New stick travel animation

[captain_dalan]

Question about the new update, it says:

"

Improvements to pilot stick travel animation"

 

Does this mean the stick has been moved back in the default-idle state too?

[fat creason]

The main fix involved the pitch trim having an exaggerated contribution to the animation in certain areas of the trim travel. The stick's "zero" or neutral position is still the same.

[captain_dalan]

Ah, good to know! Thanks for the info mate :)

[Uxi]

Is there a reason the default stick position hasn't been changed yet?

[Airhunter]

Yes, because it is accurate.

[draconus]

Yes, because it is accurate.

 

I have heard otherwise from both devs and SME.

[captain_dalan]

I have heard otherwise from both devs and SME.

Indeed, me too. I just can't find the relevant thread right now :book:

[Golo]

Yes, because it is accurate.

 

 

Its not accurate, it was shown that the stick is partly clipping through HSI in its forward most position.

 

 

So fixing trim issue is great, but please fix the sticks neutral position and travel range too so we can actually see the HSI display.

[Uxi]

Unfortunately it isn't completely correct, indeed it is a bit forward too much. It is on our list, just lower priority.

 

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4188441&postcount=11

[Cobra847]

Neutral position is correct. Has been verified.

[Airhunter]

Neutral position is correct. Has been verified.

 

Exactly, talking the neutal position here. I wasnt aware of it clipping through the HSD in the full forward position.

[some1]

The stick animation is definitely NOT correct, and I doubt that the neutral position is realistic.

 

Look at the amount of travel this guy can achieve when pulling a stick. In DCS there's no way you can pull the stick so far as to see the gauges below HSI. That's as far as it goes on the screenshot below:

 

 

 

 

Compare how far from the dashboard is the stick during approach in real life to what we have in similar conditions in DCS:

 

[Cobra847]

We'll take another look and let you know.

[draconus]

Thx, please do, as current implementation suggests most awkwardly placed MFD in aviation ;)

[Uxi]

Wow, seemed as if pretty set against though appreciate the willingness to consider, thank you Mr. Dackard!

[RustBelt]

Why does the center console of that fighter fling video still look completely diffrent? Is that an F14D? because it doesn't look like it has a lower screen at all.

[punk]

We'll take another look and let you know.

Seems to be a disconnect between the development team as Ironmike addressed this earlier as a known, low priority, future to-do-list project. See post before yours for link.

 

:punk:

[some1]

Why does the center console of that fighter fling video still look completely diffrent? Is that an F14D? because it doesn't look like it has a lower screen at all.

 

It's a D. The screen is gone, but the console is still in the same place:

 

Anyway, another way to look at it is that the NATOPS says that the stick has 4 inches forward travel and 5,5 inches aft from neutral. Don't know where those inches are measured exactly, most likely where the pilot rests his hand. But I superimposed the neutral, full aft and full forward position on one screenshot and the result doesn't seem to hold that 4 / 5.5 ratio of travel, at least on DCS camera. The guys at Heatblur can measure the model precisely in 3dsMax.