Noob question

[Taz1004]

 

2 hours ago, silverdevil said:

is it prudent to add this line in the autoexec.cfg in C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Config as the following? instead of modifying the graphics.lua directly?

 

options.graphics.statsColor = {250,250,250}
no_device_hotplug = true
metaShaderCacheEnabled = false

 

Yes, that should work too in theory.

The bug still didn't return for me.  It does get little bit too white (or dark) at one point after explosion.  But it's not completely white and increasing Gain helps.  And then once DCS is restarted, issue is completely gone again.  Much better than deleting fxo and metashaders2.  And there's no change to loading time.

Edited December 31, 2020 by Taz1004

[Caldera]

OK Thanks Taz,

 

This bug or whatever it is gets annoying.  I have managed to forget to delete the fxo file contents.   If I miss one play session then it comes back.   I have always said "What makes you strong makes you weak".  The precision weapons are terrible with out the TGP.

 

I got notepad++ today I will give the lua file edit a shot.

 

SilverDevil,

 

Have you tried both methods?

 

This evening my weapons and my guns just decided not to release / not to fire.  I tested my HOTAS with the control panel and the DCS control binding utility.  Both worked there, but not in the game.  I checked and re-checked my control line-up in cockpit.  This was the third flight in a 3 sortie mission I had going (hot reloads).  Everything worked fine in the first two sorties and I made no changes between flights.  I have no clue what is up with that. 

 

Caldera

[Caldera]

I did as you suggested Taz, no issues yet. 

 

There are still files being written to the FXO folder.  I just checked it and it was pretty full.  Is that normal to happen?

 

I went ahead and deleted them anyways. 

 

Caldera

[Taz1004]

27 minutes ago, Caldera said:

I did as you suggested Taz, no issues yet. 

 

There are still files being written to the FXO folder.  I just checked it and it was pretty full.  Is that normal to happen?

 

I went ahead and deleted them anyways. 

 

Caldera

 

Just leave it.  Deleting them will only increase loading times I think.

[silverdevil]

@Caldera sorry for delay in responding. i am going to give it a go if i can today. i am trying the autoexec method first. my reasoning is when you make a change to core ED files they will be replaced each time there is an update. autoexec is a user file and does not. i will keep you posted.

[silverdevil]

got to test @Caldera. i have NVIDIA cache on and the addition to my autoexec.

 

 

i got a good kill on an AA truck. no problem seeing the target after kill

 

[Caldera]

The work around that Taz suggested is and isn't working.  With that statement, I mean that I still have to delete the contents of the FXO file folder after or during every play session or I get the total white out or black out effects on the TGP.

 

That is a bit discouraging.  I think I will try SilverD's work around next and see if that does the trick.  I just wished I understood a bit better what is actually going on with it.

 

Caldera

[Taz1004]

27 minutes ago, Caldera said:

The work around that Taz suggested is and isn't working.  With that statement, I mean that I still have to delete the contents of the FXO file folder after or during every play session or I get the total white out or black out effects on the TGP.

 

That is a bit discouraging.  I think I will try SilverD's work around next and see if that does the trick.  I just wished I understood a bit better what is actually going on with it.

 

Caldera

 

What SilverD is suggesting is same thing.  Just different way to implement it.  When it happens, simply restart.  Don't delete fxo anymore.

[silverdevil]

my results before change was always backed out with smoke and now each time i do not have the issue. also i do not remove folders. the autoexec.cfg goes in the following folder:

 

C:\Users\%uesrname%\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta (or DCS)\Config

[Caldera]

OK,

 

I have not tried the autoexec work around yet, as I am too busy studying the manual.  Like I a needed a higher grade in school...

 

I happened to see this:

 

There actually is one person who came up with a script for automatically deleting the files.  I read through most of it.  At some point, I was comforted  to know that it is not just a few people who are effected and getting annoyed.  Although the problem I get, at least the one I notice which is the total black out or white out on the TGP display, was not really discussed.

 

I bought some more stuff from DCS World because it was on sale.  I bought that stuff instead of a bigger hammer to hit myself in the head with.  One of the things I bought was the F/A-18C module.  When first I went into the CONTROLS page I kind of went "Ah Sh** WTF" (ASWTF).  What I noticed is that under the first drop down menu where the planes are listed I don't have a F/A-18C Real listed there. Looking a little more it now is a bit confusing. 

 

Trigger --> Check to see if I am an idiot by looking to see what I have in the drop down list after making a purchase

A-10C II Game

A-10C II Real

P-51D Easy

P-51D Real

F/A-18C Game

F/a-18C Sim

Conditions --> Assumptions correct

1) Game  <-->   Easy

2) Real    <-->   Sim

Actions --> Delete the fxo file contents again for ASWTF de-coding

                      --> re-coding    <Line 62>   { [ call LOOP ] flag,1,6 == null, next, top }

                      --> search for result  

                      --> Message to all "Oh Sh** Oh Sh** Oh Sh**"

 

There are other selections in the drop down list.  But the ones above are the ones I am most concerned about.  No help that I could find in the GUI manual.  It only mentions Game or Sim.

 

Please help me with the following choices:

 

a)  Game modes labeled badly?                                                                                               

b) Some how wasted my money on the wrong product and / or got screwed?

c) Go back to just the P-51D

d) Try not to annoy people who have cared enough to read all the way to here

 

Caldera

[Taz1004]

As I said before, it is known issue for a while.  Keep deleting fxo and metashader2 isn't a good solution because the game has to recompile the shader cache each time.  And that takes long time.  Making it delete each launch is not a good idea.  I'm not willing to live through the long wait time each launch.

Based on my testing so far, what is likely happening is that there are two shader cache being generated.  One by Nvidia and one by DCS.  And they're accumulating/conflicting on each other.  I noticed the issue got better when I disabled Nvidia cache but it still came back.  And then I tried disabling DCS cache and it does come back but doesn't go completely white or black.  Just really bright and goes away if I move the TGP.  And simply restarting DCS (NOT deleting fxo) brings it back to normal without long loading time.

 

Changing it in graphics.lua or autoexec.cfg is two different way of achieving same thing.  It's same fix.  It's just the autoexec.cfg will not be overwritten during updates.

 

As for your second question, I'm not sure what you're asking.  Your assumptions are correct.  But what's ASWTF de-coding?  Wasted money on what?  FA-18?

Edited January 5, 2021 by Taz1004

[SmirkingGerbil]

All, maybe this is known, and I am in way over my head here.

First thanks for all this information, very helpful.

I have found though, that by selecting either BHOT or WHOT, and then adjusting Gain, or the Levels (found on MFD left hand side of TGP display), you can alternatively worsen or remove the effect of total occlusion.

Meaning I jack with the levels until I can get a clear image through smoke.

Guessing you guys have already tried this, therefore ignore. If not, give it a whirl. I know it means dinking around with knobs and dials, but it gives me consistent repeatable results, meaning I can eventually get a clear picture through a destroyed target and not have the sensor blinded by the IR intensity of burning wreckage/smoke.

 

[Caldera]

Taz,

Thank you!

As for the "But what's ASWTF de-coding?", sometimes I get off the road a bit just trying to be funny.  I have been studying the Mission Editor.

 

Gerbil,

My TGP goes from basically what you describe to all out black or all out white.  I can mess around with it and get it to work some what.  Usually, by the time I get done fiddling with it so that I can lock on to something I am typically out of the weapon release window or I have to go around and start from farther away or I have to use PAUSE which I am trying not to do.  That all annoys me a little.

 

Caldera

[Caldera]

Silver;

 

23 hours ago, silverdevil said:

my results before change was always backed out with smoke and now each time i do not have the issue. also i do not remove folders. the autoexec.cfg goes in the following folder:

 

C:\Users\%uesrname%\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta (or DCS)\Config

 

This file does not exist on my PC.  Do you suppose that might be a problem?

 

Caldera

[Caldera]

How can be the time to take a break from this game already.   I may just lose my mind....

 

Sorry to be a bother, I have no where else to turn for advice right now.  I know that it may seem very simple to those with more experience.

 

I have the Combined Arms module.  I have two missions created for testing as I have been messing around with the Mission Editor.   One mission I have an A-10C ii programed, some triggers, some targets, some engagements and a HMMVY all programed and it works mostly.  One mission I have only a HMMVY and that is it.  Basically, I wanted to use the HMMVY as an method of checking out things that I have built in my mission.  I figured that I could just hop in it drive around and see how things looked.

 

In the mission where the HMMVY is the only vehicle I can jump right into it by using RALT J.   In the mission where the HMMVY is not the only vehicle I can't.    In both cases I have the  PLAYER CAN DRIVE checked in the Mission Editor. 

 

From the controls page I see JUMP INTO SELECTED AIRCRAFT - RALT J.  So in the mission where I have more stuff programed I try to do just that.

 

I go to the F-10 map view.  I make my index finger fatigued scrolling out then in, I locate the HMMVY and I click on it.  It turns yellow on the map.  Next I press RALT J and I get the message Unable to enter vehicle: vehicle control is not possible.   I have tried pressing RALT J 10 to 20 times in a row, still the same result.  I have tried pressing RALT J until the whole right side of the F10 map screen is full of Unable to enter vehicle: vehicle control is not possible, still the same result. 

 

Any clue what I am doing wrong?

 

Caldera

Edited January 5, 2021 by Caldera

[Taz1004]

4 hours ago, Caldera said:

Gerbil,

My TGP goes from basically what you describe to all out black or all out white.  I can mess around with it and get it to work some what.  Usually, by the time I get done fiddling with it so that I can lock on to something I am typically out of the weapon release window or I have to go around and start from farther away or I have to use PAUSE which I am trying not to do.  That all annoys me a little.

 

Sounds like you need to practice circling around your target with your TGP on it.  Put your target around 2 o'clock if your TGP is on right side.  With less than 50% throttle, bank slightly left so you fly away from target while keeping TGP pointed at it.  Turn on bank hold autopilot.  Put your head down and look for targets and use markpoints.  If the target gets around to your 5 o'clock, turn back, put it to 2 o'clock again and repeat.  Find all targets before turning in to engage.

 

If you're higher altitude, you can just circle over the target area.

 

Yes, if you don't have autoexec.cfg, you should create it with notepad++  Attached is mine as example.

 

Your last question, you'd have better luck asking it in CA section.

autoexec.cfg

Edited January 5, 2021 by Taz1004

[DutchCoolHand]

Hi Tazz,

 

looking at your config file, I saw this line options.graphics.stereo_mode_use_shared_parser = true . What does it do again? I have it in mine and if I remember correctly it had something to do with VR right?

 

I am also trying to solve the TGP white out issue. I did figure out to switch to dark hot allowed me to see the vehicles under the smoke again

[Taz1004]

Yes it's frustrum culling for VR.

 

 

[SmirkingGerbil]

8 hours ago, Caldera said:

Taz,

Thank you!

As for the "But what's ASWTF de-coding?", sometimes I get off the road a bit just trying to be funny.  I have been studying the Mission Editor.

 

Gerbil,

My TGP goes from basically what you describe to all out black or all out white.  I can mess around with it and get it to work some what.  Usually, by the time I get done fiddling with it so that I can lock on to something I am typically out of the weapon release window or I have to go around and start from farther away or I have to use PAUSE which I am trying not to do.  That all annoys me a little.

 

Caldera

Caldera,

Not sure how many hours you have in the A-10. I understand the drive to "fly like it is real" and it is frustrating to do immersion breaking things, but considering your post with ME and player controlled vehicles, I would cut yourself some slack here and do active pause.

I only mention this, as I routinely fiddle with the gain etc. when needed and still manage to keep targets in my view, and locked, but I have a lot of time in the A-10 since about 2011/12 ish, also in the KA-50 from that time frame, so this kind of interaction and speed takes time to become second nature. Plus I have have the TM HOTAS, and it is second nature to put the A-10 in a large circular orbit with my TGP facing the bad guys. Plenty of time to fuss, fiddle, and still shack them.

If you know all this, ignore, if any of it helps, then use it.

4 hours ago, Taz1004 said:

 

Sounds like you need to practice circling around your target with your TGP on it. 

 

Lol, I just saw your post, and I mentioned the same thing to him.

 

Great minds . . .

Yeah, going into orbit around a target to fuss and fiddle before run in is second nature now.

[Caldera]

Thanks,

 

I have like 40 to 50 hours flight time in the A-10C ii.  Probably 20-30 hours using TGP at some point in the mission.

 

Here is the thing.  If I delete the contents of the fxo file folder before the play session.  No issues.  None.  Nada.  Noxnee.  Works perfectly good all times, all altitudes, all attitudes, if I have no gymbal faults and the TGP is not masked.  I don't even think about it. 

 

If I forget and I select for example BHot, then as soon as I start to zoom in it may just go completely black.  No fading to black, just black.  From there, I can further zoom in and I might find a phase where it works again.  If I zoom in or out of that phase it will black out again.   Nothing, just pure black.   At those times I did try messing with the contrast.  I could not make any improvements so I kind of gave up on that.  The problem is that the phase that I describe, may or may not be at zoom level where I can make a useful target solution.  It also takes much longer.

 

Are trying to tell me that what I describe above should be normal?  That would be discouraging.

 

I have probably close to an equal number of hours just watching youtube videos.  I am trying to learn and to not be such a dork.  I have never once in all those videos seen an effect anything like what I see in my game.  Only thing that comes close is just the few moments immediately after a maverick release.  I like Hellreign82's skill level and his sense of humor.  And I like the "real feel" that RalfiDude puts in his mission videos.

 

Caldera

 

[Taz1004]

1 minute ago, Caldera said:

Here is the thing.  If I delete the contents of the fxo file folder before the play session.  No issues.  None.  Nada.  Noxnee.  Works perfectly good all times, all altitudes, all attitudes, if I have no gymbal faults and the TGP is not masked.  I don't even think about it. 

 

 

You can just keep deleting it.  If you're okay with the loading time.  I can't deal with it every launch.

[Caldera]

I installed the autoexce.cfg file that you sent me.  I have no problems to date.  That in includes about a half dozen play sessions.

 

Caldera

[=Pedro=]

This is, what I've been looking for! Thanks Lads  S!

[SmirkingGerbil]

On 1/5/2021 at 6:28 PM, Caldera said:

Thanks,

 

 

Are trying to tell me that what I describe above should be normal?  That would be discouraging.

 

 

Caldera

 

No sir, it isn't normal.

When I fiddle with Gain etc. it is the exception, not the rule. An every now and again thing. I only nuke the FXO and Meta folder on updates, I don't delete them every start.

Honestly, I am flumoxed as to why you have this recurring issue. Possibly some other external factor like Nvidia settings?

Edited January 8, 2021 by SmirkingGerbil

[silverdevil]

18 hours ago, Caldera said:

I installed the autoexce.cfg file that you sent me.  I have no problems to date.  That in includes about a half dozen play sessions.

 

Caldera

@Caldera good to hear! TGP on F18, A-10C2, and F16 in my case, have no issues after the autoexec change.

Edited January 8, 2021 by silverdevil