Necksafer

[GPatricks]

9 minutes ago, NobiWan said:

Looks good to me. The remaining layer you marked yellow is the OpenXR toolkit layer which has nothing to do with XRNS.

So your uninstall went fine and you can reinstall the XRNeckSafer API Layer. Just make sure you restart Mixed Reality Portal after installation and of course don't forget to hit the "reset" button after game launch.

If you still want to delete the registry entries have a look here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Khronos\OpenXR\1\ApiLayers\Implicit

 

 

Hey @NobiWan, is it in the realm of possibility to add an "Up" function to the R\L of XRNS? I can look ~45 degrees up without strain, would be great to be able to add 25-35 degrees to that! Just a thought, thank you, love this app!

[NobiWan]

41 minutes ago, =LD=Icer said:

 

Hey @NobiWan, is it in the realm of possibility to add an "Up" function to the R\L of XRNS? I can look ~45 degrees up without strain, would be great to be able to add 25-35 degrees to that! Just a thought, thank you, love this app!

Yes, it's on the todo list. It may take some time though...

[horstweihrauch]

8 hours ago, NobiWan said:

Looks good to me. The remaining layer you marked yellow is the OpenXR toolkit layer which has nothing to do with XRNS.

So your uninstall went fine and you can reinstall the XRNeckSafer API Layer. Just make sure you restart Mixed Reality Portal after installation and of course don't forget to hit the "reset" button after game launch.

If you still want to delete the registry entries have a look here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Khronos\OpenXR\1\ApiLayers\Implicit

Oh, and alway use the zip file for installation! The master may contain experimental things that might  not work correctly at the moment...

 

Thank you so much. I was about to reinstall all the WMR/OpenXR stuff already. Read it just in time:)

And thanks for the Necksafer software. It's a gem.

[GPatricks]

XRNeckSafer Beta 2 with Autorotation Smoothing is out!!  

[Sr.]

Should this field be clickable?

I can see the API loaded, but still no joy in DCS.

 

[GPatricks]

XRNecksafer Beta 2b is out, fixes some glitches... https://gitlab.com/NobiWan/xrnecksafer

[Sr.]

7 hours ago, =LD=Icer said:

XRNecksafer Beta 2b is out, fixes some glitches... https://gitlab.com/NobiWan/xrnecksafer

Oops...I think it broke something.

 

 

[GPatricks]

That's a question for XRNS\ #support in the Discord. Me, my autorotation doesn't seem to actuate but snap view works fine..

 

[Sr.]

1 hour ago, =LD=Icer said:

That's a question for XRNS\ #support in the Discord. Me, my autorotation doesn't seem to actuate but snap view works fine..

 

I managed a rip and replace... still get nothing in DCS with the app running.

Used basically similar settings I had with the old NS, but still no help turning around.

 

 

 

Edit: Got it sorted. I DO like the new rotation smoothing effect. 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Sr.

[horstweihrauch]

1 hour ago, =LD=Icer said:

That's a question for XRNS\ #support in the Discord. Me, my autorotation doesn't seem to actuate but snap view works fine..

 

Can you please give the link to the discord? the link on the gitlab seems dead

[GPatricks]

https://discord.gg/9T27J6jF

[Slo-Mo]

20 hours ago, Sr. said:

Should this field be clickable?

I can see the API loaded, but still no joy in DCS.

 

NobiWan deactivated it because it's not working for everyone and it doesn't give more info than the OpenXR tools.

Cheers

[Sr.]

Still working for anyone? I haven't been able to get it to work again since a couple OpenComposite updates back.

[javelina1]

been working fine for me, though I don't use it that much while in the Apache.

[Sr.]

10 hours ago, javelina1 said:

been working fine for me, though I don't use it that much while in the Apache.

Got mine working again, but I have to re-run the PS script between game sessions..

[NobiWan]

XRNeckSafer Beta3 is out. : XRNeckSafer

 

Changelog for beta3:

• pitch axis added
• translation when rotated fixed
• GUI optimization
• options to disable GUI output and joystick auto reconnect to eliminate possible causes of stutter
• list of OpenXR API layers reenabled

Cheers,

 NobiWan

 

[NobiWan]

Hotfix Beta3b: https://gitlab.com/NobiWan/xrnecksafer/

- fix for stepwise down values not editable

if you installed Beta3 already you can just replace the XRNeckSaferApp.exe.

Sorry for the inconvenience...

NobiWan

 

[dock999]

thank you so much for improving the program .  Cannot have a DCS- fly without the piece of program now.

still use the stepwise method .  have tried the smooth method and found the viewing angle was not enough  .I may just require to spend some time to test different numbers.

[Eldur]

Any chance of adding the possibility to simply use keyboard keys instead of just buttons on HOTAS? I still have some free cursor keys just right there, but no space left on various HOTAS mappings... would be awesome!

[Kirk66]

I use VRNecksafer with my Rift S in IL-2 GB with no issues (start Steam VR - which starts Oculus, then start VRNS, then start IL-2 in VR, and VRNS works fine). However, when I try to use VRNS in DCS, I cannot get it to work.

Is there a trick to running non-Steam DCS Beta with Steam VR? 

Any help would be appreciated; I really like VRNS and want to see it work in DCS badly!

Cheers,

Vulture

Edit: Problem solved via Skatezilla's app. Works great now. And a comment for the "purists" who think it's cheating in VR: In a real cockpit, you can grab something and turn around to check six; some planes have handles on the canopy bow just for this (F-15s. for example, the E even has a huge grab handle across the top of the WSO panel!). Makes a huge difference (Source: BTDT IRL). Also, VR FOV limits. So if you have a full up simpit, sure, it's a bit of a cheat, but still nowhere near as bogus as a headtracker on a single screen - that's just plain wrong!

Vulture

Edited September 6, 2022 by Kirk66
Follow up

[Lt_Jaeger]

I started to use the XRNS Version and everything works fine. There are just two things that bug me

 

a) I'm unable to bind ENTER as reset (it is my center VR button in DCS)

b) did not find a way to turn XRNS on and off in flight. There are flight regimes (e.g. carrier ops with a bunch of planes in the pattern) where I don't deem the functionality helpful but rather bothering.

 

Especially b) would be a biggie for me. Any ways to achieve this?

 

 

[NobiWan]

17 hours ago, Lt_Jaeger said:

I started to use the XRNS Version and everything works fine. There are just two things that bug me

 

a) I'm unable to bind ENTER as reset (it is my center VR button in DCS)

b) did not find a way to turn XRNS on and off in flight. There are flight regimes (e.g. carrier ops with a bunch of planes in the pattern) where I don't deem the functionality helpful but rather bothering.

 

Especially b) would be a biggie for me. Any ways to achieve this?

 

 

For b) you can use the "hold" button. Check "toggle" to give it an on/off functionality.

Btw, beta4 was just released.

[Lt_Jaeger]

6 hours ago, NobiWan said:

For b) you can use the "hold" button. Check "toggle" to give it an on/off functionality.

Btw, beta4 was just released.

Darn, that was easy , thank you. I just bound the hold to my ghetto cat left panel SAS Roll, so necksaver turns on in the dogfight and remains off in normal flight regimes....love it, thank you

 

[M1Combat]

"And a comment for the "purists" who think it's cheating in VR:"

The entire argument makes no sense.  Not even sure why it's worth a comment...

 

The 2D folks get snap views...  Everyone who uses TiR runs curves...

I think someone was trolling you and poked you in a soft spot maybe?  Don't worry about it :)...

[javelina1]

4 hours ago, M1Combat said:

"And a comment for the "purists" who think it's cheating in VR:"

The entire argument makes no sense.  Not even sure why it's worth a comment...

 

The 2D folks get snap views...  Everyone who uses TiR runs curves...

I think someone was trolling you and poked you in a soft spot maybe?  Don't worry about it :)...

^^^ THIS!