Why is ACLS not working in some scenarios?

[Cato Larsen]

Hi.

 

 

I, or my group has been flying the F14B for a little while now. Through couple game updates.

ACLS is working fine in some missions, either setup in ME that I do or some of the official missions. Both SC and Stennis.

 

But some times it just dont work.

Procedure is followed to the point in all cases, and indicators are lighting up for acls activation.

 

What is causing this? Is it mission related? Carrier setup or something else?

 

I can land the plane manually on this setup of course, but it gets a bit hairy in case III situations, specially in fog and dark.

[Cato Larsen]

Hmm. I realised that this could really be in "Bugs and problems"

Sorry for that.

Admin can move it if more that is convenient. 

[Cato Larsen]

I guess no one knows then.

Cheers anyway.

[QuiGon]

Some things to check:

- ICLS and EPLRS activated and set to correct channel on the carrier (I'm not sure if this really makes a difference though)

- Wind & turbulances too strong?

[Cato Larsen]

Yes, all this is as should be. Radio protocol followed.

 

I got an idea and tried it in evening. Got called for Case I recovery. Acls did not work, flew around and did all checks again, it now turned dark enough so I got called for CASE III recovery, and what do you know, ACLS activated this time.

 

Is it so the system does NOT take control unless in a state of CASE III recovery?

 

[The_Tau]

It should say which mode it uses. Mode I is for auto land, Mode II is for flying the needles and Mode III is for pure verbal azimuth and glideslope information to the pilot.

 

Page 22 in SC manual.

 

But in instant mission I think it says Mode II and yet you can still activate autoland

Edited March 8, 2021 by The_Tau

[QuiGon]

3 hours ago, Cato Larsen said:

Yes, all this is as should be. Radio protocol followed.

 

I got an idea and tried it in evening. Got called for Case I recovery. Acls did not work, flew around and did all checks again, it now turned dark enough so I got called for CASE III recovery, and what do you know, ACLS activated this time.

 

Is it so the system does NOT take control unless in a state of CASE III recovery?

 

I don't think so, because I usually don't communicate with the carrier at all and yet my ACLS works pretty reliably.

[Cato Larsen]

And you can get ACLS to go fully automatic in clear weather, mid day as well as low wis or night?

[IronMike]

8 hours ago, Cato Larsen said:

And you can get ACLS to go fully automatic in clear weather, mid day as well as low wis or night?

 

If your ICLS is selected correctly and your datalink is set to the carrier, yes.

[QuiGon]

On 3/8/2021 at 4:20 PM, Cato Larsen said:

And you can get ACLS to go fully automatic in clear weather, mid day as well as low wis or night?

 

I've not used it very often, but when I did it worked.

[Cato Larsen]

On 3/9/2021 at 1:17 AM, IronMike said:

 

If your ICLS is selected correctly and your datalink is set to the carrier, yes.

Thanks for confirming.

I fail to see what I do different between my sessions though. But it must be pilot error. I find no evidence to the contrary.

Btw, this was with Super Carrier module.

 

Anyway. Thanks for replies the both of you.

28 minutes ago, QuiGon said:

 

I've not used it very often, but when I did it worked.

Me neighter, but practice in good weather for a rainy day later is always good. 

Flying ICLS is very doable without letting the system take full control, but I feel I need to get every aspect of flying this one just right.

[Slant]

On 3/9/2021 at 1:17 AM, IronMike said:

 

If your ICLS is selected correctly and your datalink is set to the carrier, yes.

 

Hi, can you confirm if it has been a bug in the past that is now fixed? For some reason in my group there is still the information that ACLS is bugged and shouldn't be used. I'm trying to gauge if that has been a myth from the start, if our information is outdated and we missed it being fixed or if there's an issue we need to explore to give you some feedback.

Edited March 10, 2021 by Slant

[sLYFa]

The ACLS provided glideslope is too shallow (something like 3° instead of 3.5° IIRC). ICLS gives correct indications though.

[Jayhawk1971]

My only problems with ACLS have been when I fail to get a working DL-connection with the carrier. For example in Mission 2 of the "F-14B Iron Heel Campaign".  Works fine in mission 4, though. 

 

If there is a valid DL, ACLS pretty much works ok (4 wire, seems that indeed the glidescope angle is too shallow).

 

At first I thought this might have been VAICOM-related, that Jester simply didn't understand the "link host" command. But it works in other missions, so could be a bug or an oversight in mission design?

 

 

 

[The_Tau]

So the datalink is the problem then. So thats not really F14 but Supercarrier issue, which also got troubles with like TACAN stopping to work or wrongly calibrated ACLS for F14. 

[ebabil]

is acls working with the default case 1 instant action mission?

[draconus]

On 7/3/2021 at 9:08 AM, ebabil said:

is acls working with the default case 1 instant action mission?

From the latest beta log: "Tweaked ACLS to better handle the carrier burble (further tweaking required)" so it might not work properly* yet.

*As in landing you safely which was not so reliable IRL as I heard.