Florida Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 I've been waiting for several years to get enough money to finally get a Warthog HOTAS, mainly since I really like to fly the A-10C! I got a nice tax refund this year, so off I went to buy my dream. My first purchase, which was advertised on Amazon as "New" for $385 proved to be a used item that Amazon conveniently covered up at the bottom of their data page. I cancelled. The I went back to Amazon and found a truly "New" Warthog for $454! Okay, a bit more, but it IS new. Well, Amazon doesn't sell this - it's all resellers, so I order and get to the Checkout page. After adding $225 for shipping and $40 for tax, the price jumped to over $700. No joy! I started looking around the Web, and Warthog HOTAS is a very rare item. Hardly any retailers even sell them anymore, and if you DO find one for sale, it's going to be used, refurbished, or $800 to $1300. Which leads me to believe that Thrustmaster probably isn't even making them anymore. -= Gary =- a.k.a. Florida - Current DCS Beta, A-10C II Warthog, F/A-18C Hornet, F-16, F-14B Tomcat, P-51D, Spitfire, Track IR, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Logitech rudder pedals, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, CH Throttle Quadrant, Razer Orb Weaver, X-Box controller
randomTOTEN Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 Newegg no longer has a listing for the entire HOTAS, and using a link to the store item shows it "out of stock" and "not available" huh....
JUICE-AWG Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Lucky me, I found an unopened TM Warthog Box on Craigslist in my local area for $325. Sometimes DELL has them on sale for $350. Keep trying! Check here! - https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FeUAAOSwDb1dVG~N/s-l640.jpg Edited February 12, 2020 by =JUICE= "There are only two types of aircraft, Fighters and Targets." Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
reschke Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 These are the ones I found in about 5 minutes just quickly searching online. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/743173-REG/Thrustmaster_2960720_Hotas_Warthog_Flight_Stick.html/?msclkid=bb85b92fa6df1f991723e76c25b54f0c https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/a9168831 http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/11244 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog-Flight-Stick-Joystick-and-Throttle-Quadrant/274258802310 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thrustmaster-Warthog-HOTAS/402078604122 I've been waiting for several years to get enough money to finally get a Warthog HOTAS, mainly since I really like to fly the A-10C! I got a nice tax refund this year, so off I went to buy my dream. My first purchase, which was advertised on Amazon as "New" for $385 proved to be a used item that Amazon conveniently covered up at the bottom of their data page. I cancelled. The I went back to Amazon and found a truly "New" Warthog for $454! Okay, a bit more, but it IS new. Well, Amazon doesn't sell this - it's all resellers, so I order and get to the Checkout page. After adding $225 for shipping and $40 for tax, the price jumped to over $700. No joy! I started looking around the Web, and Warthog HOTAS is a very rare item. Hardly any retailers even sell them anymore, and if you DO find one for sale, it's going to be used, refurbished, or $800 to $1300. Which leads me to believe that Thrustmaster probably isn't even making them anymore. Warthog #1397...compliments of SimHQ
lxsapper Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 They are definitely selling them but even TM is out of stock right now. They appear to have Joystick and throttle separate in stock, but that option costs a bit more. And this page is for Europe, IDK the equivalent US page. https://shop.thrustmaster.com/en_gb/
Florida Posted February 12, 2020 Author Posted February 12, 2020 These are the ones I found in about 5 minutes just quickly searching online. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/743173-REG/Thrustmaster_2960720_Hotas_Warthog_Flight_Stick.html/?msclkid=bb85b92fa6df1f991723e76c25b54f0c https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/a9168831 http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/11244 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog-Flight-Stick-Joystick-and-Throttle-Quadrant/274258802310 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thrustmaster-Warthog-HOTAS/402078604122 The only affordable one,B&H, is out of stock, as is Dell. The e-Bay items are both used. IOW, there are NO NEW Warthogs available right now. I found one in Germany, and they couldn't take my credit cards. I guess getting one is not in the cards right now. A fistful of dollars, and no place to spend them. -= Gary =- a.k.a. Florida - Current DCS Beta, A-10C II Warthog, F/A-18C Hornet, F-16, F-14B Tomcat, P-51D, Spitfire, Track IR, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Logitech rudder pedals, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, CH Throttle Quadrant, Razer Orb Weaver, X-Box controller
zcaa0g Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) The link below should be straight from Amazon's warehouse and not a 3rd party seller. It's priced higher than normal at $580, but that's due to there only being 6 left in their current stock. I doubt they would be exiting after just releasing the F-18 grip just last year. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-PC-BL/dp/B004I5XB4K/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=Warthog+throttle&qid=1581524631&sr=8-11 As a test, I added the above to the card and it was... Order Summary Items: $579.95 Shipping & handling: $0.00 Total before tax: $579.95 Estimated tax to be collected: $47.85 Order total: $627.80 This is $382.46 and is supposedly new, looking at the page unless I am missing something, but won't ship same day/next day/ 2 days like the one above: https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2960720-Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog/dp/B00371R8P4/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=Warthog+throttle&qid=1581524865&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-7 Edited February 12, 2020 by zcaa0g
randomTOTEN Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 Like many specialty items (I'm thinking model trains), production is likely in "runs." And the inventory appears to have been depleted. I would expect a new production run will restock the various retailers shortly.
VpR81 Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 Holy shit, what kind of prices are that for the Warthog. I purchased the set in germany, brand new for 360€ with a 4 year warranty. Ok, it was out of stock and i had to wait 3 months for it to be available, but boy... 600 or even more for a Warthog HOTAS? That´s insane... Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
Florida Posted February 12, 2020 Author Posted February 12, 2020 The link below should be straight from Amazon's warehouse and not a 3rd party seller. It's priced higher than normal at $580, but that's due to there only being 6 left in their current stock. I doubt they would be exiting after just releasing the F-18 grip just last year. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-PC-BL/dp/B004I5XB4K/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=Warthog+throttle&qid=1581524631&sr=8-11 As a test, I added the above to the card and it was... Order Summary Items: $579.95 Shipping & handling: $0.00 Total before tax: $579.95 Estimated tax to be collected: $47.85 Order total: $627.80 This is $382.46 and is supposedly new, looking at the page unless I am missing something, but won't ship same day/next day/ 2 days like the one above: https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2960720-Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog/dp/B00371R8P4/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=Warthog+throttle&qid=1581524865&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-7 If you go down the page on this one, you'll find this: Important information Legal Disclaimer Selling HOTAS because I am moving. No returns. _________________________________________________________________ Anyone can be a reseller on Amazon. You just create an account. I do not want a used Warthog. The one on Amazon "certified" New is way out of my price range - just a little while back, these things were going for $450 everywhere. Now they're scarce, so the gouging comes out. See the one on Amazon for $454 + $225 for shipping? Get real! I'll just wait...maybe Thrustmaster will start a new production run soon and the price will level out again. :music_whistling: -= Gary =- a.k.a. Florida - Current DCS Beta, A-10C II Warthog, F/A-18C Hornet, F-16, F-14B Tomcat, P-51D, Spitfire, Track IR, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Logitech rudder pedals, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, CH Throttle Quadrant, Razer Orb Weaver, X-Box controller
Nightstalker Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 Did Thrustmaster not announce just recently a newly designed warthog base? This could be why there is limited supply of the originals.
VpR81 Posted February 13, 2020 Posted February 13, 2020 Did Thrustmaster not announce just recently a newly designed warthog base? This could be why there is limited supply of the originals. No, it´s exactly the same base. They just started to advertise it separately from the grip with a different name. This was related to the EA launch of the DCS F-16 module, wich is why they started to offer the Warthog grip separately from the base as "F-16 grip" at the same time. Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
imacken Posted February 13, 2020 Posted February 13, 2020 Available on the UK store at normal price of £369. http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_UK/products/hotas-warthog Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Florida Posted February 13, 2020 Author Posted February 13, 2020 Available on the UK store at normal price of £369. http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_UK/products/hotas-warthog Well, that's not too bad, about $480USD. With shipping across the pond, probably ~$500. Oh, not really! When I went to buy it, the price changed to L399, and...it's out of stock! -= Gary =- a.k.a. Florida - Current DCS Beta, A-10C II Warthog, F/A-18C Hornet, F-16, F-14B Tomcat, P-51D, Spitfire, Track IR, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Logitech rudder pedals, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, CH Throttle Quadrant, Razer Orb Weaver, X-Box controller
imacken Posted February 13, 2020 Posted February 13, 2020 Hmm, maybe the package has been discontinued. The Warthog/Viper and Hornet sticks, throttle and base are all available individually for purchase or preorder. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Notso Posted February 13, 2020 Posted February 13, 2020 The I went back to Amazon and found a truly "New" Warthog for $454! Okay, a bit more, but it IS new. Well, Amazon doesn't sell this - it's all resellers, so I order and get to the Checkout page. After adding $225 for shipping and $40 for tax, the price jumped to over $700. No joy! $225 for shipping?? Is Elon Musk sending a rocket to Mars to bring it back?? System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
reschke Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 The only affordable one,B&H, is out of stock, as is Dell. The e-Bay items are both used. IOW, there are NO NEW Warthogs available right now. I found one in Germany, and they couldn't take my credit cards. I guess getting one is not in the cards right now. A fistful of dollars, and no place to spend them. I used to sell things on Amazon but had them do the fulfillment side of it so I never actually touched the products once I ran out of the stock I had in my garage. So anyone and almost everyone is a "reseller" on Amazon....even Amazon themselves. As for buying a used one off Ebay. The last one I posted is still available and you can buy the SquareTrade protection as well. So you still have options with them. Also Dell is showing delivery of a new one by March 11th on my account when I put it in the checkout and proceed through to the end. Warthog #1397...compliments of SimHQ
reschke Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Looks like a brand new one just hit Mercari for sale. https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m72064803220/ Warthog #1397...compliments of SimHQ
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