool! I visit your site on at least a weekly basis, looking for your nice videos and explanations or just to get some inspiration for modding or pit-building. :smilewink:

 

As stswrebel I have both, the Cougar and X52, but due to some broken potis I mixed my Cougar up with an old gameport Fighterstick fitted with X42 potis. An unholy breed, I know, but it works extremely precise, especially with my current stick-extension. :D

But as I just got a cheap replacement for original potis, I will probably revert them to their original configurations and then an extension for the Cougar would be really handy.

[531-Ghost]

I was talking of modern and nowadays helicopters. -The AH-1 and UH-1 are birds of the 60ies. But AFAIK has the AH-1W "Super Cobra" all this features.

 

Ummmmm no, the AH1W, UH1N, AH1Z, UH1Y all have twist grip throttles (2) one per engine.

[urze]

You are right- there are twist throttles on their collectives. But AFAIK are the newest upgraded versions equipped with a RPM governor.

So you touch the throttles normally only twice during a flight: When you start the engines and when you shut them down.

When the pilot use them under other conditions something bad happed.

 

This is also the one of the greatest reasons for helicopter crashes - faulty power management.(edit:That means that the pilot touched the throttles without a need)

So a RPM governor is todays standard when not at least a must for a save flying .

A RPM governor makes piloting a helicopter half that complicated.

Edited October 3, 2008 by urze

[urze]

If this all refer to my collective-mod and a lack of a twist throttle:

You can easily assign a axis of the analogue Hat-switch as throttle.(That means not as axis! Read it as something like: x-axis+ means power up- and x axis - means power down. All manageable through the Saitek SST programming software. Because if you would assign them as throttle axis 1:1 you have to hold the axis in this position all the time. When you release the chosen 'value' it also would go to nominal.)

Edited October 3, 2008 by urze

[strannick]

yes, you should invert the throttle to make it more realistic. a real collective starts at the floor, and you pull up to increase collective pitch. do you know how to invert the throttle on a x52 throttle?

[hannibal]

im throwing my two cents in....

[Triggerhappy69]

im throwing my two cents in....

 

 

 

TWO CENTS...?

 

That Setup is a LOT more than two cents if you ask me..:thumbup:

[LtFransky]

The use of the malleable steel pipe is a great idea

[IvanK]

Standard CH Pro throttle mounted with Velcro, Can easily be removed and placed on flat surface to use as a normal throttle.

 

[opformaster]

I like it Ivan! How do you keep the collective from moving so freely? Mine wont stay put in that position, it just slides back down to the down position. Is there a way to tighten up the slide of the pro throttle?

[IvanK]

It just seems to have enough friction to stay there most of the time. Nothing special added.

[opformaster]

I may have to crack my throttle open and see if there is anything I can tighten.

[emenance]

For the guys who still fly the jets I think thats the best example I have seen so far. BUT I still like URZE's collective and have a saitek throttle to dedicate to it. I would still like to see the finished thing and a bit or a write up from IVANK on how to use it that way, and maybe compare to the URZE collective????? Thank you!!

[hannibal]

finally got my torque pedals painted...hope to have my black shark simpit setup soon

 

 

Edited January 10, 2009 by hannibal