Gryzor Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 Nobody noticed significant lower performance in latest 2.5.6.50321? For me, I get 20% less fps than before, with exact the same graphical settings.
Lanzfeld113 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) Stutters in VR Yayyyyy.... We have ground radar. Too bad we can’t use it because performance gets worse and worse. I think ED really needs to step back and figure out what the hell they think they’re trying to do. I have a high end system and an HP Reverb. The way the SC or even a collection of 2 or 3 Fx18’s and/or F-14’s brings on the hard stutters is really making me want to change to a different game. They need to fix this stuff and optimize this mess. This really is an optimization problem. Edited June 5, 2020 by Lanzfeld113
Charly314159 Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) +1 ED has totally lost control over their code because they are focused on releasing paid modules to keep money flowing. I am pretty sure that performance improvement they are promising are based on community mods being integrated in the game (central only msaa from be shader mod for example). For me since the introduction 2.5.6 DCS is looking worse than before in VR (0.9 pd no msaa, pd1.3 msaa*2 on 2.5.5) and has never ran so poorly. I am really worried about it's future... Edited June 5, 2020 by Charly314159
Charly314159 Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Maybe we could ask a refund for all the purchased modules that we cannot use/enjoy anymore? ;-)
Gryzor Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) @ED: Fix the damm sim for VR we´re now 5 months without solutions since 2.5.6 disaster (NEAR A HALF YEAR???)... not only in FPS, images not rendered in one EYE, this in pathetic. Stop launching unplayable modules and optimize & put vulkan on play you won´t see any $$$ until fixed. Edited June 5, 2020 by Gryzor
Motomouse Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 @ED: Thanks for the unique VR experience I enjoy every day. I am looking forward to the resolving of the rendering issues in the current OpenBeta. Please continue to launch further content so I can throw my money in your general direction ;-) VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS
Lanzfeld113 Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Yeah I was planning on getting the F-16, the F-14, and The Persian Gulf map. But with these latest steps backwards in my performance in VR I’m going to use that money elsewhere. They need to fix this stuff or DCS is essentially dead.
Doc3908 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 At this point I'm thinking about rolling back to 2.5.5 stable. That was fantastic. I'd really hate to lose Supercarrier, but I've just about had it with the 2.5.6 disaster.
speed-of-heat Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just to be clear, please fix the perf issues in VR, I really don’t care about anything else right at the moment. SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Charly314159 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just to be clear, please fix the perf issues in VR, I really don’t care about anything else right at the moment. +1
Gripen 4-1 Posted June 6, 2020 Author Posted June 6, 2020 Just to be clear, please fix the perf issues in VR, I really don’t care about anything else right at the moment. +1 SYS: II Asus X670E-F || Ryzen 9800X3D || Gainward RTX4090 || 2x48 GB Kingston Fury Renegade 6000Mhz || XPG Core Reactor 850 Watt PSU || Kingston Fury 2 TB NVME SSD || WD SN850 1TB NVME SSD || 1 x 500 GB Crucial MX300 SATA SSD || 2 x HDD 3TB || INPUT: II Thrustmaster F-16 & F-18 Stick on Virpil War BRD Bases || WinWing Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo || WinWing Orion2 F/A-18 Hornet Throttle Combo (With Finger Lift) || WinWing Takeoff Panel II MFG Crosswind Pedals w. Damper || 3 x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD || Multipurpose UFC || II Wheel Stand Pro II VR: HP Reverb G2
dax Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 Just to be clear, please fix the perf issues in VR, I really don’t care about anything else right at the moment.+1 !!!! Intel Core i7 6700K@4.7GHz, Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark1, 16Gb Kingston DDR4 2800MHz, Asus Geforce GTX1080, SSD Sandisk Extreme Pro 250Gb, Seagate 2Tb, TM Hotas Warthog, Ch Pro Pedals, TrackIr 4, Oculus Rift CV1 & Rift S
squirrelmeister Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) Thought I post it here too: For everyone having stutters like every two seconds - in my case it was HWINFO64 which caused the stutter/framedrop/frame loss on any settings! Closed it and the stutters went away - tested it again with starting it again while in flight, and stutters came back, turned it off and stutters went away again. Strangely it didn't even matter if I was monitoring anything or nothing at all. The reason why I had it every two seconds was because HWINFO64 logged/monitored everything every 2000ms. Hope this helps someone else too! Cheers Edited June 7, 2020 by squirrelmeister one more thing
Lanzfeld113 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 I checked in the task manager under PROCESSES, DETAILS, and SERVICES but that program is not running. I have windows 10. What are you running?
squirrelmeister Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 I checked in the task manager under PROCESSES, DETAILS, and SERVICES but that program is not running. I have windows 10. What are you running? Are you asking me? I am kind of getting confused from time to time :helpsmilie: Cheers
speed-of-heat Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 I checked in the task manager under PROCESSES, DETAILS, and SERVICES but that program is not running. I have windows 10. What are you running? https://www.hwinfo.com is the application that squirrelmeister was talking about... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Harker Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 I checked in the task manager under PROCESSES, DETAILS, and SERVICES but that program is not running. I have windows 10. What are you running? It's a hardware monitoring software, it's not on Windows by default, you need to install it. Anyway, it doesn't matter which software it is, the point is that if you use a monitoring software with a high polling rate, it might degrade your performance. For example, I set my polling rate to 5 sec for MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X1, to minimize this. Actually, I have HW monitoring disabled most of the time, since I know how my system performs and I'll just use it occasionally to check for changes, if any. Temperature and voltage protection is built in, so it'll kick in even if you don't run any monitoring software yourself. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro
squirrelmeister Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 It's a hardware monitoring software, it's not on Windows by default, you need to install it. Anyway, it doesn't matter which software it is, the point is that if you use a monitoring software with a high polling rate, it might degrade your performance. For example, I set my polling rate to 5 sec for MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X1, to minimize this. Actually, I have HW monitoring disabled most of the time, since I know how my system performs and I'll just use it occasionally to check for changes, if any. Temperature and voltage protection is built in, so it'll kick in even if you don't run any monitoring software yourself. Just to be clear: In my case it gave me frame drops even if monitoring was set to off but HWINFO64 was still running. It has to be closed completely to get rid of these stutters/drops in frames. What I tested a moment ago, since I had a possible workaround for this problem or so I thought at least, was to set the affinity to a single thread. But still got these drops. I should mention that I didn’t set the affinity for DCS accordingly - which is actually a little dumb from my side. Will test it with core 0-6 for DCS and number 7 (this is a virtual core so it shouldn’t matter for DCS) for HWINFO64. Will report back if it is a workaround! Cheers
squirrelmeister Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 So this didn't work unfortunately. No matter what affinity I am using, no matter the priority set for HWINFO64, it still gives me these drops from 90FPS down to 70 for a splitsecond every 2000ms. Very sadly I have to admit that the long beloved program HWINFO seems to have a very big problem that shouldn't exist. Why I am saying that? Well MSI Afterburner is also monitoring my GPU without any drops or something similar. So the problem lays on the side of HWINFO64. It could be a sensor problem but I won't bet on that. But what do I know?!? Cheers
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Performance in 2.5.6.50726 If anyone from ED is reading this: whatever you guys are doing to improve VR performance, is working! Based on what I've seen so far in 2.5.6.50726, my framerate is quite a bit smoother than in the previous builds (and they were in turn better than the ones before those). Keep it up! :thumbup: Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill RipjawsM5 DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
speed-of-heat Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 it is? I didnt see any improvement? SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
TOViper Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 If anyone from ED is reading this: whatever you guys are doing to improve VR performance, is working! Based on what I've seen so far in 2.5.6.50726, my framerate is quite a bit smoother than in the previous builds (and they were in turn better than the ones before those). Keep it up! :thumbup: Same for me. Never seen stable 90 fps before while flying in Nevada with shadows set to HIGH. I will now start figuring out how far I can go with pixel density, but I got used to use 1.0, so every increase is a bonus for me. Hopefully this will be the same when flying with friends on the same server. Loading time when starting up DCS is also reduced, which is now very nice again. Keep it up ED, at least for my computer this update makes a difference! Im slowly getting happy again. :thumbup: Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G 4.4 GHz | NVIDIA RTX 3080 10GB | 32 GB 3.2 GHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TRP | Rift CV1
Likkah Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 this is a desaster.... i thought iam the only one with much big problems... good to read that im not alone.... i went from 45 fps to 30 fps with the same settings.... that suxx rly rly hard... i hope they noticed that huge problem here and can fix it....
speed-of-heat Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 i didnt get that either, just exactly the same SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
squirrelmeister Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Same for me. Never seen stable 90 fps before while flying in Nevada with shadows set to HIGH. I will now start figuring out how far I can go with pixel density, but I got used to use 1.0, so every increase is a bonus for me. Hopefully this will be the same when flying with friends on the same server. Loading time when starting up DCS is also reduced, which is now very nice again. Keep it up ED, at least for my computer this update makes a difference! Im slowly getting happy again. :thumbup: I would love to know your settings!
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