[REPORTED]Strange Graphical Glitch

[Flappie]

Hi YoYo. Do you have a track showing this? I'll try to reproduce it.

[YoYo]

2 hours ago, Flappie said:

Hi YoYo. Do you have a track showing this? I'll try to reproduce it.

Try my mission, post above. If you will not see this I'll do a track for you, cheers!

Edited January 5, 2021 by YoYo

[MarvK]

20 hours ago, Flappie said:

Guys! At last! I can see them too!

 

EDIT2: I'm now pretty sure this is linked to the AAA 8,8cm Flak 37 unit. Over Normandy, it seems I cannot reproduce the issue when no Flak 37 is present.

 

Congratulations!  Welcome to the club. 
 

I have suspected it was the flak early on.  If you’re able to isolate it, maybe this bug will finally be squashed.

[Flappie]

6 hours ago, YoYo said:

Try my mission, post above. If you will not see this I'll do a track for you, cheers!

I didn't see the glitch although I tried to fight this A-20, but I'm very bad at dogfighting anyway. Please, attach a track!

 

1 hour ago, MarvK said:

I have suspected it was the flak early on.  If you’re able to isolate it, maybe this bug will finally be squashed.

Yes, I saw this but all this time I didn't have access to WWII modules. The free-to-play event ends tomorrow. I won't be able to help you guys anymore because I will return to the exciting  world of jets, missiles and ejection seats!

[YoYo]

Here is the track (FW190A8), flashes start at the middle and escalate at the end .

 

tempMission.miz.trk

 

 

3 hours ago, MarvK said:

Congratulations!  Welcome to the club. 
 

I have suspected it was the flak early on.  If you’re able to isolate it, maybe this bug will finally be squashed.

 

I dont think so, I havent any FLAK on the ground and see this. Its an issue of new or old demage model WW2 I think. I saw it on the empty Normandy map plus my own plane and 1-2 AI even. No any ground vehicles.

Edited January 5, 2021 by YoYo

[Flappie]

I agree with MarvK: the Flak 37 seems to be one responsible for the orange glitches. But maybe the new damage model is also reponsible. I was about to test your track, Yoyo, but unfortunately the freeplay period is over. I leave you to it, guys. One thing you could test is having an immortal plane flying over a Flak 37 units field and see if you keep having these glitches.

 

Seeing as ED could reproduce the issue, this will get fixed in a few weeks hopefully.

Edited January 5, 2021 by Flappie

[Art-J]

Had it on Caucasus map with nothing but my Bf-109, shooting a few times in the air, into the ground or water. Might be particle effects related then, although it started happening out of nowhere long AFTER shooting.

 

 

[YoYo]

12 hours ago, Flappie said:

Seeing as ED could reproduce the issue, this will get fixed in a few weeks hopefully.

 

I hope so :).

[lipas70]

Given the rate at which ED makes corrections, in my opinion, no chance.

[YoYo]

Horror Movie DCS OB 2.5.6. BUG for 2021 ATTACK of Flashes - Graphical Glitch WW2 :

 

 

Btw. just two planes on this map, no any AA or vehicles. Normandy map. It is related to the demage model according me. In free flight (without enemy or shooting) I didnt notice this glich and flashes.

 

Its visible on VR and 2D on different systems and GPU, evidently a bug in DCS.

Edited January 6, 2021 by YoYo

[Flappie]

Thank you. I assume it's the large smoke trail following the A-20 which is responsible for your orange glitches.

Now, try to fly over a Flak 37 units field with an immortal plane (which means damage model won't intervene). I'm pretty sure you will get orange glitches too.

[YoYo]

2 minutes ago, Flappie said:

Thank you. I assume it's the large smoke trail following the A-20 which is responsible for your orange glitches.

Now, try to fly over a Flak 37 units field with an immortal plane (which means damage model won't intervene). I'm pretty sure you will get orange glitches too.

 

I could be (so effect of explosions or smoke maybe), I'll try it too.

[YoYo]

Ok, tested again and I see this when Im immortal or mortal (with FLAK) too. So perhaps it isnt Damage model.

 

ImmortalFW190A8.trk MortalFW190A8.trk

 

... BUT when I took Channel map and did the same mission with FLAK or Boston - I didnt see this issue, so maybe its a NORMANDY MAP issue (and Ugra Media?). Many users use Normandy for WW2 battles (and most only) so here is maybe a problem that many started to think its a WW2 issue (damage or something else) but its a glitch only on this map when you start to firing (or AI) after summer'20 update?

Edited January 6, 2021 by YoYo

[Rainer_B.]

I'm using the Channel Map. Instant Mission Bf109 Bomber Intercept. Flashes at the start of the intercept. Tried the same mission with a F-18 instead of the 109. Same glitch.

 

Rainer

[YoYo]

1 hour ago, Rainer_B. said:

I'm using the Channel Map. Instant Mission Bf109 Bomber Intercept. Flashes at the start of the intercept. Tried the same mission with a F-18 instead of the 109. Same glitch.

 

Rainer

 

Thx will try.

 

Edit. I checked this mission on Channel map - but I didnt notice and problems, when I took any Instant mission with Normandy map I saw it again.

Edited January 6, 2021 by YoYo

[MarvK]

I installed the Channel map during the play for free this past time around.  Saw it on that map too.  It’s definitely in the WWII assets pack, or new damage model somewhere.

 

Fact is, I liked the Channel map.  I get the same performance as the Syria map.  I was planning on getting it this holiday sale.  But, not until this gets fixed.

[YoYo]

Yes I can confirm, I saw it Today on Channel map also finally - in mission with FW190A8 - Escort (default single mission). Few Ju-88, some of Spits, FLAKs, ships and 2xFW190. So yes it could be an effect (smoke, explosion ect).

Edited January 6, 2021 by YoYo

[YoYo]

Btw. I noticed few times this flashes on Normandy map without any fight and bullet. Weather or rendering issue?

[burncpt]

On 1/6/2021 at 11:50 AM, YoYo said:

Horror Movie DCS OB 2.5.6. BUG for 2021 ATTACK of Flashes - Graphical Glitch WW2 :

 

 

Btw. just two planes on this map, no any AA or vehicles. Normandy map. It is related to the demage model according me. In free flight (without enemy or shooting) I didnt notice this glich and flashes.

 

Its visible on VR and 2D on different systems and GPU, evidently a bug in DCS.

 

I watched this and at first I didn't even notice the flashes, I've got so familiar with them

 

Seems to be bad on Normandy map after a bit of a firefight, but honestly it's pretty bad generally. At least I can pretend it's an excuse for my terrible shooting and generally flying like a drunk bumblebee.

 

I'm assuming by now we're saying this is a DCS bug not system specific? Mine is distinctly low-rent anyway: i5-6500, 16GB, GTX 1660, SATA Evo 860Pro/850 Pro M.2 if that's any help.

[rhinofilms]

I'm seeing the same color flashes on Normandy.  It's quite a shock when it happens.

 

[JG13Wulf]

Hi,

 

We noticed the following about this bug:

For a long period of time I didn't have a lot this bug. I worked hard on one particular big map for a multiplayer campaign. And this map does not have clouds (or almost none).

Flying on this map, if I got the bug, it's about 1 or 2 on 1 month. I can't even remember having it.

 

But yesterday, I fly on another mission made by another pilot that use lot of clouds. And the bug appear again and again during the flight.
 

After discussing it, we notice the difference between the map (both on Channel) : One have clouds and the other does not have clouds.
We suspect that like for DM, something from new clouds system might have slipped into the public version that might cause conflict.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10klpe852g1DHKAVwFde3kFDPBBcb8zIM/view?usp=sharing

(Track of yesterday, can't upload it directly on forum)

[lipas70]

I checked on the same mission (Normandy Spitfire Dogfight) one with clouds, the other without clouds. 
On both, there are flashes, each time at a different time and with varying intensity.

[jspec3]

Tried with the latest (461.09) nvidia drivers in case anyone was curious, flashing still there.

Instant action 'dogfight' mission over Normandy.

 

Getting a little frustrating as it's been almost 6 months, hopefully someone from ED can pop in and give a word once a month or something (even if the word is 'we know it's there we're trying to fix it, sorry it's taking so long).

 

I got super into a spitfire campaign and have shelved it since the summer waiting for a fix.

[YoYo]

2 hours ago, jspec3 said:

Tried with the latest (461.09) nvidia drivers in case anyone was curious, flashing still there.

Instant action 'dogfight' mission over Normandy.

 

Getting a little frustrating as it's been almost 6 months, hopefully someone from ED can pop in and give a word once a month or something (even if the word is 'we know it's there we're trying to fix it, sorry it's taking so long).

 

I got super into a spitfire campaign and have shelved it since the summer waiting for a fix.

Yes, its not driver, I installed it too and flashes attact is still there.

[Flappie]

2 hours ago, jspec3 said:

Getting a little frustrating as it's been almost 6 months, hopefully someone from ED can pop in and give a word once a month or something (even if the word is 'we know it's there we're trying to fix it, sorry it's taking so long).

I don't think changing drivers will make the glitch disappear, because this issue appears with both AMD and NVIDIA GPUs.

ED devs were on holidays. Most of them will be back tomorrow.