reported earlier Aircraft nav lights unrealistic

[hazzer]

Hello, 

 

I'm sure you are aware that the lighting in DCS is flawed at best. There are some aircraft which have awfully unrealistic and frankly ridiculous lighting issues that have been around for far too long. 

 

Namely, the F-18 is the biggest offender. With orb like nav lights from a distance brighter than the sun.

[Dunx]

Agree, sad they have been neglected for so long and ridiculed by so many.

[Exorcet]

The Hornet is one of the planes with good lights. You can actually see them from a distance instead of them disappearing arbitrarily. We need more planes like the Hornet.

[sirrah]

The issue with the extreme light bloom on the Hornet, has been reported multiple times now and has been tagged "reported" by @BIGNEWY here:

 

 

 

and here:

 

 

By the lack of complaints/reports and the fact that this bug hasn't been squashed 11 months after the initial report (november 2020), it seems that most people aren't really bothered by this. For me it kinda kills flying at night in the Hornet..

 

Maybe these awful glowing orbs are only visible to some of us? (only in VR perhaps?)

I mean, the fact that @Exorcet is saying that the Hornet nav lights look realistic, surely he sees something better than what I see:

 

 

 

 

The above effect is by the way not enhanced by the NVG. When I take off the NVG the orbs are just as big, but I enabled NVG to get a better screenshot showing the issue (taking a screenshot at night without NVG would only show a black screen with a light, without the perspective of distance)

[oldcrusty]

1 hour ago, Exorcet said:

The Hornet is one of the planes with good lights. You can actually see them from a distance instead of them disappearing arbitrarily. We need more planes like the Hornet.

 

When you're right next to it, maybe. When you increase the distance the lights get smaller but the freaken glow stays the same size before blending into a blob.

In my opinion, it should look like one of the brightest stars on a moonless night, perhaps bit brighter, right on top of (or next to) a blinking red colored star (military beacon), moving through the sky... no damn glow. As you get close, you should see some distance between these two. Within .3 or .4 nm, the position lights 'pixels' should perhaps be distinguishable. Yea, a little glow maybe around them and the beacon. 

[hazzer]

Lighting has plenty of issues in dcs that needs resolving. As said it all looks rather poor in VR. 

 

F18 orb like position lights from a distance - at night from a distance they should be visible, not massively visible like they are now.

 

Lights are too visible in the daytime, landing lights shouldn't be illuminating the ground on a bright sunny day. You should be able to see that the nav lights are turned on but nothing so dramatic. 

 

Some of the lights have pop in - specifically the p51 has had this since it came out... 

[Exorcet]

I'm not using VR, this is what I'm seeing, with a quick comparison with a random Youtube video, Hornets approaching a carrier:

 

 

My primary concern is seeing the lights from a distance because most lights just vanish from relatively nearby.

[M1Combat]

Why would you turn those on unless another pilot asked you to show your location and you didn't want to flare or something??  Just for the sake of procedure and/or realism?  I mean that's fine :)...  I'm not trying to say that's an invalid reason...  But I never turn lights on...  I also don't concern myself with what real pilots do unless it helps me kill other virtual targets :).

[sirrah]

6 hours ago, Exorcet said:

I'm not using VR, ...

On 2D screens, there is probably no issue, but in VR or looks absurd.

 

With DCS' current lighting system, ED maybe optimized the Hornet nav lights for 2D users. I suspect that if they were to now optimize it for VR, it would probably cause problems in 2D.

 

As @hazzer said, there's still much to improve in terms of lighting. Perhaps that's the reason why the glowing UFO orbs are still here in VR.

[BIGNEWY]

Bloom lights on the hornet have been reported and another report for VR also is open. I dont have any news to share currently. 

 

thanks

[sirrah]

5 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Bloom lights on the hornet have been reported and another report for VR also is open. I dont have any news to share currently. 

 

thanks

 

Thanks for letting us know it's still on the to do list BN 

[Elphaba]

So afaik the hornet 9s the only aircraft with such massive problems with its external lights. At any intensity they bloom so excessively that it’s like a neon Christmas tree and can really make the identification of it’s orientation almost impossible under certain conditions. 
 

they also go from completely unseen to flick immediately into over bloom instantly as the aircraft hits a certain point. 
 

this has been the situation for years, so when are these going to get fixed because surely it can’t be a long or complicated bug to squash?

[BIGNEWY]

It is still on our list and my report is still open, I dont have any news currently however. 

thanks