Another broken BETA update.

[Maverick_NL]

Oh you have VR in MS2020 preAlpha and you can shoot things in MS2020 and the planes have detailed radar and weapons simulations, complete with mission editor and scripting possibilities ready? Boy now I am looking forward to this combat simulator by MS. ;-)

 

 

It doesn't matter what sim it is or if it uses VR or not.

its all about the playability of the Sim DCS.

[Maverick_NL]

Well you can't shoot things in DCS while in F18 either mate.

 

 

Haha yes indeed!

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

Granted there is a thing called stable and a thing called open beta. There is also a difference between a feature bug, and a playability problem.

The issue in my mind is they keep adding “features” and their associated bugs to OB. A feature problem but I can always “go to Stable” right?

No, because they just exported the “playability” bugs to stable. Yes they fixed a bunch of “feature” bugs but they introduced the FPS issues to stable.

Now we have a choice of servers with players, wonky features and playability issues of OB or play by yourself, with fewer features that are less buggy at crap frame rates..

Not sure thats a win for anyone really...

[falconzx]

My Man!!!!

10+ years patience??

Things should go better, not worse.

 

What you miss here is a simple reality:

 

The code of DCS is an old mess, to improve something, you have to break something.

 

 

You and more complaining guys have just to understand this simple thing.

[Skyron]

What you miss here is a simple reality:

 

The code of DCS is an old mess, to improve something, you have to break something.

 

 

You and more complaining guys have just to understand this simple thing.

 

 

 

Why do they ask me to pay 80dollar per module for -as you say - something old mess?

If you break something, OK - NO PROBLEM, really, but TEST IT MATE BEFORE RELEASE IT.

 

Really, i was wondering, no one from ED tried to fire an Amraam with an F18 before pressing the Deploy button? Its a 10 seconds try mate...

 

Give me the module free for DCS Beta to test it for you, and if i want to play it in stable, i will pay it.

Edited June 11, 2020 by Skyron

[rayrayblues]

The devs can't do it all, otherwise like "wholehawg" said, we would have to wait for years.

Beta testing is standard procedure with these types of games. (War Thunder, WOW, WOT, etc.

The devs get it working as well as they can and then let the players find the rest of the bugs.

It's annoying for sure, but this way we have thousands of people refining the game and

it goes much quicker. All new modules are open beta first. If you want to play P-47 or SC

you have to have OB. Sorry dude. that's just the way it is.

[schmiefel]

Did I miss something and F/A-18 is still out of early access aka alpha/beta development status?

 

All those that reclaim having spent hundreds of dollars in DCS stuff and could not use it to their expected level should maybe rethink their "investments" or learn understanding whats written in EDs shop with every such module before buying it.

 

Or: You can already buy a Superbug for another flight simulator ... Maybe that delivers better what you are looking for?

[Skyron]

Guyz sorry but I feel you don't understand what I write, -or my English is so bad.

 

What I would like to be clear is, even in Early Access or BETA client, you cant publish a module without testing least the planes major functionalities, and im not talking about little buggy things.

 

Maybe you missed about after 2 years development F18 radar was completely broken and the plane was totaly unplayable.

 

Why are you talking about beta client stuff and early access every time, these are for law departments, don't start again, we are talking about ED reliability and way things work in there.

 

In the market, beta clients are to test new things, not to test old things again and again.

i dont it get how do you support such un-professionalism, im a DCS Fan too, but not like that.

Edited June 16, 2020 by Skyron

[Skyron]

Did I miss something and F/A-18 is still out of early access aka alpha/beta development status?

 

All those that reclaim having spent hundreds of dollars in DCS stuff and could not use it to their expected level should maybe rethink their "investments" or learn understanding whats written in EDs shop with every such module before buying it.

 

Or: You can already buy a Superbug for another flight simulator ... Maybe that delivers better what you are looking for?

 

Well, I will think about my future investments, and ill won't make the same mistake again providing 80$ for BETA modules, always believing in this "2 weeks more" joke.

Edited June 16, 2020 by Skyron

[Skyron]

If you want to play P-47 or SC

you have to have OB. Sorry dude. that's just the way it is.

 

i totally understand that P47 and SC, and F16, are brand new features, but my friend, im not talking about that, i talk about 2-year working radar, being screwed up in a patch.

 

The fact that the devs cannot do it all ,is not my problem.

[BIGNEWY]

Hi

 

Understand you are frustrated, and we should be doing better. We are moving to monthly updates now to allow more time for testing, and to give more time for bug fixes.

 

With that said, early access modules take a lot of time, years to complete, they are complex, for everyone who participates we appreciate it, the support and bug reports help us to improve.

 

Open beta, it is a public test build and will remain so, occasionally things will break badly, we use this build to stop major problems reaching the stable build, our hope is with a longer test period this will reduce.

 

Thanks for your feedback

[Skyron]

Hi

 

Understand you are frustrated, and we should be doing better. We are moving to monthly updates now to allow more time for testing, and to give more time for bug fixes.

 

With that said, early access modules take a lot of time, years to complete, they are complex, for everyone who participates we appreciate it, the support and bug reports help us to improve.

 

Open beta, it is a public test build and will remain so, occasionally things will break badly, we use this build to stop major problems reaching the stable build, our hope is with a longer test period this will reduce.

 

Thanks for your feedback

 

Hallo BIGNEWY and thanks for the reply.

Moving to monthly updates, is sadly the right thing for things to go on better.

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

Hi

 

Understand you are frustrated, and we should be doing better. We are moving to monthly updates now to allow more time for testing, and to give more time for bug fixes.

 

With that said, early access modules take a lot of time, years to complete, they are complex, for everyone who participates we appreciate it, the support and bug reports help us to improve.

 

Open beta, it is a public test build and will remain so, occasionally things will break badly, we use this build to stop major problems reaching the stable build, our hope is with a longer test period this will reduce.

 

Thanks for your feedback

 

I get that but since it has been reported ad nauseam that the beta version was killing VR systems, why did you just drop it on stable? Now neither currently works smoothly....

[Taz1004]

Hi

 

Understand you are frustrated, and we should be doing better. We are moving to monthly updates now to allow more time for testing, and to give more time for bug fixes.

 

With that said, early access modules take a lot of time, years to complete, they are complex, for everyone who participates we appreciate it, the support and bug reports help us to improve.

 

Open beta, it is a public test build and will remain so, occasionally things will break badly, we use this build to stop major problems reaching the stable build, our hope is with a longer test period this will reduce.

 

Thanks for your feedback

 

Good move indeed. This will also give Mod makers more time to adjust to new version. They were pressured to update twice a week.

 

But there still should be possibility of hotfixes. In case there's big game breaking bug even with a month of closed testing. Otherwise, the OB community will be stuck with it for a month.

[Archer_111]

I really hope there still should be possibility of hotfixes +1, namely the readability of DDIs and AMPCD for the least.