correct as is HARM pullback OVRD status in A/A master mode not consistent with other modes.

[oldcrusty]

With HARM in SP mode and the pullback OVRD option boxed in NAV or A/G master modes, it shows unboxed in A/A master mode.

It stays unboxed regardless of the selection in other master modes.

Also, when in A/A master mode, it is not currently possible to change the status of HARM PLBK OVRD.

 

OVRD.trk

[BIGNEWY]

reported

 

thank you

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

 

I have checked with the team, this is correct as is. 

 

If A/A Master mode is selected and SP pullback is enabled HRM OVRD is deselected

 

If A/A master mode is deselected HRM OVRD is set to the last condition it was in when in A/G mode.

 

thanks 

[oldcrusty]

OK, thanks.

Now that I thought about it... It creates no problems either way, since no displays are changed when PBLK condition kicks in and A/A mode is not effected in any way.

[Mario.]

EDIT: Possibly not an issue as it was pointed out to me the trigger vs weapons release in this post. If not a bug please delete this post and sorry for wasting your time lol.

 

 

 

When in AA mode on the stores page you can't box the override mode for the AGM-88. For example when I'm in a mission with a cap loadout of 6 AIM-120's and 2 AGM-88's, if I get locked by an SA-5 from 70+ NM while also having an enemy jet close that I need to shoot an AIM-120 at I'm forced to shoot off the AGM-88's outside its respective range before I can engage the air target because I can't box the HARM override. This has been an issue for some time and looking today I couldn't find a report on this issue. I can only assume this is a bug as it works fine in AG mode (shown in track) where I can override the HARM to release other weapons but I can't in AA mode.

The track file attached was done in the AGM-88 weapons practice mission in single player on the Caucasus map specifically to keep the track short. However I have tested this on Syria and Persian Gulf both in single and multiplayer. Also I performed a repair just before to make sure that there were no issues with my install.

Specs - Mobo Z690 Gaming X - DDR4 32 GBytes - Intel I5 13600K - RTX 2070 Super - Samsung 2TB M.2

AA-HARM-NoOverride.trk

Edited December 23, 2023 by Mario.

[Tholozor]

In A/A Master Mode, HRM OVRD is automatically unboxed since, as you mentioned, the trigger is reserved for A/A weapons. This is by-design so the pilot can utilize Self-Protect mode without having to switch to A/G Master Mode.

[MarcT-NL]

Yeah, but this is still annoying if you have a 2-stage trigger, and you have Weapon release on the first detend and "Gun-trigger" on the second.

Then you can't fire youtr AIM120's if there's a SAM painting you.

This wasn't allways like this. Just since 1 or 2 updates...

[Harker]

Yeah, but this is still annoying if you have a 2-stage trigger, and you have Weapon release on the first detend and "Gun-trigger" on the second.
Then you can't fire youtr AIM120's if there's a SAM painting you.
This wasn't allways like this. Just since 1 or 2 updates...

The feature works as in the real jet. When you are in A/A, are carrying a HARM, and being locked by a surface to air system, the weapons release button is always hot with a HARM in Pullback.

I suggest binding the trigger and the weapons release button on different buttons, so this isn't a problem anymore. The same situation can arise when you are in A/G mode, with a weapon selected and the gun hot as well.

[Tholozor]

It's also been this way for a long time: 

 

[Foka]

13 hours ago, MarcT-NL said:

Yeah, but this is still annoying if you have a 2-stage trigger, and you have Weapon release on the first detend and "Gun-trigger" on the second.

Then you can't fire youtr AIM120's if there's a SAM painting you.

This wasn't allways like this. Just since 1 or 2 updates...

You have your binding messed up.

Weapon release is not "first detent", it's the big red button on top of the stick - thumb pressed.

First stage trigger in our Hornet is not used to anything.

[MarcT-NL]

Right. Luckyly I still had a button available on my stick.

GFD, this will take some time getting used to !