Hoirtel Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Seems there is a new Nvidia driver that is supposed to fix several VR issues (465.89), I can say my experience seems to be very positive in DCS VR and I notice its seems much smoother now. I also saw that with this new release, for another sim, people are recommending to now have hardware accelerated GPU scheduling on and also windows game mode on. I haven't yet fully tested this but at the weekend I did mess around with the other sim, switch these on, didn't get that much better performance. However when I ran DCS I seemed to get very good frame rates. Getting full unprojected fps while looking into (down) the F18 cockpit, about 20K over Syria. I haven't ever had that. I thought it was all the driver then I realised that I had not switched these off... I need to do some proper testing when I get time, but thought I see if anyone else has experienced anything similar with any of the above.
Gryzor Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Really? could be possible to post some fps comparison with HAGS ON vs OFF with 465.89? thanks
Robi Hobby Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 I also installed the driver and was pleasantly surprised. Before I installed it, I started DCS. A-10CII on Syria quick start, cold start. 23-30 fps on the ground. Better in flight up to 40 fps. With the new drivers I have almost 40 fps on the ground and in the air it was briefly more than 40 fps i7 7700k RTX2070 32GB RAM VR RiftS 1
FoxTwo Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 HAGS still causes significant frame rate inconsistency for me, wouldn't recommend it.
Hoirtel Posted April 6, 2021 Author Posted April 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, FoxTwo said: HAGS still causes significant frame rate inconsistency for me, wouldn't recommend it. I plan to do some testing, I won't be able to spend much time on it and its unlikely to be fully conclusive so good to get others feedback. You are on 465.89? 14 minutes ago, Robi Hobby said: I also installed the driver and was pleasantly surprised. Before I installed it, I started DCS. A-10CII on Syria quick start, cold start. 23-30 fps on the ground. Better in flight up to 40 fps. With the new drivers I have almost 40 fps on the ground and in the air it was briefly more than 40 fps i7 7700k RTX2070 32GB RAM VR RiftS I take it this is new drivers alone, no other changes. It sounds like the driver could be a great improvement.
Lange_666 Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 People, that's all pretty useless info if you don't post a bit detailed specs along with it. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Hoirtel Posted April 6, 2021 Author Posted April 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, Lange_666 said: People, that's all pretty useless info if you don't post a bit detailed specs along with it. I haven't done testing. It's gaining other peoples experience as I'm sure lots of people will have updated. My PC specs are irrelavent.
Gryzor Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 I will be very interesting to see some fps comparison with HAGS ON/OFF, and with the previous drivers. Please somebody could post some driver comparison between?
Lange_666 Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Hoirtel said: I haven't done testing. It's gaining other peoples experience as I'm sure lots of people will have updated. My PC specs are irrelavent. I was not talking about YOU but in general. And in test like this specs are relevant. Not everything, i'm not interrested in your pink PC case but the type of graphics card (1xxx, 20xx,30xx), CPU and RAM are important. Otherwise it's just useless. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Hoirtel Posted April 7, 2021 Author Posted April 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Lange_666 said: I was not talking about YOU but in general. And in test like this specs are relevant. Not everything, i'm not interrested in your pink PC case but the type of graphics card (1xxx, 20xx,30xx), CPU and RAM are important. Otherwise it's just useless. Its not meant to be a fps comparison thread. If people have done testing with before and after then fps or frametimes are helpful (% uplift would be even better). I'm really just after shared experiences to see if people are seeing change rather than anything else. As covered on many other performance threads so many people use the game differently is too difficult to compare fps accurately across systems.
Lange_666 Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 I'm not looking at FPS numbers either (i cap mine so i don't bother at anything higher then that, as long i can keep the capnumber up). I just wonder what the effect is on different GPU cards. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Eldur Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) Where can I actually get those? Their drivers seem to be about as available as their cards are... (not just the file size, I can't DL the thing, it's deadlinked) Edited April 7, 2021 by Eldur
Lange_666 Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-465-89-whql-driver-download.html 1 Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
pete_auau Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) was going to update to this but found out that users that have were unable to start pd3d https://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6312&t=141826 (yes i know its a different sim but for those that arent aware of it mite be usueful to know) Edited April 7, 2021 by pete_auau
Hoirtel Posted April 7, 2021 Author Posted April 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Eldur said: Where can I actually get those? Their drivers seem to be about as available as their cards are... (not just the file size, I can't DL the thing, it's deadlinked) I have Nvidia GeForce experience installed so it will do the driver updates on request - also has the option for clean install which is useful.
Burt Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 dang I just updated a few days ago and now another ones out. If it helps the VR scene Im in ! ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Gryzor Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 Any other feedback about this driver and HAGS please?
Burt Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 No problems with so ever with this driver. ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
some1 Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 My experience with HAGS is that it broke WMR automatic reprojection. Did not test with the latest driver. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Hoirtel Posted April 11, 2021 Author Posted April 11, 2021 I've not done any proper fps comparison but I think this driver is good. HAGs doesn't seem to make a difference so I've left it off for now.
Burt Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) Tested HAGS with my system and this new driver and got alot of stutters so I disabled it again. Does not work for me. Edited April 12, 2021 by Burt 1 ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Gryzor Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 Tested with HAGS ON, some purple spikes and framedrops. 1
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