shaHeen-1 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Lol might be my shitty logitech stick but I had to put curves of 40 to finally hit the basket intentionally XD. Key tip: height of probe is same as top of hud. Align it with basket when close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 If you suck at AAR, you're doing it right. Just suck it all in and you're good to go! :smilewink: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protea1 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 so do i.....<and thats NOT funny > what should the curves be on the thrustmaster warthog throttle be for the BEST/Optimal results? please pm me ..thanks in advance cheers! AMD FX-8350 PALLIT GeForce GTX 1080 [ NVIDIA] CRUCIAL MX500 1TB SDD DELL P4317Q 43" TRACK IR Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Viacom VoiceAttack [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascan39 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I do not use any curves, I hooked up first try - (after using the quick fix for comms, etc) bounced around a bit, came unhooked several times. I may have benefited from practicing the last few weeks with all the other jets that are capable of AAR. The F-16 gets me frustrated, can not stay on the boom long enough sometimes to take fuel. I think after "mucho practico" it becomes easier. I take what seems like forever to creep up on the tanker, and have gotten better with my control inputs. Good luck, it is good fun for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 I must have crossed caucasus coast 3 times entirely by now at 226kts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxTrotAlpha691 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I must have crossed caucasus coast 3 times entirely by now at 226kts. Which tanker does the JF-17 use for AAR, Russian tanker or NATO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 The F-16 gets me frustrated, can not stay on the boom long enough sometimes to take fuel. Is the additional grip modeled in the boom refueling? As once boom operator makes the contact with you, you can almost take hands off as you are now part of the tanker and you fly as one with it. It is often said that it is easiest way of refueling as your stick movements doesn't affect so much. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxwxl Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Set some curve and set the tanker at M0.7 should be better. Deka Ironwork Tester Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 Which tanker does the JF-17 use for AAR, Russian tanker or NATO? Im not entirely certain but since China had Jeff so I just put down a tanker and changed its faction to China. So pretty much any tanker you can put down with China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Lol might be my shitty logitech stick but I had to put curves of 40 to finally hit the basket intentionally XD. Key tip: height of probe is same as top of hud. Align it with basket when close.You only need more times and practices. Just get the feeling of it. Trust me you'll get there eventually. I once was like you, AAR felt so frustating but not anymore. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VFA-106] Glacier Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Once you get lined up, engage Attitude Hold, which will significantly dampen stick response. Just make sure you don't move outside of the hold parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Set some curve and set the tanker at M0.7 should be better. Thanks for the tip, will try it :thumbup: For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoot Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I find that AG1 or AG2 helps a fair bit as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 How so? Does it damped control? Didn't notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VFA-106] Glacier Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I find that AG1 or AG2 helps a fair bit as well I don't understand what you mean. AG1 and AG2 just limit the maximum Gs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 And how you get there, it needs to reduce overshoot as well, or atleast I assume.. I will try it clean though and see what difference it makes, but the dampened roll is a huge help Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 I dont use any of those tricks. I dont even use curve whatsoever, its all pure stock setting. As I said, it can be done with more practices. Using autopilot or whatever probably only making a bad habit. Practice makes perfect. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 And an expensive hotas with 0 jitters. That helps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 And an expensive hotas with 0 jitters. That helps too.104th Maverick uses the same Logitech joystick as you do. Look at his all refueling video tutorials on Youtube. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartori86 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Ok, so I tried to refuel with IL-78 and no problem. I tried with US counterparts and no joy, even tough there is a film on youtube where guy shows how to do AAR in JF-17 using KC-130. Is there something I need to configure in editor to be able to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 I did it with all planes as China faction. If that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Hello, Air-Air Refueling was always a task that I had avoided on DCS, but now that I'm trying to edit a Training mission for AAR on the Jeff, I find that I suck at it too :cry: I increased my Stick curves (previously I had it with no curves), and have tried half a dozen times without managing to plug the probe not even once :doh: .. I wonder how other people (like 104 Maverick) make it seem easy ... it is not. Well, will keep practicing, but I'm taking a break now because my arm hurts (my TM Cougar has fairly stiff springs, it is a real workout flying in formation). I'd love to hear from you guys, some more tips for learning this skill :thumbup: Thanks, Eduardo For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 My JF17 curves are only 5 for both pitch and roll. For AAR, do your best to relax your grip. I consciously tell myself to relax my grip when AAR in any aircraft and flying helicopters. This technique usually helps with more precise, smaller movements. YouTube | Kick | Twitch | My Gaming Rig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 Jeff is harder to refuel than any plane maverick flies. Hitting the basket is actually a lot more about fine throttle control than the joystick. And Jeff has a slow spooling engine so it requires even smoother throttle control otherwise it will easily over speed or lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) It took me a while to figure out you need to push the basket in a bit to make some slack Edited April 5, 2020 by AeriaGloria Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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