ADMIRAL189'S CORNER - INCOMING SHIP MODELS

[Silver_Dragon]

On 7/5/2024 at 2:57 PM, Admiral189 said:

BTW what is your source of information? Thanks.

Has a wargame series with put very acurate info called "Admiratly Trilogy System", with your modern era (Harpoon V 1955-present date). Your data annexs has updated and your weapon and systems has not bad.

18 minutes ago, Admiral189 said:

Good Morning Everyone. 

I created a spur-of-the-moment 3d model of the Ticonderoga Class Cruiser. I will share it with you all in the next couple of days. Also, I will release the Italian mods soon as well. I will not wait for an ED's update.  It's like Murphy's Law. What can go wrong, will go wrong.  Stay Tuned.

That has the previous version about our actual Bunker Hill class, missing Bunker Hill (CMP) from 2015.

Ticonderoga (ii) CG
Displacement: 7219 lt In Class: [5]
Size Class: B/Medium In Service: 1983 - 05
Propulsion: COGAG/CPP Crew: 395
Electrn Cnt: 3rd Gen J&D Acoustic Cnt: 2nd Gen T
Signature: Med/Quiet Armor Rating: 0

Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 5 Automatic
F(2)2 Mk26 Mod 1 w/20 SM2MR & 20 ASROC,
A(2)2 Mk26 Mod 1 w/44 SM2MR//PW/SW/2A 4 SPG-62 D, E
F/A(1)2 Mk45 5in/54//SPY-1 and SPQ-9 (2.0) C
P/S(R)2 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 0 (6.3A) C
P/S(1)2 Mk38 Bushmaster 25mm C
P/S(1)4 M2 .50 cal (0.1L) C
PB/SB(3)2 Mk32 324mm TT w/3 Mk46 Mod 5 F
Aft Pad(1)2 SH-60B LAMPS III B
PS/SS(4)2 Mk141 w/4 Harpoon IB D

Sensors: ES: 3rd Gen
SPY-1A, SPS-49(V)6, SPQ-9A, SPS-55, SPS-64 J
SQS-53A K

Remarks:
Ticonderoga, Yorktown, Vincennes, Valley Forge, Thomas S. Gates. Fitted with RAST. Magazines hold 36 torpedoes for helos and 324mm TT. CG 47 and CG 48 have SPS-53 vice SPS-64, SM2MR Blk I, SH-2F vice SH-60B and not fitted with RAST. Initially limited to SPQ-9A directing Mk45 guns against surface targets only. CHP armor rating for Sensors, Mk26, Mk45 is 2. Aluminum superstructure, -15% damage modifier.
• Systems: SM2MR Blk I 1983, SM2MR Blk II 1984, Harpoon IC 1985, SM2MR Blk III 1990; Phalanx Blk IA 1992 (2@9.5A); P/S(1)2 Mk38 Bushmaster 25mm in the early 90s.
• 1983: Ships deploying to Med and Persian Gulf typically carry Stinger msls - estimated as P/S(1)2 Stinger.
• 1985: Fitted with Link 4/4A, Link 11, Link 16, and ARQ-44 Hawklink ARQ-44.
• 1991: SPY-1 upgraded to direct Mk45 gun against air targets.
• 1994?: ASROC retired - Forward Mk26 carries 44 SM2MR.
• 1996: Fitted with increased automation (crew of 309). Yorktown (1996), Ticonderoga (2000).
• 2005: Planned refits canceled - would have received SQS-53D, Gen 6 Automatic combat system.

Damage & Speed Breakdown:
Dam Pts: 0 76 152 228 274 294
Surf Speed: 30 22 15 8 0 Sinks

Edited July 9, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[Admiral189]

Thanks, Silver Dragon. I was just discussing the Harpoon Missiles and or RGM-84s. We normally use EDs Harpoon (RGM-84) missiles but they need more attention as they are not very accurate. The Surface to Air missiles we create are pretty accurate and they pick the harpoons off like Flies. 

As mentioned I mainly use Wikipedia and Seaforces as my reference material.  https://www.seaforces.org/.

For missile speed in milliseconds, I use  https://www.metric-conversions.org/speed/mach-to-meters-per-second.htm

I forgot one Mod. A birdy brought up the Canadian Frigate mod. So it will done this week as well. It will be a remake of the HMCS Montreal. This will be HMCS Charlottetown FFH-339.

The Italian Frigate Andrea Doria and French Frigate Forbin are up next but they will take time. At least a couple of weeks to complete.

 

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[Silver_Dragon]

45 minutes ago, Admiral189 said:

Thanks, Silver Dragon. I was just discussing the Harpoon Missiles and or RGM-84s. We normally use EDs Harpoon (RGM-84) missiles but they need more attention as they are not very accurate. The Surface to Air missiles we create are pretty accurate and they pick the harpoons off like Flies. 

As mentioned I mainly use Wikipedia and Seaforces as my reference material.  https://www.seaforces.org/.

For missile speed in milliseconds, I use  https://www.metric-conversions.org/speed/mach-to-meters-per-second.htm

The actual data about the Harpoons on HV has there (data has abstracted, but can be useful):

Annex D1 - Surface Missiles:
Country / Name / Guidance/Gen / Air Range (nmi) / ATA Rating / Surface Range (nmi) / Pen Damage (cm) / Envelope/Flight Path / Speed (kts) / Signature / IOC / Remarks
USA / RGM/UGM-84A Harpoon / I/TARH/2 / 3 / - / 60 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VLow Cr. / 561 / VSm / 1977 - 85 / J
USA / RGM/UGM-84C Harpoon IB / I/TARH/2 / 3 / - / 60 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VLow Cr. / 561 / VSm / 1982 / K
USA  / RGM/UGM-84D Harpoon IC / I/TARH/3 / 3 / - / 80 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VLow Cr. / 561 / VSm / 1985 / L, W3
USA / RGM-84F Harpoon ID / I/TARH/3 / 3 / - / 130 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VLow Cr. / 561 / Sthy / -- / D, M, W3
USA / RGM-84E Harpoon IE SLAM / I/Sat/Cmd/3 / 3 / - / 60 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VLow Cr. / 561 / VSm / 1984
USA / RGM/UGM-84M Harpoon III / I&Sat/M/TARH/3 / 3 / - / 80 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VLow Cr. / 561 / Sthy / 2010 / P
USA / RGM-84N / Harpoon ER / I/M/TARH/4? / ? / - / 167 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VLow Cr. / 561 / VSm / -- / -

Cursive: No enter on service

Remarks Key:
D : Canceled 1991. 
J: Terminal popup.
K: No terminal popup.
L: Selectable popup.
M: Reattack capability.
P: Modified Harpoon IC with VLS capability, data link, Use Link 16 for mid-course guidance. Canceled Apr 09.
W#: Number of waypoints the missile may use.

Annex H2 - Guided Air Ordnance
Country / Name / Guiadance/Gen / Range (nmi) / Speed (kts) / Flight Path / Hang Wt (kg) / Pen Damage (cm)1 / Signature / IOC / Remarks
USA / AGM-84A Harpoon IA / I/TARH/2 / 3 - 60 / 561 / VLow Cr. / 526 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VSm / 1979 / B, C
USA / AGM-84C Harpoon IB / I/TARH/3 / 3 - 60 / 561 / VLow Cr. / 526 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VSm / 1982 / No popup
USA / AGM-84D Harpoon IC / I/TARH/3 / 3 - 80 / 561 / VLow Cr. / 526 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VSm / 1985 / D, 3W
USA / AGM-84E SLAM / I&Sat/M/TEO/2 / 3 - 55 / 560 / VLow Cr. / 630 / 40+D6/2 / 9 /VSm / 1989-2009? / E, F, G
USA / AGM-84H, K SLAM ER / I&Sat/M/TEO/3 / 3 - 150 / 560 / VLow Cr. / 710 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / Stlhy / 2000 / E, F, H, 7W
USA / AGM-84N Harpoon II+ / I//M/TARH/3 / 3 - 80 / 561 / VLow Cr. 526 / 40+D6/2 / 9 / VSm / 2019? / D, 3W, S

Notes:
1: The armor penetration of short-range unpowered weapons (“Glide” flight path) depends on their release altitude. The three values are for Low/Medium/High altitude..

Remarks Key:
B: Terminal popup.
C : IOC 1981 on A-6E. 
D : Selectable popup.
E: Requires AAW-13 data link pod.
F: Operator-guided for the last 60 seconds.
G: Option of pure GPS from 1999
H: Can be retargeted in flight.
S: Uses Link 16 for midcourse updates
#W: Number of waypoints.

45 minutes ago, Admiral189 said:

I forgot one Mod. A birdy brought up the Canadian Frigate mod. So it will done this week as well. It will be a remake of the HMCS Montreal. This will be HMCS Charlottetown FFH-339.

My data about Halifax class:

Halifax FELEX FF
Displacement: 4305 std In Class: 12
Size Class: C/Small In Service: 2012 (1992)
Propulsion: CODOG/CPP Crew: 224
Electrn Cnt: 4th Gen J&D Acoust Cnt: 2nd Gen T
Signature: Small/Quiet Armor Rating: 0

Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 6 Automatic
F(1)1 Bofors Mk3 57mm70//F CEROS 200 (2.4) C/Sweden
A(R)1 Mk15 Phalanx Blk IB (9.5A) C/USA
2P/2S/PA/SA(1)6 M2 .50 cal. (0.1L) C/USA
PS/SS(4)2 Mk141 w/4 Harpoon Blk II D/USA
F&A(8)2 Mk48 VLS w/8 RIM-162 ESSM Blk I//2 F/A CEROS 200 D/USA
P/S(2)2 Mk32 TT w/2 Mk46 Mod 5A(SW) F/USA
Aft Pad (1)1 CH-124 Sea King or 1 CH-148 Cyclone B

Sensors: ES: 4th Gen
SMART-S Mk2 J/Nethl
Sea Giraffe 150HC (Upgrade) J/Sweden
2 Raytheon Pathfinder Mk2 J/USA
SQR-501 CANTASS, SQS-505(V)6 K
Link 11, Link 16 L/USA
SIRIUS IRST (3rd Gen) --/Nethl
SEOSS FLIR (EO, 4th Gen, laser rf) --

Remarks:
‘City’ class. Configuration as of Modernization/Frigate Life Extension Program. 24 total torpedoes carried. Has the Bear Trap helicopter haul down system. ESSM not quad packed. Has bubbler noise reduction. Ceros 200 has RA and EO/IR FC for 57mm. Fitted with MASS decoy against radar, EO, IRH and laser guided weapons. 3P ammunition used by 57mm. Probably fitted with UYS-504 acoustic processor. Halifax Sep 10 - Sep 11, Calgary Jun 11 - Jun 12, Fredericton Oct 11 - Oct 12, Winnipeg Apr 12 - Apr 13, Montreal Jul 12 - Jul 13, Charlottetown Apr 13 - Apr 14, Vancouver May 13 - May 14, St John’s Mid 2014 - Oct 15, Ottawa Spring 2014 - 15, Ville de Quebec Oct 14 - Sep 16, Regina May 15 - Apr 16, Toronto Summer 2015 - Nov 16.
• 2015: Winnipeg/338 fitted with two FDS3 floating distraction decoys for trials.
• 2016: EO to be added CEROS 200 FC 2016 - 2017.
• Jul 18: First CH-148 deployment on Ville de Quebec/332. Last CH-124 deployment returns.
• May 19: Mk54 torpedoes ordered. Possibly in service 2024 or 2025.
• 2019: Fredericton/337 and Winnipeg/338 fitted with PW/SW/PA/SA(1)4 Mini-Typhoon 12.7mm//4 EO GFC replacing M2 .50 cal. Remainder fitted 2021 - 23. 
• 2020: Calgary, Ottawa, Regina, Vancouver, Winnipeg Pacific-based, remainder Atlantic.
• 2021: Toronto/333 fitted with CU-176 UAV replacing eight torpedo reloads. All fitted by 2027.
• 2022 - 26: Sea Giraffe AMB replaces Sea Giraffe 150HC.
• 2022 - 28: Fitted with est. Sea Lancer replacing SQR-501, SQS-510 upgraded to -510UWSU standard, improved sonobuoy processing, TORSIC AIR (4th Gen AIR). First fit Ville De Quenec.
• 2025: To be fitted with Link 22 replacing Link 11 by this date.

Damage & Speed Breakdown:
Dam Pts: 0 57 113 170 203 226
Surf Speed: 29 22 15 7 0 Sinks

Halifax FF
Displacement: 4305 std In Class: 12
Size Class: C/Small In Service: 1992
Propulsion: CODOG/CPP Crew: 224
Electrn Cnt: 3rd Gen J&D Acoust Cnt: 2nd Gen T
Signature: Small/Quiet Armor Rating: 0

Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 5 Automatic
F(1)1 Bofors Mk2 57mm70//STIR 1.8 (1.2) C/Sweden
A(R)1 Mk15 Phalanx Blk IA (9.5A) C/USA
2P/2S/PA/SA(1)6 M2 .50 cal. (0.1L) C/USA
PS/SS(4)2 Mk141 w/4 Harpoon IC D/USA
F&A(8)2 Mk48 VLS w/8 RIM-7M//2 F/A STIR 1.8 D/USA
P/S(2)2 Mk32 TT w/2 Mk46 Mod 5 F/USA
Aft Pad (1)1 CH-124 Sea King B

Sensors: ES: 3rd Gen
SPS-49(V)5 J/USA
Sea Giraffe 150HC J/Sweden
2 Sperry Mk340 (FFH 330-334, 336) J
2 Type 1007 (FFH 335, 337-341) J/UK
SQR-501 CANTASS, SQS-505(V)6 K
Link 11 L/USA

Remarks:
City class. 330, 332, 333, 336, 337, 339, 340 at Halifax, Atlantic. 331, 334, 335, 338, 341 at Esquimalt, Pacific. 24 total torps carried. Has Bear Trap helicopter haul down system, UYS-503 acoustic receiver, bubbler noise reduction. Fitted with UYS-503(V) sonobuoy receiver (31 channels). Fitted with “austere” SWG-1 fire control for Harpoon. Cannot use waypoint targeting for Harpoon. Typically carry 180 crew and 4 Harpoon missiles in peacetime. Winnipeg/338 fitted with SRD-504 (SRS-1 Combat DF).
• 1996?: Fitted with Mk46 Mod 5A(SW) torpedoes.
• 26 Jun 96: St. John's/340 commissions with SQR-501 sonar. Earlier units backfitted.
• 1998 - 99: SQS-505 updated to SQS-510.
• Late 02 - Late 05: Phalanx IB (9.5A) fitted.
• 2003: Fitted with Wescam EO (3rd Gen FLIR, laser rf).
• 2004 - 11: RIM-7M replaced by ESSM Bilk I. St. John's/340 first fit, test fired Nov 2004; last Regina/334.
• Aug 08 - Aug 11: Fitted with SIRIUS 3rd Gen IRST.
• 2012 - 13: CU-165 Scan Eagle deployments with three UAV - Charlottetown 2012 (Mediterranean and Persian Gulf), Toronto 2013-14 (Persian Gulf), Regina 2014 (Persian Gulf).
• 2010 - 16: Frigate Life Extension Refits (FELEX), listed separately.

Damage & Speed Breakdown:
Dam Pts: 0 57 113 170 203 226
Surf Speed: 29 22 15 7 0 Sinks

By now, missing Italian and French ships data (I waiting the release of NATO Navies suplement)

Edited July 9, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[Citizen]

4 hours ago, Admiral189 said:

Good Morning Everyone. 

I created a spur-of-the-moment 3d model of the Ticonderoga Class Cruiser. I will share it with you all in the next couple of days. Also, I will release the Italian mods soon as well. I will not wait for an ED's update.  It's like Murphy's Law. What can go wrong, will go wrong.  Stay Tuned.

A dual-arm Tico!  Looks amazing.

[bbtbmb]

Sweet! love that version of Tico's, they carried us through the 80s!!

[McFly29]

On 7/5/2024 at 2:57 PM, Admiral189 said:

Hey Tromp, The SA-N-11 missiles have been corrected already on Project 965. They don't dance anymore. If ED updates any parts of their weapon files. It will affect all the missile files we declared. So we either have to find the weapons file they updated or in this case fix it ourselves. CH was able to determine which line items were changed.  BTW Tromp did you know there's a Dutch ship named Tromp.  

Thanks, Silver Dragon. Very useful information. The most we can do with submarines is update the Harpoon and Tomahawk specs. At the moment we can't configure the Torpedoes at all. I tried declaring a different Torpedo using existing code but it doesn't work. Also, at the moment no matter how I configure the submarines they always launch the default YU-6 torpedoes. So the Submarine configurations is always a Work In Progress. Thanks again for the information. BTW what is your source of information? Thanks.

 

Hi Admiral, hope you’re keeping well. It seems like you’ve got your shipyard cranking up to full capacity and I’m excited to see what’s coming!

Given your reply here, is it also the case that the Type 23 and the Normandie have also had their SAMs updated/fixed and so can be re-downloaded?

[ivan-ivanov-1902]

Someone has a CLSID from Basalt P-500, which GT.WS - which one is in the ship, eh?

[Admiral189]

Hello Ivan, can you send me a PM of exactly what you're asking? Thanks.

ED just released the Afghan and Flaming Cliffs Trailer so I think the Update will be released soon. What caught my eye was the new Insurgent Character below. So they may release the new soldiers they've been working on as well.  

I will be creating some Armored Assets for the Afghan Map. I have a very good inventory of Armored vehicles and Tanks. Stay tuned for that. 

At the moment I'm prepping the Submarines pack for release.  

Late note: The update has been released!!

 

Edited July 11, 2024 by Admiral189

[tripod3]

28 minutes ago, Admiral189 said:

At the moment I'm prepping the Submarines pack for release.  

Wow! Sounds good.

Edited July 11, 2024 by tripod3

[Oban]

Massive update too..

 

[flyingscotsman]

Hi Admiral, 

                        Just want to congratulate your 20/20 vision, spotting insurgents, within tree cover.....I only spot them as I, Eject from my burning aircraft, or on one of the rotations, which rapidly increase after getting my tail rotor shot off, by the 20/20 vision, deadhot insurgent...hidden in the trees, LOL.

[Admiral189]

Hahahaha. Thanks. FlyingScotsman. My eyes are pretty bad but I have 32-inch monitors so it makes everything much more clearer.

I guess they may release the new soldiers with the CH-47. 

Yeah, that update ate lots of space on my Hard drive. It's definitely made for Fighter Jets, helicopters, and Armored vessels.

[ivan-ivanov-1902]

13 часов назад, Admiral189 сказал:

Hello Ivan, can you send me a PM of exactly what you're asking? Thanks.

ED just released the Afghan and Flaming Cliffs Trailer so I think the Update will be released soon. What caught my eye was the new Insurgent Character below. So they may release the new soldiers they've been working on as well.  

I will be creating some Armored Assets for the Afghan Map. I have a very good inventory of Armored vehicles and Tanks. Stay tuned for that. 

At the moment I'm prepping the Submarines pack for release.  

Late note: The update has been released!!

 

 

I once tried to send you a file, the site wrote that you can't accept messages-?

[Penguin625]

do we know if the missile code has been fixed so it doesn't make the missiles go absolute stupid ?? 

[Admiral189]

Hello Ivan, yes it told me I had too many messages. I'm in the process of deleting them so you should be able to send me a message soon. I will send you a message and you can just reply back.

Hello Penquin625. So far so good with a couple of mods but I only tested a couple of them. So I will work on finishing up the mods and releasing them in no particular order.

Today I was testing the submarines before release and I noticed Ed's new submarines and I noticed they release steam. That's a new feature and would be great for the ships but I can't find the code for them.  Even underwater they release steam which is not good because you can clearly see them. 

Stay Tuned. Thanks for your patience.

[Admiral189]

I guess I spoke too soon. We have steam/smoke. It needs to be thinner so I will try tweaking it.

[Ironghost]

2 ore fa, Admiral189 ha scritto:

Immagino di aver parlato troppo presto. Abbiamo vapore/fumo. Deve essere più sottile quindi proverò a modificarlo.

The smoke should be thicker from missiles being launched from ships, but now the vapor is white? Wasn't he black before?

[Penguin625]

@Ironghost yes, some ships did have black smoke 

[Marroux]

The steam that has appeared on ships is normal; it is the consequence of the widespread use of hydrogen engines to reduce CO2 emissions.

[Tromp]

Hello Admiral! Today I updated DCS to version 2.9.6. Unfortunately, the SA-N-11 minullssiles in Project 965 are dancing.

[Admiral189]

Hey Tromp, I haven't released the update for the Project 965.  Here's the updated SA-N-7A Missile file. Please replace the existing file with the attached file. You can post the test results here if you like. The missile works fine for me. Thanks. 

https://ln5.sync.com/dl/6a6711fd0/wmxteey9-6r2pdh9s-akkftm56-us55cfh5

Yep, it used to be black smoke. There is a way to change the color of the smoke but you have to dig into the files to find it.  Most of the current world warships don't release smoke from the exhaust or stacks as we call them. It's more like the heat coming from a Jet Engine because many of the ships have Gas Turbine engines. I would rather it look like Jet Engine exhaust without the fire than smoke.  Smoke is more for the older ships.

 

 

[SilentGun]

Hey Admiral, i just found this thread with all of your amazing mods! i am curious if any progress was made on the San Antonio LPD and the USS America since your updates in May?

Edited July 15, 2024 by SilentGun

[RWC]

Hi Admiral Sir,

I hope with the release of the submarines, the USS Los Angeles 688i (updated) is included. I'm having frame rate issues when this submarine comes in to view. I have of course run some tests, but when she is within an 8-mile radius, the frame rate drops immensely and gets almost locked/ frozen.

My question is therefor if maybe the textures are outdated with all the new updates?

Also reporting that the USS Bowen is now showing as a submarine type, even though it is listed as frigate (GT.attribute = {wsType_Navy,wsType_Ship,wsType_ArmedShip,wsType_GenericLightArmoredShip, "Frigate", ) inside the lua file.

Kind regards,

RWC.nullnullnullnull

Edited July 15, 2024 by RWC

[Tromp]

Hello Admiral! The SA-N-7A rockets are working well! Thank you very much! Yes, I know that in the Dutch navy there were many ships with the name "Tromp"..

[Admiral189]

Hey SilentGun, I'm slowly working on both the USS America and San Antonio. I was working on the America yesterday trying to get the weapon sounds to work.  Trust me, both are on my shortlist to repair. 

Hey RWC, I don't think the textures will cause FPS issues unless it's a really large file. The Submarine files are fairly small.  I will be releasing the submarine pack today. I updated the Encyclopedia file yesterday for all of them. - Also, ensure your graphics are set to run on performance and as well as your PC Power.  Hopefully, the files don't cause you any FPS issues.

Great, Glad to hear it worked for you, Tromp. Thanks for the feedback.