Coherent ground unit organization and placement for CA and AI ground units in DCS

[DmitriKozlowsky]

Organization of ground units based on proper military Order Of Battle.

Infantry squad, platoons, companies, Combat Team, battalion, Task Force .

Armor platoon, company, battalion, Team (inf + arm company), armored cav platoons, troop, squadron, 

Field artillery platoon, battery, BN Fires element. Add towed artillery and heavy mounted-towed mortars.

Detachment for custom and spec-ops.

 

 

[Callsign112]

+1 Don't get me started!

Edited September 23, 2021 by Callsign112

[Kang]

In other words: add more appropriate templates?

[DmitriKozlowsky]

10 hours ago, Kang said:

In other words: add more appropriate templates?

No not just templates. RIght now we have a icon for every individual personell and vehicle. That needs to be replaced by unit. A user places tank armored cav troop, not 16 tanks. SIngle icon for infantry company, not 80-100 inf. icons.

[DmitriKozlowsky]

On 9/23/2021 at 2:35 PM, Callsign112 said:

+1 Don't get me started!

 

I beg to differ. Lets get you started.

[Furiz]

14 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

No not just templates. RIght now we have a icon for every individual personell and vehicle. That needs to be replaced by unit. A user places tank armored cav troop, not 16 tanks. SIngle icon for infantry company, not 80-100 inf. icons.

 

Yea but how can you then adjust individuals?

[Tank50us]

4 hours ago, Furiz said:

 

Yea but how can you then adjust individuals?

 

Same way you can adjust the trains, and then adjust the load out screen to make adjustments to each member of the group.

[Northstar98]

8 hours ago, Furiz said:

Yea but how can you then adjust individuals?

 

Personally the better solution would be to have individual icons when zoomed in, and when you zoom out instead of having a tight cluster of icons, it would be replaced by a suitable icon representing the group.

 

For instance, let's say I set up an infantry platoon with the units as part of the same group, when zoomed in, so all of the icons are clearly separated they would display and icon over each individual unit (like it does now), but when I zoom out, and the icons become clustered together, it would show this, placed over the average position of the units in the group:

 

Another way is to simply have a view setting such as "show grouped icons".

 

Another thing that kinda relates here, would be the ability to optionally define waypoints for each individual unit of a group.

 

As an example, let's say that we have a group of units, with a set of waypoints. We would have an advanced waypoint action, something like Perform Command -> Unit following own waypoints, and we could define which unit we want to separate off and follow their own waypoints.

 

We would then have a "perform command -> form up", which would stop the unit from following it's waypoints, and it would instead navigate to whatever waypoint the group is currently on, and reform the formation.

 

The other thing that might be useful is dynamic grouping and ungrouping of units, as well as a box select tool.

Edited September 25, 2021 by Northstar98

[Tippis]

This sounds like it's all about the icons and map spam.

 

That's not really all that much of an issue because DCS doesn't quite support enough active units to really warrant any of the larger unit groupings, especially not if you want both sides to have them.

 

No, the thing that would massively improve the game (and coincidentally also get rid of the icon spam) is if this was an AI change. If en entire company could be treated as a single AI actor, and when (and only when) suitably decimated, it would split into individual platoon actors. Individual ground units acting as their own AI agent would be the very last step after a whole lot of shooting.