Optimizing Cockpit Framerates?

[Nealius]

I've noticed the Tomcat is still a resource hog in VR. On the deck of the Supercarrier I'm getting 37fps in the cockpit, usually about 44 outside. The Hornet in the same mission and settings is pretty much locked at 45. This is with an overlocked chip at 4.7Ghz, RTX2070, and all the known VR tweaks/shaders mods. Still pretty low framerates.

 

I've tried every DCS setting and even fiddled with turning the HUD/VDI off and on, as those have caused framerate issues in the past, but no matter what I do the Tomcat is just stuck at 37fps on the deck.

 

I know performance issues have been discussed before, but has anyone figured it out?

[bart86pl]

Just stopping by to tell you that in non VR open beta (latest) is the same FPS issue - yes I tried everything, running on SSD as well. Every other module is fine on pretty much high settings. No matter what I change the FPS (gpu spikes) in F14 inside are horrific.

From 60 fps to complete stop for a sec and back to 60.

Lowering pit textures via mod not helping at this point, tried every other trick including messing with pagefile - no difference. Again, every other module works absolutely fine.

 

 

Operating System

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

CPU

Intel Core i7 3930K @ 3.20GHz 48 °C

Sandy Bridge-E 32nm Technology

RAM

32,0GB DDR3 @ 799MHz (10-10-10-27)

Motherboard

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P9X79 PRO (LGA2011) 33 °C

Graphics

2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (Gigabyte) 52 °C

 

I forgot to add, that from what I`m experiencing, and from what I read on other topics on the F14 performance, it must be something under the hood causing this, as its not the visuals. For example, same high settings, same dense scenery and planes like resources hungry MiG-21 loads fast and runs smoothly 40-50fps. F-14 is simply unplayable in the same environment.

Edited September 5, 2020 by bart86pl

[Jackjack171]

I am having the same issue. I do notice, whenever the F-14 is in close proximity to another jet as in, dogfighting; I have a slide show!

[The_Tau]

Yeah, F14 and Syria really lags for me to a point its a chore to fly it there

[bart86pl]

After latest update situation is still the same, all other aircrafts smooth 30-60 depending on conditions, F-14, lag spikes 60 to 5fps non stop.

I have a sad feeling this is something that few ppl is affected by and we are fubar with our F14s.

[bart86pl]

I found the culprit for the massive GPU lag in F-14.

If you experiencing lag spikes on your gpu, turn on your task manager and observe the GPU usage when:

 

Radar On - for me GPU usage jumps from zero to 99% and back

 

Radar Off - stable 99 GPU usage, no FPS drops.

 

Please, please look in to it Heatblur. Your great product is unusable for me since months.

Only when going silent with radar its a smooth ride.

[eatthis]

I found the culprit for the massive GPU lag in F-14.

If you experiencing lag spikes on your gpu, turn on your task manager and observe the GPU usage when:

 

Radar On - for me GPU usage jumps from zero to 99% and back

 

Radar Off - stable 99 GPU usage, no FPS drops.

 

Please, please look in to it Heatblur. Your great product is unusable for me since months.

Only when going silent with radar its a smooth ride.

 

isnt radar a cpu task not gpu?

have you watched the temps when it stutters?

[Uxi]

Interesting observation. I've noticed about 5 to 10GB more RAM usage in the Tomcat vs the Hornet. I was mostly thinking textures etc more than systems usage.

[bart86pl]

isnt radar a cpu task not gpu?

have you watched the temps when it stutters?

 

Temps are ok, my CPU is not affected by this at all, spikes are only on GPU card.

From what I just been told in my bug report, my VRAM in GPU might be too low to handle the processes needed for F-14 pit.

Edited September 24, 2020 by bart86pl

[eatthis]

Temps are ok, my CPU is not affected by this at all, spikes are only on GPU card.

From what I just been told in my bug report, my VRAM in GPU might be too low to handle the processes needed for F-14 pit.

 

what gpu do you have?

[Spurts]

from another thread... "Runningthe Tomcat graphically is like running two highly detailed cockpits at the sametime " - fat creason

[bart86pl]

what gpu do you have?

 

Its Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

My full specs are in the post above.

 

 

from another thread... "Runningthe Tomcat graphically is like running two highly detailed cockpits at the sametime " - fat creason

 

Ye, looks like its time to upgrade. :pilotfly:

[fat creason]

Its Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

My full specs are in the post above.

 

 

 

 

Ye, looks like its time to upgrade. :pilotfly:

 

Upgrade your CPU and RAM (and therefore probably motherboard) if anything. Keep the 1060 unless you want to fly in VR.

[Uxi]

from another thread... "Runningthe Tomcat graphically is like running two highly detailed cockpits at the sametime " - fat creason

 

Only in one at a time though. The other one shouldn't be using resources... at least not graphical ones. Might human RIO then show performance improvement?

[IronMike]

Only in one at a time though. The other one shouldn't be using resources... at least not graphical ones. Might human RIO then show performance improvement?

 

 

 

 

Graphically parts of the RIO pit are always just not there for the pilot, to say it simply, but the other way round ofc both pits must be there fully. However despite the RIO pit partially not being rendered for the pilot, the systems etc are still all running and also taking a toll. Multicrew, Jester, etc... it just needs to manage much more than single seat aircraft.

[LanceCriminal86]

I'm running a 6700k/32gb/970GTX and was looking at upgrade options to get better usable performance. I know to see any CPU improvement I have to go new motherboard and start over since DCS is super CPU bound. Would trying to pick up a 2070 Super be worth it with an OCd 6700k? I pretty much exclusively fly the Tomcat and don't see that changing until the Corsair, Crusader, Corsair II, or A-6 happen.

[IronMike]

Yes it would. I run a 4770k and upgraded my 970 to a 1080ti. And I gotta say, the 1080ti still pulls most of the games, although of course sims do reveal the CPU bottleneck. But you will see an improvement nonetheless, and all other non sim games will run almost flawlessly. So a 2070 Super will very likely show improvement for you.

[LanceCriminal86]

Yes it would. I run a 4770k and upgraded my 970 to a 1080ti. And I gotta say, the 1080ti still pulls most of the games, although of course sims do reveal the CPU bottleneck. But you will see an improvement nonetheless, and all other non sim games will run almost flawlessly. So a 2070 Super will very likely show improvement for you.

 

Thanks Mike, I'll keep an eye out. Hoping we can get this renovation finished so my fun money can be a thing again. I gave the phone head tracking app a try the other week and for 10 bucks it definitely does the job, however I still feel like ultimately VR is the way to go for Flight and Racing sims. It'd be great if DCS can get some of the optimizations it needs and better multicore support but at least for now a good GPU upgrade I think would give me some better 2D framerates to enjoy the Cat. That, and a floor mounted Virpil stick with their 200mm curved extension, I think the longer sticks are an important part of being able to fly smoothly with more finesse that the Tomcat needs. And of course rudder pedals.

 

I have a ton of school to focus on before 31 October so here's to hoping the "A" model will be the victory prize at the end to enjoy!

[eatthis]

Yes it would. I run a 4770k and upgraded my 970 to a 1080ti. And I gotta say, the 1080ti still pulls most of the games, although of course sims do reveal the CPU bottleneck. But you will see an improvement nonetheless, and all other non sim games will run almost flawlessly. So a 2070 Super will very likely show improvement for you.

 

we just need a 55ghz cpu thats all

[fat creason]

I run an OCed 6700k @ 4.8 GHz and a Strix 1080 with 32GB of 3200MHz RAM. It works okay in VR (Rift S), but probably going to do a full rebuild soon with a 3080 or whatever AMD comes out with.

[eatthis]

I run an OCed 6700k @ 4.8 GHz and a Strix 1080 with 32GB of 3200MHz RAM. It works okay in VR (Rift S), but probably going to do a full rebuild soon with a 3080 or whatever AMD comes out with.

 

7700 at 5ghz here with a2080ti, i fiddled with settings yesterday and got it prettier but still 40 ish fps on the ground. we need an order of magnitude more power/better engine