correct as is Grenade launcher and 12.7mm firing at the same time

[jubuttib]

When using the preset loadout that includes 4xATGM, 2x grenade launcher gunpods and 2x 12.7mm+7.62mm gunpods, the grenade launchers always fire together with the 12.7mm guns. This happens when the weapon selector is set to grenade launcher only (GM-30 I believe), 12.7+7.62, or 12.7 only. Only the 7.62 can be fired separately.

 

Youtube video included:

 

[SnuggleFairy]

That's not a legal loadout. Look at what the text says - 2x GUV-1 |Gun 12.7 +2x7.62 +4 ATGMs... You must have edited this loadout

[jubuttib]

If I have, I have no recollection of it, I know you're not supposed to touch them. I'm also pretty sure this at least used to be a loadout earlier in the early access, and I even remember it working properly.

 

Is there a way I can remove edited loadouts, and restore original ones?

 

Also there is at least one easy to find picture of a Hind with this gunpod loadout online:

 

Edited August 21, 2021 by jubuttib

[AeriaGloria]

The thing is you would have to figure out if that’s an export model or not. Export models could use UPK-23, I’m sure there’s some combos they can use that the Russians don’t.

 

Not to mention if it is a Russian model it could be an air show load out, placed on the pylons but non functional for display reasons

Edited August 22, 2021 by AeriaGloria

[BIGNEWY]

for our version you should only use the default loadouts, anything else will create problems. 

 

Thanks

[71st_Mastiff]

this is a default version, I have used it in the default instant mission, Syrian target practice range. its one of the default load outs.

 

and all guns fire at the same time when only grenade launcher and 7.62 mmm is on the GM-30mm launcher toggle. 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2021 by 71st_Mastiff

[Ramsay]

1 hour ago, 71st_Mastiff said:

this is a default version, I have used it in the default instant mission, Syrian target practice range. its one of the default load outs.

 

 

As SnuggleFairy said, it is NOT the default loadout, this is what the default looks like.

 

 

Your version has added the GUV-1 AP30 to stations 2 + 5.

 

If still uncertain you've edited the default loadout, you can remove any customisations by deleting

 

• Saved Games\DCS\MissionEditor\UnitPayloads\Mi-24P.lua

 

(only created/exists for user loadouts and edits)

 

 

On 8/22/2021 at 12:12 AM, jubuttib said:

I'm also pretty sure this at least used to be a loadout earlier in the early access, and I even remember it working properly.

 

There's a similar default loadout with 4x GUV-1 AP30 + 4x ATGM, perhaps you're thinking of that one ?

Edited August 24, 2021 by Ramsay
Add how to remove user edits to default loadouts

[71st_Mastiff]

really try this instant mission and this is loaded, even though when I click on it it tells me ATGM but there is none on it. but 2 pods. with outside grenade launcher and 7.62x12.7

 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2021 by 71st_Mastiff

[Ramsay]

1 hour ago, 71st_Mastiff said:

really try this instant mission and this is loaded, even though when I click on it it tells me ATGM but there is none on it. but 2 pods. with outside grenade launcher and 7.62x12.7

 

Yeah, I see the same (Grenade + 12.7 fire together).

 

AFAIK mission loadouts are saved with mission file, so

 

• Instant Action>Mi-24P>Syria>Weapons Range

 

... was created with a incorrect loadout or (more likely ?) loadouts and the weapons system are still WIP.

 

Tested DCS Open Beta 2.7.5.10869

• DCS World\Mods\aircraft\Mi-24P\Missions\QuickStart\Mi-24P_SYR_IA_Weapons_Range.miz, 11/08/2021, 4,564 KB

[randomTOTEN]

I initially suspected the AG-30 and 12.7 used the same fire signal (hence the mounting restrictions), so I tried to misconfigure the Mi-8MTV2 weapons and tell it all GUV's were Grenade launchers. It still only launched the Grenades, and didn't fire the 12.7mm guns. So I don't think they're using the same fire control signal.

 

My Syria target range mission also had GUV 622/624 + AG30 pods, and the AG30 and 12.7 fire together. You can tell this is the intended loadout because the on screen message and dialog both tell you which pods are loaded.

 

I suspect we're missing the ability to differentiate between 12.7/AG30 and hopefully it will come later in early access...

Edited August 24, 2021 by randomTOTEN

[AeriaGloria]

That missions has had lots of invalid load outs in the past, like two different rockets loaded at once, I thought it was all fixed but I guess just rockets 

[jubuttib]

Welp, thanks for the feedback and checks everyone, much appreciated. I'm still hoping it'll eventually be an allowed loadout, it's a really fun layout, but if our model never supported it then that's fine too.

 

EDIT: The fact that the Syria mission has that loadout makes me think I'm not 100% crazy for thinking it used to be an allowed loadout at some point (maybe right after early access started, before any updates?)

Edited August 31, 2021 by jubuttib